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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 05:57 PM
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Do you believe in karma? Do you believe that bad shit happens to people because they deserve it?
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AirmensMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 05:59 PM
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1. No.
I wish I could, but it seems like the bad people get all the breaks and the good people get shit.

But I could quickly change my mind if some of our current really bad people ... well, you know ...
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:39 PM
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21. It may seem that way on the surface...
"it seems like the bad people get all the breaks..."

but just as some illnesses or handicaps aren't apparent on the surface, I believe their lives are deficient in that bad people never really know the true wealth that comes of loving and being loved unconditionally, above any doubt, and with no strings attached. There is a darkness that lurks in the void where their soul should be that can't be erased by any of the material successes or breaks that are apparent in their lives.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 05:59 PM
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2. actually no i dont. i think the concept of karma is too complex
to reduce it to a tit for tat notion.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:17 PM
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7. I agree with you 100%.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:18 PM
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8. is this a first?
:)

:hi:
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:21 PM
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13. To be honest, no.
You may not believe it, but I have actually agreed with you on numerous occasions. Perhaps I should make more of an effort to convey that, instead of just commenting when we disagree? ;)

:hi:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:24 PM
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14. thats ok. i am a big girl and can take some disagreements.
:hi:
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:05 PM
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3. No
if it was true, Cheney would be long dead and Elizabeth Edwards would live to be 100.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:07 PM
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4. Yes, I believe in karma. I also believe in reincarnation, so even if they...
don't experience the karma during this life, I believe that they ultimately will.

However, I don't think that every bad thing that happens to someone is because of karma.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 07:14 PM
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27. Nice dream, too bad it isn't a reality, in any lifetime! It's only a dream, afterall.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 08:04 PM
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30. Thank you for sharing. n/t
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:13 PM
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5. Shit Happens

Taoism: Shit happens

Confucianism: Confucius says: "Shit happens"

Buddhism: If shit happens, it isn't really shit

Zen: What is the sound of shit happening?

Hinduism: This shit has happened before

Islam: If shit happens, it is the will of Allah

Protestantism: Let the shit happen to someone else

Catholicism: If shit happens, you deserve it

Judaism: Why does shit always happen to us?

Sufism: The wise man never notices shit happening

Christian Science: If shit happens, pretend it doesn't really
exist

Solipsism: Shit happens because I wish it

Mysticism: Just experience shit happening

Asceticism: If shit happens, renounce it

Agnosticism: Nobody knows why shit happens

Gnosticism: I know why shit happens but won't tell you

Atheism: Shit just happens and that's all there is to it

Cartesianism: Shit happens to me, therefore I exist

Platonism: There is ideal shit happening somewhere

Stoicism: I don't care if shit happens

Epicureanism: Let's party while shit doesn't happen

Cynicism: Of course shit happens

Occultism: Shit materializes from other planes of existence

Terrorism: Shit will happen unless you do as I say

Pollyanism: It's so nice that shit happens!

