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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 05:16 PM
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Poll question: Hmmm, $40k loan for a diploma for jobs that make $30k/yr (entry level) - is it worth it?
Edited on Mon Mar-19-07 05:18 PM by HypnoToad
(A.A.S. degree, BTW... not Bachelor's)

Cost of living is about $1kmo.

After taxes, net pay would be ~$1600/mo.

Cost to repay education would be $300/mo.

That'd be around 5 years.

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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 05:21 PM
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1. I dunno. The real question is:
Is it worth it to YOU?

Now, if you were spending $100k for a $30k job, I'd just simply hit you upside the head.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 05:27 PM
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2. Looking at examples of students' work, I could do the same thing now...
Edited on Mon Mar-19-07 05:27 PM by HypnoToad
And I don't have a degree in that specific field...

Still, it is a degree and my IT background would get be a bit more than $30k/yr...

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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 05:27 PM
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3. How long would you be @ $30,000 a year?
You'll continually owe less on your loans but (hopefully) earn more @ your job. :shrug:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 05:30 PM
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4. Given an employment seminar whose instructor said the longest time at a job these days is
5 years, "stable employment" is a non-sequitur.

It's a pity I was never any good at chess... but that's okay, our society is based from poker anyway... pity I can't read faces... :rofl:

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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 05:43 PM
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5. Tells you what I know.
I've had two jobs that didn't require use of a cash register (I had three of those) The first I worked at for ten years and the second I've been at for nine. :shrug: But then again, I didn't go to college....
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 08:14 PM
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11. Well, sometimes that is because people move on to bigger better things
My boss at my last job told me that I should not spend more than 5 years with a company where I did not intend to retire if they were not continuously advancing me. Perhaps the person at the employment seminar meant something like that.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 07:08 PM
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6. save your $$
30k is entry level. you'll get much more (especially in IT-related) from time put in. take a couple of online courses in the field you are in. i'm taking a VB.net course right now online for $89.

it WOULD have helped in my current job but i'm starting a new job on 04/02 that is graphic design and web development (self-taught).

on the job training beats a college ed any day of the week and in IT, they really don't give a shit.

good luck :hi:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 07:10 PM
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7. I am jumping fields... so I can transfer some credits... and I was told
An actual degree means more to employers than a handful of certs - for those certs are no better than the breath freshener candy of the same name... :D And she was right, already having any degree will get me further than a handful of certs...

But I am thinking of jumping from IT to something more visual arts or advertising... ironic, but programming isn't my gig...

I will take some online courses and go from there, I do appreciate the advice.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 07:19 PM
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9. if you have done some visual work....
and it's good. set up a web site to show-case it. then link the site on your resume.

TRUST me.

if they like what they see, you'll be hired
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 07:13 PM
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8. just be born into a rich family
that way you can do something silly like graduate work in flemish or something.
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 07:22 PM
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10. It really depends on how much you'll be making
without the education. If it will give you a large enough increase in income, then go for it.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 08:20 PM
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12. $40,000 for a two year degree? Sounds like a diploma mill
Go to community college instead.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 08:23 PM
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13. Is there another college that would be cheaper?
Edited on Mon Mar-19-07 08:24 PM by Nikia
I don't know how expensive the community colleges are in Minnesota, but you'd be spending less than half that getting a two year degree here.
Also, what kind of loan do you plan to get, I am paying more per month for my Federal subsidized loans and I owed less than $40,000 and am still paying on them almost 7 years later. This will be the first year that I made above $30,000 per year. I have a Bachelor's degree. Still, I think that it was worth it. As someone who already has a degree, though, you might feel differently.
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july302001 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 10:52 PM
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14. back in the day...
Back before Ronald Reagan RUINED education in California, community college was FREE. The tuition started out low...now it's multiple hundreds of dollars a semester!

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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-20-07 12:39 AM
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16. Hell, the CSU system was damned near free
A few hundred per semester, give or take.

I went to a community college ("junior college" then) in '74-'75 and back in '77-'79. All I ever paid for were books and some lab materials. Oh, and a parking permit; I think it was $7 for a year.

And this was while they were doing major construction on campus — many millions for new buildings.

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-19-07 11:05 PM
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15. can you take a bunch of stuff at Community College?
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