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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:27 PM
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Re: Last Night's South Park -You've already seen it before...haven't you?
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 03:28 PM by ddeclue
Apparently based on what I've read on the net today many people were offended by last night's South Park episode...What else is new? After all isn't that the basic plotline of South Park anyways?

You know what I mean...

1) The Love Boat - Boy meets girl. Boy loses girl. Boy gets girl back again.

2) Fantasy Island - Boss..the plane the plane! Unhappy person comes to island with one fantasy leaves happier with a different dream.

3) Gilligan's Island - Something or someone new washes ashore offering hope of rescue - Gilligan screws it up. They must stay on the island.

4) The A-Team - Hopeless victims are victimized by powerful careless people - A Team shoots a lot of guns. No one dies. Bad guys give in. Army catches up to A-Team. A-Team flees.

5) Star Trek - Enterprise arrives at new planet,. Kirk beams down with security guards. Security guards are killed before first commercial break (never wear red if you're not Scotty). Kirk meets attractive female alien. Kirk scores with female alien. Spock and McCoy fight. Kirk resolves complicated social, moral or technical problem. Kirk leaves girl. Enterprise leaves orbit.

6) M*A*S*H - Choppers land bringing new wounded. Jokes are exchanged in surgery. Hawkeye puts the moves on the nurses. Wounded soldier has some social problem besides his wounds. Hawkeye and B.J. rail against problem while Burns and Houlihan are establishment stooges. Eventually problem is solved and the wounded are evacuated to 121st Evac Hospital.

7) Seinfeld - Seinfeld, George, Elaine and Kramer find bizarre new methods to try to get ahead in tiny little ways at the expense of each other and others around them.

8) Dukes of Hazzard - Boss Hogg does something to screw the Dukes. The Dukes drive fast and jump the General Lee across a ditch. Sheriff Coltrane's car wrecks in the ditch. Boss Hogg is caught red handed and makes things right with the Dukes.

9) Law and Order - Someone is murdered based on a recent real life news case. The details are translated into New York City locations and social situations. The cops suspect someone. When their original theory of the crime falls through they suspect someone else. They arrest that someone else. The D.A. offers a deal. The defendant refuses. There's a trial. The P.D. comes up with a bizarre theory of defense. It almost works. Another more lenient deal is offered and refused. The jury convicts the defendant. He gets 25 to life.

10) Friends: Ross wants Rachel. Rachel dates other guys. Ross and Rachel kiss. Ross and Rachel break up. Ross and Rachel date other people but want to get back together. Ross gets married. Ross gets divorced. Repeat as necessary.

11) MacGyver - MacGyver is trapped in an impossible life threatening situation - he builts unlikely device to escape using infeasible but available materials within arms reach in an impossibly short period of time. He escapes by closing credits. Repeat once per episode.

12) South Park - A recent news event is translated into an excuse to be offensive and insulting in bizarre surrealistic plots. Kenny Dies. Again. You Bastards! Famous people are belittled. Satan cheats with Saddam. Chef scores again. Cartman's mom is a ****. Taboo subjects and words are repeated hundreds of times in an obvious attempt to offend the audience and draw publicity. Offended people then complain on the internet. The end.

Doug D.
Orlando, FL


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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:34 PM
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1. If you think that's all there was to the original Star Trek, perhaps you've never
really watched it. Some of the most Kennedy liberal politics ever was found in that series.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:39 PM
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2. No I guarantee I've seen all 79 episodes ...and love them all...
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 03:48 PM by ddeclue
so don't get your undies in a bunch...

I have most of them either on VHS or DVD...

I love most of the shows I listed, in fact.

The point is that every show has plot devices and cliches and can be reduced to a humorous TV Guide "haiku" parody pretty much as described. Read the actual plot summaries in TV Guide sometimes..

Some are more formulaic than others - South Park and L&O are very predictable.


Doug D.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:41 PM
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5. If Star Trek was that simplistic, it never would've lasted all this time.
Hopefully, most shows are more than their blurbs in TV Guide. M*A*S*H is also multi-dimensional.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:43 PM
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7. Apparently my post has been moved by the moderators to the
humor-free zone....

Sorry nobody here has a sense of humor and can't take a joke about their favorite TV show... come on, even Shatner has parodied himself on SNL in the past...lighten up...

Doug D.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:45 PM
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9. That post's a joke? I thought you were trying to make some kind of point. NT
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:46 PM
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10. Yeah it's called "dont take South Park seriously"...
Doug D.
Orlando, FL
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:48 PM
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12. Yeah, the clue is that it's on Comedy Central.
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 03:49 PM by NYCGirl
If someone doesn't like it, I suggest they don't continue to watch it.

Edited to add: Personal response — I don't especially like South Park, so I don't watch it.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:55 PM
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13. Well I did see it last night while waiting for the Daily Show
but if you've watched it you know before you turn it on that they are trying to offend you so if you go in knowing this, then the joke ends up being on those people who don't know that and then freak out the next day over it.