Puritanism: S** can happen all day as long as you don't call
it that

Behaviorism: You are conditioned to having shit happen

Freudianism: If shit happens, it's your mother's fault

Parapsychology: Shit happens without material causes

Surrealism: Purple shit happens near melting clocks

Cubism: If shit happens, you won't recognize it

Cultural relativism: Shit happens everywhere differently

Optimism: If shit happens, we'll find a way to use it

Pessimism: If shit happens, there won't be enough for
everybody

Tabloid Sensationalism: Green shit from Mars happens to Elvis
clone

Biblical Creationism: Shit happens because God created it

Secular Humanism: Shit happens because it evolved from
primitive shit

Scientific Reductionism: If shit happens, find out what kind
exactly

Scientific Obscurantism: Amorphous excrement does occur in
given cases

Bureaucracy: I don't care if shit happens as long as you fill
out the forms

Feminism: Women demand to have shit happen

Ecology: If organic shit happens, it's OK

Capitalism: Let's profit from shit happening

Socialism: If shit happens, let's distribute it equally

Patriotism: Our shit is better than your shit

Conservatism: They don't make even shit happen like they used
to

Liberalism: Shit shouldn't happen tomorrow

Classical Physics: Shit does not 'happen', it just moves
around

Quantum Physics #1: Shit happens but you can't say both where
and when

Quantum Physics #2: Shit happens in discrete quanta called
shitons

Holistic Physics: If shit happens, it happens everywhere at
once

Microcomputing: If shit happens, we'll fix it in the next
version

Computer Science: All shit can in principle happen on a
Turing Machine

Applied Mathematics: The probability of shit happening
approaches unity

Engineering: When shit happens, paint over

Medicine: If shit happens, take two Aspirins and call me in
the morning

Economics: Shit happens because there's a great demand for it

Politics: If shit happens, make a deal with it

Diplomacy: Let's pretend shit doesn't happen
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AirmensMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:19 PM
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10. Variations ...
Protestantism: Shit won't happen if I work harder.

Rastafarianism: Let's smoke this shit!

:rofl:

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TheFriendlyAnarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:56 PM
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24. I hereby convert to rastafarianism!
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AirmensMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 07:19 PM
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28. ...
:rofl:
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:28 PM
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15. Scientology: Let Tom Cruise purify the shit out of you
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:16 PM
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6. I did until Katrina made it clear that...
bad shit happens to good people for no reason other than chance.

I still like to hold on to the notion though, that if you fuck with people's lives, it WILL come back to haunt you, some way, some how, some time. I think that most people do, and that's what makes living on this globe with utter assholes tolerable.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:19 PM
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11. welll according to hindu karma...we also suffer for the sins of the times. or our society.
arguably katrina victims were paying societal karma.

thats what i mean by the concept of karma is too complex.

:hi:
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Ms_Dem_Meanor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:19 PM
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9. I believe in karma.
in the words of Justin Timberlake:

"What goes around comes back around!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0VSBWsQqf8
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zenaflare Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 07:09 PM
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25. Okay ms_dem_meanor........
Here is my very first response :hi:

I believe in Karma......Havent you ever laughed at someone who tripped in front of you and and then danmn if it doesnt happen to you right after you giggle?!

See you at work tomorrow!!
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:21 PM
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12. I did until the Bush cabal came in and turned the US government into a criminal enterprise.
I keep thinking that Karma is going to step in and these murderous thugs will get what's coming to them, but I don't have very high hopes that is going to happen.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:32 PM
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16. I do believe in it, but I've been waiting a real long time for one person
I know to get what's coming his way. I don't know if he ever will, but that saying and belief gives me hope.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:33 PM
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17. No
That way of looking at things doesn't explain why bad things happen to so many good people, or why so many bad people have so many good things happen to them.

I don't believe in it any more than I believe that nonsense about "the Secret" - how having positive thoughts and energy will bring all your dreams to fruition. To me, that's an insult to all the strong, positive, upbeat people (many of them kids) who've died of horrible diseases or live in poverty.

Life is more complex than that.

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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:33 PM
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18.  Um . . .


Any questions?
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:35 PM
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19. No, the Universe does not recognize irony........
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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:39 PM
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20. Yes I do. But it's not that simple.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:49 PM
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22. Actually, that sounds more like dogma than karma.
And I've been trying to get it out of my head for the longest time.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 06:54 PM
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23. Nah. Just delicious coincidence.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 07:11 PM
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26. LMAO! It nevers happens! Bad people never paid for their evil crap!
EVER!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 07:19 PM
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29. No. But sometimes I wish bad things would happen to people.
That makes me evil. :hi:
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 08:05 PM
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31. maybe not in this lifetime
:shrug:
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Bullwinkle925 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 08:40 PM
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32. No - bad shit happens to people who are undeserving as well.
Perhaps I believe more in 'fate'.
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 08:44 PM
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33. Not anymore. I've seen too many good people struck down and too many truly evil people let off.
I WISH there was karma, but after the past 7 years, I don't believe in it.
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 08:59 PM
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34. No.
I don't believe in karma. And even though it's supposed to be a balancing energy, it's almost more of a fear thing. Not fear, but the key concept is that what goes around comes around. So then the motivation is still what would happen to you.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-27-07 09:03 PM
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35. No.
It's a soothing idea but I don't believe it.
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