I am sooooooooooooooooooooo pissed at American Idol right now!!!

[Shell Beau]

[latebloomer]

1. Why?

:shrug:

[Shell Beau]

4. If you don't watch it, you wouldn't understand!

But a GREAT singer was let go over a shitty singer. Just pisses me off!

[Darth_Kitten]

6. Who was knocked off? Male/Female?

Who was good and who wasn't?

[Shell Beau]

8. A female named Sabrina! She sounded like Christina Aguleira to me!

In her place, a halfway decent singer stays!! The nudie, Antonella, left tonight though! So there is some hope I suppose!

[undeterred]

11. yeah, that was a bummer

[ronnykmarshall]

50. That SUCKED!

I'm glad it's now down to the final 12 and no more of this kick off two guys and two girls shit.

I don't see ONE guy that will make it to the final 6.

[latebloomer]

7. I watched the last part of last season

but not much this year.

My daughter watches it, but busy with homework tonight.

She can't believe Sabrina was voted off either. She wants to know who else?

[Shell Beau]

9. Antonella! That's for the girls!

[latebloomer]

10. Thanks!

:hi:

[Rabrrrrrr]

2. Me, too!

Why doesn't it just fucking die and, through its death, raise humanity's artistic quotient a half percent?

[suninvited]

3. And take Simon

with it !

[Rabrrrrrr]

17. No, Simon is the only honest one who's willing to fight our culture of mediocrity

I mean, yeah, he's part of the system by being with American Idol, which is a celebration of fakery and mediocrity - but even within that system, Simon at least has some integrity and is willing to stand up for at least some modicum of artistry.

[Shell Beau]

18. He pretty much says what we all think, mean or not!

[suninvited]

20. Okay, I have to agree with you there

he calls a spade, a spade

but, he has bad manners for the most part, and an ego that would fill Yankee Staduim twice over.

I guess I like Paula's style a bit more. "You didnt sing very well, but you sure look fantastic!!"

I was from the if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all era, I guess.

[Rabrrrrrr]

21. These people supposedly want to be professional artists - if they can't take it,

then they don't deserve it.

Unfortunately, in America's mediocrity-addicted society, being a pop star (engineered and commodified by corporations, with far more value placed on breasts and/or sideburns and clothing than on actual artistic talent) is seeing as being a "professional", instead of a ludicrous self-parody designed to make money for its owners.

Also, unfortunately in America's mediocrity-addicted society, and one which celebrates poor performance with kudos, trophies, and stars in order that the person isn't made to "feel bad" for performing poorly, we have the problem in which "awesome" or "excellent" or "unique" isn't good enough; it's all been dumbed down so that it has to be "really truly unique" and "super bitchin' awesome". And in the same vein, that which would earn a grade of "D" is now "wonderful", and the kids whose soccer team came in 28th place in a league o 29 still get trophies and awards of merit, and so someone shows up on American Idol who can't sing for shit, Simon tells the person they cn't sing for shit, Paula says "Maybe could have been better, but you did well, you tried, you look good" and America goes home and hates Simon, when they should be hating Paula (and themselves) for accepting shit as A-level work.

[suninvited]

25. Nobody says A-level to those who cant sing on American Idol

Even Randy has been saying "Dude, it wasnt that good for me".

What is wrong with saying " Maybe could have been better, but you did well, you tried, you look good" ? Paula doesnt say "that was great", to someone who sucked, but she still doesnt feel the need to make them feel like a total fool.

I dont know, maybe I am just too concerned with feelings. We all have them, we dont want them trampled all over.

I have had to fire people many times in the past years, and I always manage to point out their strong points during their exit interview (as it were), so they could build on that, even when I had to point out the things that really sucked about them.

Maybe I am just too darn sensitive for the whole American Idol thing.

[Rabrrrrrr]

27. Sure they do - the whole fucking thing is geared to give a contract

to a C-level "performer". They aren't singers - these are people who are seen as being marketable.

They'll fix pitches and intonation and other singing problems in the studio, and in concert they'll sing with a tape that the sound guy will punch in whenever the singer starts going off key.

The whole problem with "Maybe could have been better, but you did well, you tried, you look good" is that it supports mediocrity. It doesn't say "Wow - you need about 1000 hours more practice before you're ready; either practice more or give it up".

