Any old school Hardcore fans in the house?

[bicentennial_baby]

Just got my new copy of this today in the mail:



I keep re-buying it, but someone always swipes it from me. Can't say that I blame them though :D

[silvermachine]

1. Big Annette Haven fan here...

...oh, sorry. Um, yeah, Teen Idles, Minor Threat, etc.

[swag]

3. Loved her in "Skin Tight" with Lisa de Leeuw.

They had to tear the whole shopping mall down, because they could never get the carpet clean after that viewing.

Ah, Betamax!

[swag]

2. I remember that record.

I was in DC at the time, so like the other person that stuff was my main hardcore. But, as I've posted ad nauseam, I also enjoyed going to see many out-of-town bands like MDC, the Crucifucks, Black Flag, NigHeist, etc.

Congratulations on your excellent school term, by the way.

[bicentennial_baby]

4. Merci, mon ami

I remember seeing Fugazi at the 9:30 club when I was, oh, 14 or so...Good times :D

My favorite hardcore band name still is, and will always be, Born Against :D

:hi:

[swag]

9. So you saw that show in maybe 1991? So at the old 09:30 at 930 F St., probably

Darn. I saw them a lot but didn't see them there.

Anyways, I was still in town back then, so regret having missed your appearance.

[bicentennial_baby]

10. Yeah, around then, 91-92

I was in town for a week, staying in Bethesda. Got my first pair of Docs that week, and met a clown named Bob :D

Someday, we'll meet...We gotta! :bounce:

[driver8]

13. Ahhh...the old 9:30 Club on F Street. My old stomping grounds!

I did an internship in DC in 1985. There was a guy on the program from San Diego who liked the same music that I did. We saw so many shows there -- we were like kids in a candy store!!

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14. I'm sure I was there in the same bar as you on at least one night.

As was DU's Patsy Stone, probably.

[driver8]

20. What was the name of that really hot bartender -- she played bass

in the band, "Betty"?

Man, was she gorgeous!

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21. Yeah, Alyson Palmer. She was very nice as well as quite the looker.

http://www.bassgirls.com/bass_palmeralyson.htm

[driver8]

23. Great link -- thanks for that!

I remember talking with her a few times at the 9:30 club -- she was always so sweet and nice.

One night I was in there with a friend and we were chatting with her -- she gave us a flyer for her band and told us we had to come see them the following weekend. We put that flyer on our fridge and it stayed there forever!!

I remember being very impressed with her bass playing, and Betty was quite good.

[RiffRandell]

5. Loved "The Freeze"

Bought "Rabid Reaction" when I was a senior in HS in 1988-----it rocked.

[bicentennial_baby]

6. Rock on!

:bounce:

[RandomKoolzip]

7. No offense, but I never liked much Boston Hardcore.

I always assumed (probably incorrectly) that the whole "jock" element to StraightEdge came from Al Barile and SSD, Slapshot, et al., in other words, what Huntington Beach and DC revealed was taken to Boston and blossomed into something ugly there. It pains me, however, to look at my own words and realize that I'm talking extra-musical stuff. From a musical standpoint, I never liked Boston HC, either. DC, Minneapolis, and LA seemed to produce the most talented of musicians working within an almost absurdly limited form. (Jerry's Kids later became a pretty cool band, though. I liked their album "Kill Kill Kill," from 1989.)

Anyways.

I grew up in Southern Connecticut, and while I certainly can dig old school hardcore, my real faves were among the second and third waves of hardcore bands. 76% Uncertain (the greatest HC band EVER, IMO) came from Stratford, CT; Verbal Assault, Jawbox, Supertouch, Admiral, Youth of Today, Iceburn, et al. came from other places, but it seemed as though hardcore (and especially the virulient straightedge variety) was terribly popular in my area circa 1989-90. At least, that's when my friends and I were going to shows. It's kinda silly to see how much we latched on to certain bands who really sucked wildly just to be part of a "scene." However, the bands who actually contributed something to the body of rock music from the first, second, and third wave of hardcore (y'know, Minor Threat, Flag, Bad Brains, Middle Class, yadda X3) deserve many frothy toasts in their honor - they honestly stretched the boundaries of what was acceptable sound material for musicians working wihing the small band format to utilize. Excelsior, meatheads!

[bicentennial_baby]

8. I understand...

It's not my most favorite HC at all, but as a lifeling Masshole, it's kinda hard not to dig it. And, it's fun to listent o and boucne around, as I am wont to do :D

I only like pre-Rollins Black Flag though :P

And MacKaye starting an Emo band makes me wanna :puke:

Early 90s HC/Punk was fun too...I remember good shows in my little town in MA, Bikini Kill and whatnot, and the "post-punk" Nation of Ulysses. Sam Black Church sucked though...

[RandomKoolzip]

11. Ugh...NAtion of Ulysses....

That's around the time I stopped giving a flying foo what was going on in Hardcore (LSD helped in this regard, too). Ian Svenonius can go suck a fuck.

I will admit that some of my preferences in the HC realm were influenced by proximity, but I DO maintain that 76% Uncertain produced one of the greatest lost rock albums since the creation of vinyl, "Hunka Hunka Burnin' Log." If you EVER find a copy, fork over however much bread you can to acquire it. It sounds like nothing else on this earth; stunningly original ideas about melody, structure, rythym, and harmonic climate abound on this disc.

Anyways, I've seen Fugazi twice and both times featured about 70% improvisation. Whether any of it was any good was besides the point; it was such a ballsy move to pull on a crowd of people shouting "Small Man Big Mouth!" that I must give the man (and his fantastic rythym section) props. I can't believe people go to Fugazi shows expecting Ian to pull out "Guilty of Being White" or some such. He's given these knuckleknobs well over 15 years to wrap their heads around Minor Threat's death and accept the new boss....some people won't listen no matter how much they get yelled at.

Honestly, some of the best HC-esque rock action I ever witnessed was at riot grrl shows. I was the drummer in a abnd that played stuff similar to Huggy BEar, and there was a burgeoning scene of like-minded rockahs making the rounds in 1996-7 who I liked much: The Third Sex, Sleater-Kinney (saw them in some skater's living room with thirty or so other people; best live band I ever saw), The Wives, Tector Gortch, etc. How sad that that particular corner has been turned as well. Alas...

[bicentennial_baby]

12. LOL

You're at least the 3rd person I've kown who's seen Sleater Kinney in someone's living room! :rofl:

Yeah, I hear you about Svenonius...He was Sassy mag's "Sassiest Boy in America" 1991, y'know... :rofl:

76% Uncertain? I'll have to keep my eyes peeled :)

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15. Funny. He worked at Second Story when he was named "Sassiest"

(my friend Amy gave a testimonial for him on his testimonial cassette), but then suddenly he was Sassiest and there he was behind the counter at Tower Video.

Hated most of his bands' output, but he was a very nice, very funny guy.

[bicentennial_baby]

16. He was marginally entertaining live...

And also :rofl:

The same year, my friend Hannah was the "Sassiest Girl in America"...Swear to gawd... :D

[swag]

17. Whoa.

I've got to find that Sassiest Girl issue.

[bicentennial_baby]

18. Her name was

Hannah Lord :D

Her sister's name is Apple :)

her dad was my 3rd grade teacher too :)

[Kat45]

19. I remember that record.

But I wasn't into that music. Though I later did interview and write about Straw Dogs, who had been The F.U.'s, IIRC.

[slj0101]

22. Have you seen "American Hardcore" yet?

It just came out on DVD a few weeks ago. Not as good as the book (which I managed to read in one sitting), but a pretty fun film to watch. They focus a lot on the Boston scene, too (SS Decontrol, Gang Green, etc).