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QMPMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:05 PM
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Well shit. I hate Revenue Canada.
I went from a tax refund of $520.00 to owing the bastards $520.03.

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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:07 PM
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1. Welcome to North America. Want to trade RC for our IRS? At least you guys get something
in return for your tax payments.

What to we Americans get? A giant hole in Iraq that eats our tax dollars.

Redstone
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QMPMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:18 PM
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Well, *some* people get something by living in Canada. I live in Alberta,
Edited on Fri Mar-30-07 09:39 PM by QMPMom
the absolute richest Province in the country. We're sitting on so much damn oil that is practically seeps out of the ground......

and we are the only Province in this land of "Socialized Medicine" that makes it's residents pay for their health care premiums. It's free in all other Provinces - even the Provinces that don't have a pot to piss in, so to speak.

The streets in this city are shit because the power of the Province, up until this past January, was centered in Calgary when Edmonton, where I live, is the Provincial capital. Money was thrown at Calgary while Edmonton sat and got basically zip. Unemployment is at about 4% in Alberta and the damn place is getting richer by the minute but there's not much of it shared with the residents.

In all my years of living in the US, I never owed one penny in taxes after I sent in my tax return. (Make that INCOME TAXES.)

This is the first year I have ever had to pay more. Anywhere.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:26 PM
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5. In Ontario they have health care "premiums"
Although it's just a new tax they dubbed a premium so they can claim they didn't break their campaign promise of not paying taxes.

Be grateful your tax dollars aren't paying for the occupation of Iraq.
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QMPMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:34 PM
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9. Ah, so Ontario is now in the same boat as Alberta.
Well, at least you didn't have Ralph Klein.

Thank God that horrid drunkard is gone and Ed Stelmach, even though he he is a Conservative, is in power.

Did you know that Ralph is so hated that he has been provided with a personal bodyguard by the Provincial Government? That has never happened before, according to the news reports I read.
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querelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 06:57 AM
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22. Same As Mulroney
He's the only ex PM to have round the clock RCMP guards even though he's retired. BTW, I live in Ottawa and Jean Chretien is my neighbor. He bought a house two streets over from me when he retired from politics and he has no guards or security detail. He also does all of his own yard work and walks his own dog! Imagine that!

Q
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ncabot22 Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 01:29 AM
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17. Premiums in BC, too
Fortunately, my employer pays the premium. One of the perks of working in a cube farm.

I might be wrong, but I think only NB and NS don't have premiums. Maybe Newfoundland too.

And I agree with you about the tax dollars...it is nice to know our taxes actually pay for social services!
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QMPMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:36 AM
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19. I'm glad that BC has premiums now. My employer pays half of the
premium and I pay the other half.

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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 07:55 AM
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23. Only Alberta, BC and recently Ontario pay premiums, according to Health Canada
I know I don't.
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 12:55 AM
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14. Calgary here, Where in Alberta are you?
Along with you and u4ic, though she's nuts, we almost have enough for a get-together! Too bad Screaming Lord Byron seems to have vanished. Oh yeah, I hate RC too, but everyone does.


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QMPMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:39 AM
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20. Edmonton, the same as u4ic. The pothole capital of Canada.
I swear I am going to take my digital and film them all along 111 Ave and attempt to embarrass the city and province with it. Pretty soon they are going to just have to grate up the asphalt and rock the streets because they are crumbling. It's a sad day when a provincial capital has streets that can ruin tires and your wheel alignment.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 01:26 AM
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16. that's weird that only one province pays
hmmm
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ncabot22 Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:14 PM
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2. I'm sorry to hear it, QMPMom
I owe them money, too, though not nearly as much. Just take a deep breath and thank your lucky stars that we don't have to deal with the IRS....I've heard they are pretty scary. :)
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:27 PM
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6. Welcome to DU, fellow Canuck!
:toast:
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ncabot22 Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 01:24 AM
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15. Thanks!
I'm a long time lurker. I thought the board needed another Canadian voice, so I've decided to start posting. :)
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:44 AM
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24. Welcome, but there's lots of canadians here.
:)
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 12:19 PM
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26. It's great to see the Canuck contingent expanding...
:bounce:


Do you know there's a Canada forum, too?
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QMPMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:28 PM
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8. Yeah, the IRS can suck. We fought with them for 6 years over the
Edited on Fri Mar-30-07 09:30 PM by QMPMom
taxes on my Grandmother's Estate.

My Grandfather, who died in 1976, forgot to report $2000 of income in the early 70's. He died. Will was probated and all went to my Grandmother - inheritance tax was paid.

Grandma died in 1979. We 6 grandkids inherit. It was a very large Estate and the IRS opened up my GRANDFATHER'S old tax files, found the absent $2000 and went after it. The missed it initially when Grandpa's will was probated in 1976.

We fought it with attorneys, accountants that had been former IRS agents and LOTS of money because we thought it was probably not Kosher to open an old file that had been probated and the taxes paid on it in 1976. Wrong! Finally, in 1985, we agreed to settle with them. Each Grandkid paid approximately $10,000 to the IRS just to shut them the hell up. Over a lousy error in the non-reporting of $2000 approximately 10 years before.

Let me amend my hatred: I have Revenue Canada and the Internal Revenue Agency.
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ncabot22 Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 01:34 AM
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18. So essentially...
the grandkids had to pay a total of $60,000 on an old $2,000 tax bill? Insane! I've heard that lotteries are taxed as income in the States as well. Don't know if it is true, but that is what I have heard. How can a lottery be income?

Again, I'm sorry about Canada Revenue. :(
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QMPMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 02:40 AM
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21. Yes, lottery winnings in some states is considered earnings and
is taxed. My Dad won $116,000.00 on Hoosier Millionaire and paid a whole whack of income tax on it.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 11:51 AM
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25. That's surprising. I thought there was a statue of limitations on the IRS
namely that they have to catch you in six years. (That's why you don't need to keep your old tax returns past six years.)
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QMPMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-31-07 10:21 PM
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27. That was one of the issues that was fought - apparently the error ocurred
in 1972 or 1973, I can't remember any more. Grandpa died in 1976 and Grandma in 1979, so it very well could have been within the 6 year limit.
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:18 PM
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3. Oh, crud
I'm sorry, QMPMom. :hug:

Was it a mixup on the preparer's side?
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QMPMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:22 PM
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4. Nope.
I understand how and why it happened, but it still pisses me off.

Grrrr.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:28 PM
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7. Hey, that sounds almost like Amerikkker.
:P
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 10:19 PM
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13. Can we drop the bit about spelling "America" with the Ks, please? That's pretty old;
Edited on Fri Mar-30-07 10:19 PM by Redstone
I've been seeing it since the 1960s. It's lost its punch, trust me.

Redstone
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QMPMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:38 PM
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10. My Mantra: I am not going to worry about it. I am not going to
worry about it. I am not going to worry about it...........

Visualizing pretty sunsets in my mind.......

I am not going to worry about it.............

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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 09:55 PM
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11. They used to be Revenue Canada
then they were the Canadian Customs and Revenue Agency, now they are the Canadian Revenue Agency; I guy I know who works in their forensic audit investigative unit says most people just call them "those bastards".

BTW he says if you are being audited and the auditor suddenly stands up and says, "that's all, I have to go now", be very afraid.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-30-07 10:00 PM
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12. can we trade health care systems???
You take ours and I will pay your $520 tax.

:hi:
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