Parker is just pushing people's buttons with this stuff to get rich so if you understand this then it's just like Madonna doing the same stuff in the 80's and 90's freaking out uptight parents and you just ignore Madonna and move on.

Doug D.
Orlando, FL



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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:57 PM
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14. Oh and Star Trek was not initially considered a "success"..
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 04:00 PM by ddeclue
it went off after 79 episodes and 3 years. It became successful as a "cult classic" in reruns afterwards.

Doug D.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:58 PM
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15. It wasn't a hit until it came back in syndication. NT
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:59 PM
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16. Didn't I just say that???
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 04:03 PM
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17. Yes, except that syndication and reruns are two different things. I'm in the
entertainment business, so I guess I'm a stickler for that sort of thing.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 04:05 PM
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18. I'm an engineer not an entertainment attorney dammit!
With apologies to Leonard McCoy...

:)
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 04:06 PM
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19. LOL!
:rofl:
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:40 PM
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3. What a boring life you must live
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:41 PM
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4. Why do you say that?
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:42 PM
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6. Because everything's obviously bland to you
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:45 PM
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8. Not at all.. nobody finds these funny?? Geez....
You people probably stand around a charatchurist saying things like "that's not a very realistic sketch"...

Doug D.
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 03:48 PM
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11. ah, I missed the gist of this
when I first saw it posted, it was in a typical 'GD' I'm offended by this thread, so I figured it was merely saying that all these shows sucked
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 04:13 PM
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20. I laughed
but then I have a messed up sense of humor sometimes.
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 05:21 PM
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21. Thanks n/t
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 07:24 PM
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22. #12 also sounds like one of Ann Coulter's articles or Britney Spear's antics...
:spray:
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 08:10 PM
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24. Ann Coulter is Matt Parker???
:rofl:
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 08:14 PM
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25. Too bad Ann Coulter didn't shave her head bald,
get a tatoo, and check into rehab...

:rofl:
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 08:02 PM
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23. LOL.
:thumbsup:
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 08:20 PM
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26. I don't think they're offensive just to be offensive
Is George Carlin offensive just for the sake of being offensive? Was Bill Hicks or Lenny Bruce?

I'm sure that there were people out there who were laughing along with Cartman when he was laughing at the "little person." I would like to think that there were more people laughing at Cartman because he's such a consistent unrepentant little racist bastard. Even his friends don't like him.

For me the laugh out loud moment was Randy on Wheel of Fortune. The clue was "Something that bothers you." The board was N_GGERS. The answer was naggers, of course but let's just say that Randy screwed it up. What was funny was the look on Randy's face when he realized what he had just done.

There was a nice Youtube reference when at school the next day, Cartman (of course) says he's watched it thirty times.

As far as the Jesse Jackson, Michael Richards, and Mark Furhman, I thought they mocked both sides fairly well. Jesse being so indignant that an apology wasn't good enough, Randy had to kiss his ass. Richards and Furhman being upset with being called racist while remaining completely clueless on how hateful the n-word is to African Americans.

And the message was whites, like Stan can and probably never will understand why (or even how) that word is hurtful. "I don't get it."

Brilliant episode.

But I have a weird sense of humor.

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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 08:26 PM
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27. Yeah but I give Carlin more credit than Parker and Stone..
and sorry but Hicks and Bruce are from before I was born and I'm 40 years old.

Carlin is far more insightful than Parker and Stone... They are very formulaic.. Indeed South Park is the Law and Order of being offensive under the guise of satire using obvious formula writing. You can see all the gags a mile away. To me, it's not about a message, they are shock artists like Madonna trying to sell something and make a quick buck.

Sometimes they are funny, often they are not - since I know they are shock artists, I don't let them bother me. If I do, then they've achieved their objective haven't they?

Doug D.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:10 PM
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28. Bill Hicks (1961-1994)
Before your time? Really?

Carlin is far more insightful any comedian alive so that's probably an unfair comparison.

To me, it's not about a message, they are shock artists like Madonna trying to sell something and make a quick buck.

If you say so. Most of the times they do have a message but sometimes a fart joke is just a fart joke.

If you don't like it, just don't watch it.

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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 10:13 PM
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29. Never heard of 'em...
Why should I have?

I didn't say I don't like it but it's not exactly "message laden"...it's juvenile humor just like Beavis and Butthead...

Doug D.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:16 PM
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30. We'll just have to agree to disagree
Edited on Thu Mar-08-07 11:19 PM by pokerfan
Why should I have?

If you like comedy. Denis Leary has made a career ripping off entire routines from a dead man.

SP contains lots of messages. Please name one single Beavis and Butthead message.

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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:26 PM
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31. Don't like Dennis Leary either...
Of course there's no B&B message - that's my point SP is not that much different than B&B.

Doug D.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 11:49 PM
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32. WE'LL JUST HAVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE
Okay?

I'll let you have the last f'ing word.

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