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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 10:35 PM
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what the hell was so funny about steve martin's stand up career
in the late 70s?

banjo music?

i don't get it, so "excuuuuuuse me."
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 10:41 PM
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1. I thought it was hilarious back in the day. Then I turned 12.
Admittedly, his stand-up doesn't have much of a shelf life. Much like his post-All of Me career.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 10:43 PM
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2. You had to be there.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 10:50 PM
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4. i was
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 10:50 PM by datasuspect
all the kids in first grade thought it was hilarious shit.

it's not like you could have avoided it back then, there was a steve martin saturation marketing campaign for quite a few years.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:09 PM
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7. Didn't like the baloon bit, huh?
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:16 PM
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9. the bunny ears were pretty lame too
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:17 PM
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10. We all loved the white hair and white suit.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:18 PM
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12. which kinda reminds me
when he would play off SNL cast members, he could be kinda funny.

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:18 PM
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13. Wild and Crazy guys was funny.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 10:44 PM
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3. it wasn't Sienfeld's "comedy" career,
which automatically made it pretty damned funny.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:17 PM
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11. seinfeld
as a stand up, cannot stand him.

his show (which i think was more larry david than anything) i never watched in prime time, but came to enjoy in syndication.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 10:53 PM
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5. His early stuff was... fresh
When a guy does riffs like "Well, here's something you don't see every day," then sticks his fingers in his mouth and jumps up and down going "AHHHHHRRRRRR!" you laugh at the sheer outrageousness.

But then he became a "star" and rode his own wave. On the third album, he did some bit about "I hope you don't get sick of Steve." Which was exactly what happened.

Pity. He's really talented, but his stand-up career went downhill when he started relying on the standards, like "King Tut" and "A Wild and Crazy Guy," instead of doing the kind of stuff that got him there.

Ever read "Cruel Shoes"? It was as if he just wrote whatever popped into his mind. Most of it was crap.

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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:14 PM
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8. i think he was a philosophy major at a community college
somewhere in california, he had that "i took a few lower division philosophy courses, so now i am profound" brand of dilletantism.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:20 PM
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14. Meh
Lenny Bruce was profound. George Carlin was profound. Stephen Wright is profound, in his own bizarre way.

Steve Martin was just... goofy. But it was a flavor of goofy we hadn't heard before, so we ate it up for awhile.

We ate up Gallagher for awhile, too. :eyes:

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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:25 PM
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15. gallagher is the only person that could move me to cannibalism
if only to save the world from his banality.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:39 PM
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17. I saw him twice
The first time — I think it was 1982 — was when the watermelon bit was still pretty fresh. He killed. (If you ever saw his Showtime special "Melon Crazy," it was that show. If you saw the empty seat between the bearded guy and the curly-headed woman, that was my seat; I was roaming around making photos. The woman was my gf and the guy was an old friend.)

Second time was... dunno — several years later. The comedian during Gallagher's break was funnier. I forget his name — long last name, starts with 'K' — but he wound up on some sitcom not long after.

Gallagher actually got mad at some guy who got up to go to the bathroom or something. And he wasn't very funny.

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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:39 PM
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16. She had the Jugs
She Had The Jugs

Yes, she was witty; she was intelligent. She was born of high station. She spoke and walked proudly. She was the kind who displayed nobility, who showed style and class. But above all, she had the jugs.

Many people called her by her last name; some closer friends had a confidence with her and shared the intimacy of her first name. But to me, she was always "Lady jugs a-plenty."

It is true. She was clever and she was charming, but above all, she had the jugs.


  I guess you had to be there. Every comedian from the past is viewed through today's lense. People like Lenny Bruce, Andy Kaufman and, though I don't think his work is as socially-relevant as theirs, Steve Martin broke ground in his own way. Sure, we can make fun of his act. But that's more than a fair bit of armchair quarterbacking. Look at the great performers of vaudeville. Has anyone here seen acts like those? Those are extremely easy to criticize from today's perspective- if one bothers to make the attempt. And yet those performers were some of the most popular of their time.

  Why? Because different eras have different tastes and comedians, especially, cater to those tastes.

  Tastes then are not tastes now. It is fairly straightforward a point to understand, it would seem.

  And so some in the future may and likely will pontificate on how we could find (cutting edge comedian) funny.

  And, of course, they are missing the point entirely. And that they would take such a thing seriously enough to pursue is, I find, more than a little amusing.

  Comedy is where you find it. :P

PB
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 11:49 PM
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18. i was not even a thought in the 1930s
Edited on Sat Mar-17-07 11:50 PM by datasuspect
but the three stooges are enormously funny.

if you had a teevee in the 70s, you were "there." that's how "well, excuuuuse me" and "two wild and crazy guys" became national catch phrases.

and vaudeville (or the traces of it you can find in early movies) is also very entertaining.

steve martin, not so much.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 10:54 PM
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6. He was the anti-comedian
The joke was that what we were supposed to think was funny was not actually funny. Appreciating his humor was facilitated by smoking massive quantities of pot.
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