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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:06 AM
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Were you offended by Stewart's jokes at Gore's expense on tonight's Daily Show?
There's a thread over in GD that's irritating to me with a bunch of people offended because Stewart, a satirist and a comedian, had the AUDACITY - the GALL - to poke fun at Gore.

As far as I'm concerned, if we can't laugh at ourselves, we're no better than the shitbags on the other side. I thought the jokes on Gore were kinda funny - one has to admit, Gore's metaphor was pretty limp.

How do you feel about tonight's show? How do you feel about supporting any comedian, especially a political comedian, that actually pokes fun at both sides?

As for me, I'm cool with it - especially when it's deserved.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:06 AM
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1. Nope.
Still laughing at the "Fourth-mealer like me" comment. :rofl:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:07 AM
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2. Haven't seen it yet
but read the threads about it.

I think such outrage is supremely silly. The Daily Show isn't a Democratic show, and Stewart doesn't owe any allegiance to Dem leaders.

Letterman's been doing fat-Gore jokes all week, and they crack me up.
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:45 AM
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26. "Al Gore: Fattest Ass Since Taft"
:rofl:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:07 AM
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3. We're in serious trouble when we can't laugh at ourselves or other liberals.
That's what happened to the other side..too f'n serious.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:07 AM
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4. Quite frankly I missed it
But I figure if we cannot laugh at ourselves, it makes it that much easier for our enemies to be able to laugh at us.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:08 AM
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5. I'll never vote for Jon Stewart again!
*huff puff whine cry bitch moan bitch bitch*
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:09 AM
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6. Well you ARE talking about GD here.
The most humourless, uptight wanks on the internet.
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aquaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:10 AM
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7. No....
He does comedy, comedy does not recognize political affiliation.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:10 AM
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8. I laugh hardest when there's a good joke about our side.
Jokes about Republicans write themselves, but jokes about Democrats and liberals take a certain finesse that few can accomplish. Jon Stewart can pull it off. FOX News' comedy show can not. It's all about gentle ribbing.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:11 AM
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9. I watched the David Steinberg interview with Jon the other night.
In it Stewart said something to the effect: "People think of us (meaning the Daily Show/Colbert Report) as being advocates for their political position. They believe we represent them and are willing to go to bat for them. But we're actually comedians whose primary purpose is to entertain. We don't represent anyone. That doesn't stop people getting very pissed off with us when we poke fun at their sacred cows, however."
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Serendipitous Donating Member (216 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:14 AM
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10. I'm offended that others are offended.
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haf216 Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:15 AM
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11. If we are lucking enough to have a Democratic president
time around, to they think that Stewart is just going close up shop and go home? He is going to poke fun at who ever is in office.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:17 AM
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12. No
And I can hardly wait until KO has the wrong eye inflection while doing a story and will get roasted for it by the hypersensitive. Ugh.
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aquaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:18 AM
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13. Hey Buddy....
Hope you are doing well. Long time no talk. :hi:
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:43 AM
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17. Hey bro!
How's the family? You gotta check out William Fitzsimmons; he does Iron And Wine better than Iron And Wine, and he's an incredibly nice guy, too:

http://www.myspace.com/williamfitzsimmons

"Funeral Dress" is a classic; check out the youtube clip of the song, it's great..
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:22 AM
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14. Only if it wasn't funny
And the word wouldn't be offended. More like disappointed.

I don't mind my ox getting gored now and then.

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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:24 AM
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15. Pokerfan said Gored...
How dare you make fun of the real president....
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:36 AM
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16. Some people in GD need to toughen up monumentally.
The left says and does stupid things from time to time, and comedians joke about it. It doesn't mean they're dining at the WH and jetsetting on AF1 every weekend. It means someone did something funny or stupid or awkward and they laugh about it.

I wonder about the stress levels of some GDers if something like that gets them riled up.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:47 AM
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18. No. It's exactly what makes John Stewart funny
He's a satirist, he's supposed to see irony and lunacy first, rather than trying to sell a political ideology. Comedians can have an ideology, but when their whole point becomes selling that ideology, they are no longer funny. Like the Fox attempt to parody The Daily Show. I can laugh at a comedian with a view I don't agree with if the joke comes first (and if he or she is any good), but not at a comedian--on either side--who is really just trying to sell an ideology. They are never loyal to their jokes, and they always come across as patronizing more than funny.
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amitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:25 AM
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19. I am so mad I can hardly see straight. I almost hemorrhaged.
I cannot fathom that this comedian, who clearly is a very public mouthpiece for every thought that happens to run through my mind, would betray me in such a manner.

I love Gore, and so must Jon Stewart. I love the Democrats, and so must Jon Stewart. I love peanut butter on bananas, and so must Jon Stewart.

I allow no jokes, I allow no ribbing, I allow no freedom of thought or action.

Now leave me alone so I can get back to GD, and my own unending angry depressive state.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 01:45 AM
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20. pft-bhwahahahaha...haven't seen a thing at DU bout Maher's take...
on what Gen. Pace sputtered the other day vis-a-vis morality ='ing "know when to pull out of a shit hole" thereafter either wink-wink, nudge-nudge, know'whada mean ahhhhhhhhhh,

but we don't always bother to pick the battles we can even win, when so busy picking the sensibilities we are able to sleep with :rofl: but no regarding your Stewart/Gore question: what is is what is; i would have rather Gore not go quite so on & on about the 'baby with a fever' allegory either no pun intended so :shrug:
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Efilroft Sul Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:31 AM
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21. As the saying goes, "Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke."
Lighten up, you GD bastages.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:24 AM
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22. The left seems like a very humorless bunch in general.
Sorry,but that's just how I see it. :shrug:
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:39 AM
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23. Oh, please.
To all of you who thought it wasn't funny: "Here's a dollar, buy a sense of humor." :eyes:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:45 AM
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24. You saw my post in the thread
I take it all with a grain of salt
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:45 AM
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25. what did martha stewart do now?
that lady makes it increasingly more difficult for me to like her.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:51 AM
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27. Annoying, yes, but I made a lovely chalkboard-paint message board
for my new home from a tip on her site!

What they are doing discussing Miss Martha in GD is beyond me...
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 11:18 AM
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28. it's the stupidiest thing I've ever seen. How they will now boycott Stewart because of one lousy
Gore joke out of a half hour of giving it to the GOP.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 11:23 AM
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29. No
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 11:27 AM by Strawman
Jesus. If Al Gore's metaphors are that sacred to someone, they have problems. I don't even think Al Gore himself would have a problem with that treatment.

I watch that and the thing that makes me angry isn't that Jon Stewart tried to make Al Gore look a little silly. Maybe he used a lame metaphor, but what's lamer is that this is how we do governance. This is how we problem solve something like global warming. The Republicans don't want to solve the problem. They just want to be able to put "for the children" at the end of their rhetoric on the issue of energy.

I think it shows the limits of persuasion. You can dumb down the analogy to a 2nd grade level, you can present the findings of an overwhelming scientific consensus to support your argument, but the bottom line is that none of that shit matters to these people because they just don't fucking want it to be true. Their mentality is "I don't want to be some hippie environmentalist and goddamnit, you can't make me." There's a whole forcefield of identity and desire for them that is just impenetrable by reason on this (and so many other) issues.

Enough talk. Enough dumbed down analogies. Those things do warrant parody. Enough trying to get the hard core righties onboard a societal consensus. Fuck going to breakfast with Inhofe. Get a fucking working majority and shove a sane energy policy right down their goddamn throats!
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