Just like giving trophies to ALL the kids in the soccer league so that no one's fucking feelings get hurt.

Bullshit.

And a lot of those people who get creamed by Simon on the show DESERVED it. If their friends and families hadn't been addicted to mediocrity, they would never have been telling the jackoffs that they sing just fine; they would have spoken the truth. And if the friends and family HAD been telling the jackoffs that they suck, but the jackoff refused to listen, then they need to hear the truth from a professional as well.

I'm amazed at the number of people who are clearly inept, totally and utterly incapable of singing (even beyond the average American Idol's contestant inability to sing) who are told they suck on the show, during the auditions, but who counter back with "Well, my family doesn't think so!" or tell the American Idol judges that they don't know what the hell they are talking about. WHile agree that they often don't know what the hell they are talking, if even those three clueless fucking bozos think that a singer sucks, then rest assured - that singer sucks.

Fuck feelings when people are clearly inept and living a lie because they're willing to accept C- and D- level performance as "really awesome!" or "totally unique!"

[Shell Beau]

29. There are 3 different judges for reasons.

Randy usually says what he feels. Simon puts it out there in a way that seems ugly but we all understand and have thought. Paula wants to make up for it by bringing out the positives.

But, I don't think we have a C-level performer. We have people desparate to get noticed and this is their ticket. And in all fairness, it takes a lot to actually get where these people got. Kelly Clarkson isn't a C-level performer, IMO. Now she was the 1st season (which was still trial and she was by far the only one with talent), but I think everyone in the beginning of their careers is willing to do what it takes.

But still, the point is that Simon is almost always on target as ugly as it sounds. That is the "real world" of the entertainment industry, and that is what these kids would here in the real setting!

[Rabrrrrrr]

30. Compare them to real singers, though, and they are C-level.

I've not heard any of them that could hold a candle even to some of the students I've heard at Julliard and Manhattan School of Music and Columbia and the Eastman School, to say nothing of true professional, trained singers.

And American Idol jackoffs aren't even looking to be singers, they're looking to be performers.

[Shell Beau]

32. I think Melinda and Lakisha would compare!

Certainly not the rest, but that is hopefully the point of AI, to weed out the wannabe's!

[ronnykmarshall]

51. Lakisha's gonna win it.

She's my fave!

[begin_within]

28. How ironic that the man who inflicted the Spice Girls on the world would be fighting mediocrity.

[Rabrrrrrr]

33. Amazing, isn't it? It's like when Pat Robertson thinks someone is too racist -

you just gotta listen to him and believe it.

Or like the joke back before the Iraq war - "Jesus, if GERMANY says going to war is a bad idea... maybe you ought to listen to them".

[Shell Beau]

34. But he knows what will sell!

And the spice girls did, for a while anyway!

[begin_within]

37. You're right, but...

[MonkeyFunk]

38. Actually

Simon turned DOWN the Spice Girls. One of the big business mistakes of his career.

Simon Fuller managed the Spice Girls, not Simon Cowell.

[begin_within]

42. Oops

[fudge stripe cookays]

5. You bring the anvil, I'll bring the rope.

I have never seen an episode of this IQ dropper, and never intend to.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

49. A-fucking-men.

What a commerical travesty that cesspool of a "show" is.

:puke:

[Shell Beau]

12. NOT AGAIN!!!! Sundance went home over SANJAYA!!!!????!!!!

WTF??????????????????????????????

[gbate]

14. Sundance had potential. This was a big mistake.

[Mike Daniels]

19. What do you expect when teeny-boppers vote 10 times for other people's 1 vote

My wife who loathes the show has watched a few minutes here and there as a bonding moment.

She nailed it when she attributed teen-age girls for the reason Sundance went home and the other guy held on. I basically thought also that the other guy picked a contemporary hit that appeals more to the majority audience than Pearl Jam's Jeremy did.

[BlackVelvet04]

23. It's not just the teeny boppers.....

it's the Vote for the Worst assholes.

[Mike Daniels]

24. I initially gave VFTW some credit for keeping the thugish Scot Savol alive a couple of years back

but when you think of it, who's really more motivated to vote multiple times?

Someone who just wants to fuck with the system or the fan who really wants to see their favorite singer advance through the next round?

As much as some contestants are freaking jokes, I just can't see dropping more cash than one call's worth of money just to advance some joker who is notably inferior to other contestants.

[Shell Beau]

36. That isn't true!

Carrie Underwood has been very gracious! And I will say the same for Kelly Clarkson, though she is ready to move on which I understand!

[El Fuego]

46. Exactly. Little kids will vote all night.

I vote once or twice and then forget about it.

That's why we're stuck with Sanjaya. :(

[ronnykmarshall]

52. Hey Randi's pissed about this too.

I'm listening to her and she's dis'n on him.

[kimsterdemster]

13. I know...

watching Idol isn't popular with DU folks, but I like to karaoke and enjoy the show.

Sundance to me was the best male singer, and Sanjaya was the worst, I cried (PMS). SOOOOOOOOOOOO glad Antonella is gone.

[femmocrat]

15. I'm shocked. Shocked.

I thought Sanjaya and Haley would be the other two to go.... NOT Sabrina (who I liked) and Sundance (who I didn't, but he could sing at least).

I wonder if that "vote for the worst" crowd influenced the vote very much? Makes no sense otherwise.

Good riddance to Barbarella, though!

[Shell Beau]

16. It just pisses me off!

I don't vote so I can't be too pissed, but dammit! x(

[BlackVelvet04]

22. It's the

Vote for the Worst assholes. They now intend to see how far they can get Sanjaya.

[cmkramer]

41. He wasn't their boy

Actually, they were rooting for Sundance and Antonella. Last year, their guy was Taylor Hicks.

[LostInAnomie]

26. Sundance's poor choice of song is what kicked him off.

"Jeremy" is a good song but it is not right for American Idol. It doesn't showcase vocal talents, it doesn't rhyme, and it doesn't have a traditionally catchy chorus. The average American Idol viewer is just going to tune it out. He should have known better.

That being said, I don't think he would have went very far in the finals anyway.

[Shell Beau]

31. On that same note, was Blake's choice of song right for

American Idol? I don't think it mattered what Sundance sang, the teeny-boppers of America still would have chosen Sunjaya, imo.

[Danger Mouse]

35. The American people have spoken. The American people are fucking morons.

Did you expect any less?

[MonkeyFunk]

39. I'm fine with all the votes tonight....

Sabrina was better than some of the others, but it's not like it made a difference - she wasn't gonna win.

Same for Sundance - the ONLY guy with any hope of getting far is Blake.

But it's all Melinda and Lakisha, and maybe a surprise from Gina. But I suspect there will be no men in the top 3.

[Random_Australian]

40. Ha! I didn't notice anyone drinking in the crowd, but it doesn't suprise me.

:)

[AngryOldDem]

43. This has GOT to be the worst crop of "AI" talent ever.

And PULEEZE....make ANY Stevie Wonder song OFF LIMITS to these people. PLEASE!

Sundance getting booted makes absolutely NO sense.

[Efilroft Sul]

48. Sundance picked songs that weren't good fits for him.

Two out of three weeks, at least.

I'm not saying he's a bad singer, but he made bad decisions that cost him, and he lost out to Mowgli and all his teenybopper power callers. Sundance should have stuck with what brought him to the dance.

Still, now that theme weeks are coming up, he would've been doomed anyway. Can you say "ABBA week?"

[ThatsMyBarack]

44. Bye Bye Barba!

:woohoo:

[soleft]

45. A problem is the few good singers split the votes of people

who actually vote for good singers.

Certain "types" of singers attact a certain "type" of voter. Some people like the Divas, some people like the boy band wannabees, some people like the beefy guys who can really sing. IMO Chris Sligh took votes that Sundance would have had. That's who he lost to, not Sanjaya. The girl who got booted who could sing was a diva type and her competition was Lakisha and Melinda. Out of those three she was bound to lose.

Then there are people who always vote for worst contestent. The competition was between Sanjaya and Barba, obviously Sanjaya is a bigger freak, and that's why he's still on.

It will be interesting to see who gets booted first, Melinda, or Lakisha. Who ever loses will get the others vote and then will be very hard to beat. Same goes for Blake and the other boy band type.

But we will definitely lose a few more good singers before the freaks go. Unfortunately but that's how it always goes.

[Javaman]

47. Why? because it still actually on TV?? That's why I'm pissed. nt