So anti-abortion is now called pro-birthday?

[u4ic]

:wtf:

I caught the last bit of an interview on cbc radio with a representative from Georgia called Mills using this term.

[NMMNG]

1. Those fundies are so warped

:eyes:

[u4ic]

5. Are they ever...

:puke:

[LostInAnomie]

2. So does that mean Jehovah's Witnesses are pro-abortion?

I'm confused!

[mainegreen]

4. !!!!

:rofl:

[u4ic]

6. LOL

[xmas74]

3. I don't have to change my opinion much, do I.

I've been anti-MYbirthday for years now.

I quit aging after my 23rd birthday.

[liberaltrucker]

7. Apparently, Frank Luntz is out of linguistic ideas

:rofl:

[CatholicEdHead]

8. I am so sick of "pro-" this and "anti-" that

no matter what issue.

[u4ic]

9. I agree

this has NO place other than between a woman and her doctor.

[REP]

21. I'm Pro This Post!

Best response in this thread!

[qnr]

15. Does that make you pro-elimination? or anti-continuation?

:P

[SeattleGirl]

10. Oh, good grief!

They are really scraping the bottom of the barrel to find new ways to twist this issue, aren't they? :eyes:

[Oeditpus Rex]

11. Well, that's what it amounts to

Assuming they mean "birthday" literally, and not "anniversary of one's birth."



I just watched (again) a "Frontline" episode about the only remaining abortion clinic in Mississippi, so I'm pretty riled up about this issue right now.

[Control-Z]

12. It would not be

appropriate, in a public forum, for me to say how this kind of crap makes me feel. You can probably imagine, though.

How are you, u4ic?

[REP]

22. Thanks Be, I Can Only Imagine

I know how much the antiabortnoids piss me off. No one will ever convince me that that there's such a thing as a decent pro-liar.

[qnr]

13. Well, in a twisted sort of way, it makes sense, in relation to how they actually

behave.

They claim to be pro-life, yet love to support the death penalty and needless wars. However, since technically you can only have one "birthday" (all the others being anniversaries of the event) it's much more consistent with their philosophy. Make sure there is a birthday, then the day after the birthday, throw the kid in the gutter.

[SKKY]

14. What are you talking aboot??

Canada certainly takes this political correctness to a new level, huh?

[Random_Australian]

16. Pah. They should stop the pretenses and call themselves what they're thinking -

"the superior people"

Or if they'd like a touch of realism, they could call themselves

"people who would not recognise an emotional hook in an argument if it tore off their eyebrows and proceeded to make a quilt with their eyebrow-hairs while sitting in their tea, waving a great big sign and an even bigger bare behind"

[SeattleGirl]

17. Actually, I think "Pro-Fetus/Anti-Child" would be a better title.

They get all up in arms about how the fetus is a human being from the moment of conception, but just watch what they do after the child is born: they are against programs to help disadvantaged children, against any kind of federal/state funding for medical care for babies and their moms, they hate welfare, etc. They don't give a flying fuck about these children once their born. I've said it before and I'll say it again: these asshats see pregnancy as punishment for the "sins" of the mothers. I mean, how DARE these women have SEX?????? They must PAY, the harlots!!!

Unless, of course, it's on Saturday night, lights out, under the covers, missionary position, and solely for the purpose of procreation. :grr:

[Random_Australian]

18. Yup. And, if they really wanted to reduce abortion rates, they'd see to it

that people could access contraception.

Ah no, they're only pro-fetus on their own narrow terms.


One internet fundie once said "It's immorality that causes AIDS, not a virus" and he was justly given a "proudly marching into the sixteenth century" award.

These bastards rank at about the same level. Mustn't hurt those who can't protect themselves.... until they can blame their misfortune on sin.

Because really, that's where they drawn the lines on when to help someone - the mothers? Sinners and harlots, so screw them. The young children? Sinners. Screw em all. The fetus? Oh nooooo, the fetus' problems aren't coming from not worshipping the Lawd enough! Must save them from the evil, evil mothers!

That's one of the many reasons that I finally decided that moral authority stems from action - and action alone. If they want moral authority to command, they're going to have to actually do something that doesn't increase the suffering of humans.

Mind you, my stereotype is a little general, there are those against abortion who are so for other reasons, but from what I've seen, in order to marry a "pro-lifer" and a genuinely good person you'd have to engage in bigamy.

[SeattleGirl]

19. Oy, thanks for that post, RA

I'm guilty of posting while tired....I totally overlooked the contraception issue! That's definitely another thing the fundies are against, along with REAL sex education.

And those Daddy/Daughter parties they have, where the daughters "pledge" to their fathers that they will remain virgins until they marry? I'm read some stuff about those things, and it sounds more like incest. They are really creepy.

I wish these type of folks would just move to an island somewhere and leave we sane ones alone.

[Random_Australian]

20. That's true. Anything that involves a daughter pledging control of her

genitals to her father is plain wrong. Those things are wrong out of this world.



Ugh, moving on, as I'm getting creeped out.

Anyway, the sex education thing is the real fallacy of modern times - yes, practicing abstinence is 100% effective. However, teaching it is not at ALL effective. Therefore the whole thing is ineffective.

[El Fuego]

24. And they look the other way from fertility clinics that destroy embryos

Fertility clinics routinely throw live embryos into med-waste incinerators. But do the fundies care? Nooooo. They are only concerned if there is a woman involved, because their brand of conservatism means keeping women in their place.

[Left Is Write]

23. This letter to the editor appeared in the Idaho Statesman yesterday.

I read it while my husband and I were waiting for my daughter's Brownie meeting to be over; I kept muttering under my breath and Mr. LIW said it wasn't good for me to get so angry about a letter.

Here it is:

"Stop abortion

Stop killing my generation.

I refer to abortion as a hot, cold topic because abortion has recently been cooling down; however, I believe it will always be hot and controversial whether it is illegal or not.

Abortion is wrong, and it is homicide. That is as simple as I can put it. My question to everyone who supports abortion is: How can you support murder? The baby that is being aborted has a heart, arms and legs and is 100 percent alive. You're killing a living being.

Yes, women should have rights but should not have the right to choose whether or not to kill their child; that is equivalent to saying that I have human rights, so therefore I can kill a random person on the street. You are not allowed to take a goldfish on an airplane because it will die, but we can certainly go kill an unborn child, can't we?

About 4,400 babies are aborted each day, which equals 1,606,000 babies a year! I encourage everyone who reads this to respond through another editorial, whether you are pro-life or pro-choice. You won't silence my message, you won't mock my God, you will stop killing my generation!

Matt Walling, Nampa"

[jobycom]

25. I think they figure that one day they will stumble on the magical phrase that convinces everyone.

They've never had logic, truth, morals, or integrity on their side, so they hope to fool people with linguistic tricks. Kind of the way preachers manipulate their congregations, or politicians their constituents. They wouldn't understand truth if it hit them in the face, because all they believe is what someone persuades them to believe.

Disclaimer: That in no way is meant to refer to religion.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

26. It's called anti-choice in my book.

It isn't pro-anything. It's about butting into other people's PRIVATE business; and I resent the invasion, myself.

[Aristus]

27. Well, you know how we pro-choicers HATE birthdays...

:eyes: