The Doors suck

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

A crappy "poet" and a bunch of second rate musicians.

Discuss...

[VelmaD]

1. Don't make me...

take you outside and flog you with a limp noodle.

Morrison was a hottie. No one on earth has ever looked better in leather pants. :evilgrin: Well, before he got fat anyway.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

4. Heterosexual women love the doors and why not?

Artists? Meh

[Madspirit]

42. Lesbian here

...and I love The Doors and what does sexual orientation have to do with hit?
Lee

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

43. Many heterosexual women find Jim Morrison attractive

That's what I'm saying

[Madspirit]

44. Once again...Lesbian here

Great poet.
Great music.
Sick little mind on Morrison...which I love. I hate "plastic"....and I'm 53.

I could listen to The Doors all the time.

Don't make sexist assumptions. It's not allowed here and I actually know more guys from my era...hippies...who like The Doors than women of any orientation.
Lee

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

45. It's a fact - many women are attracted to Jim Morrison

I'm not making any political "assumptions" or anything.

[Madspirit]

46. It's a sexist assumption unless you can back it

With many double-blind surveys, studies, tests, papers, articles, etc. Otherwise it's a personal assumption on your part and it is sexist. It is the very definition of a sexist assumption. That is what that means. You are assuming something based on a person's sex. That is the actual definition.
Lee

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

47. What?

I just said that many women find Jim Morrison attractive - what the hell is wrong with that?

[Madspirit]

51. You are stating it as a definitive

When it's really an assumption on your part. I know more guys who like The Doors than women. See, I said, "I know". I didn't state it as a general fact. I stated it as personal observation of my world.
Lee

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

54. I really don't see why you're so worked up over this

A lot of women find Jim Morrison attractive - many of them heterosexual - there's nothing wrong with that. I know far more dorky men who like the doors than women but, in my experience, women say that think Jim Morrison is hot - if they like the Doors or not.

[Madspirit]

59. Hottieness

Ahh...well I didn't know you were just commenting on hottiness. I'm a lesbian and I think Jim Morrison is kind of hot. I know gay guys who think he is hot. I know straight women who think he is hot. I thought you were talking about liking the Group The Doors.
Lee

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

60. I kind of was

I have had many conversations with straight women who have told me that they liked the Doors because Jim Morrison is hot. I am sure you can find men and women who will say the same.

I was cracking a joke about how artistically crappy the doors are.

[Madspirit]

64. Truth

I was just giving you a hard time because you don't like The Doors. They are one of my all time favorite groups. I like Morrison's sick and twisted mind.
Lee

[HEyHEY]

72. Sick and twisted mind? More like underdeveloped and boring

[HEyHEY]

71. What are you? A specifist?

Jesus H. Christ. So the guy has met alot of girls who think Jim Morrison is attractive. And so he said "Women think he's attractive."
There's no sexisim or anything in there. If we lived by your rules no one would ever say anything for fear of not getting the numbers right.

[Maraya1969]

2. Discuss? I love the Doors. End of discussion.

:hi:

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. They do not.

The only thing is, you have to be really stoned in order to appreciate them. Or really old, like me; and reminiscing about being really stoned and listening to the Doors.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

6. I hate that "you have to be stoned to appreciate" argument

I am a deadhead and have been stoned and tripping when I've listened to them - that was a long time ago and I love them more now. The doors were just LA crap.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. Whatever. That's the only way I ever listened to them.

I think the Dead suck. So there.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

10. Nope

Thanks for the offer though

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. And the Eagles suck, too.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

15. The eagles suck almost as much as Phil Collins Genesis

But not quite

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

18. I do agree with you on this point.

I get into arguments with my sister-in-law about the suckiness of the Eagles, which she contends is the greatest band ever.


Chicago sucks as well.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

29. Any band named after a geographic area sucks

Chicago, Kansas, Boston, Europe, Asia...

[Alexander]

93. You hate the band Boston???

:wow:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

68. Early bluesy Chicago was kick-ass.

I love "Make Me Smile," for example.

After about the 6th album of naming albums after themselves, however, the band got old and sucky.

[Joe Fields]

98. Chicago used to be GREAT! Their version of "I'm a Man" would

cause the dead to get up and dance. The searing guitar work, and precise percussion, plus the vocals make it one of my all-time favorite songs.

[Tektonik]

41. agreed

the Grateful Dead are terrible

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

52. That's a sexist statement unless you can back it up with a trieple blind study

:eyes:


see above

[WritingIsMyReligion]

67. The Dead kick ass.

Holy shit, if I were a tripper, I'd to it to the Dead. But one not even need be stoned/high/whatever to dig that guitar.

[HEyHEY]

9. Yeah, cause your appreciation of quality goes down when you're wasted.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

11. Are you living proof?

:P

[HEyHEY]

20. Yeah. It's how I get work/girls/compliments

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

25. Then rock on gold dust woman

[CanuckAmok]

80. You have to be stoned to appreciate "Combos", too,

and they suck.



Ipso FATso, the Doors suck.

[HEyHEY]

5. Yes, they do suck. A whole bunch

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

7. A whole buncha bunch.

[asthmaticeog]

13. Fuckin' wankers weren't fit to shine the Velvets' shoes.

Or to lick the shit off the soles of 'em, for that matter.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

19. That's what I'm saying

The Zombies make them look like the Weavers

[wildhorses]

14. second to whom?

:shrug:

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

16. Musicians who play well

[wildhorses]

27. people are strange

no accounting for taste i suppose

[HEyHEY]

26. Losers at starbucks

[wildhorses]

32. well let me say that

jim morrison is one star
that i would like to buck

:blush:

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

36. that does not mean that the music was good

[wildhorses]

38. i guess it just means

that i would buck a star

and oh yeah...the doors could be the background music while i was bucking that star:bounce:

[rbnyc]

17. I really can't stand Jim Morrison!

I'm with you.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

21. He was hot, though; at least until he got all pudgy and drug-addled.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

23. Jesisca Simpson is hot too

And about as creative

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

28. Jessica Simpson isn't hot; she's skanky.

Although being a person of the female persuasion I might not be in a position to judge her "hotness" accurately. But Morrison was definitely hot.

And if your audience is mostly stoned females, you can get away with a lot. I'll always like the Doors, maybe for no good reason. Even though I was a music major.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

30. I'll give them this

The End is a great song. But it might be because my favorite film is Apocalyse Now.

[rbnyc]

34. He was a poser. He was a type.

I wouldn't have gone for him.

;-)

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

22. He's the 60's version of Vanilla Ice

[rbnyc]

31. LMFAO A.D.L.

All Day Long!!

[tigereye]

53. nah, they were better than vanilla Ice, c,mon now

Morrison was a pretty electric performer, and the organ player had some great jazz and classical chops.

so they should get a little credit.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

57. Ray Manzarek was the best in the group

And considering that he also played the basslines it is unfair for me to judge them so harshly. But it is so much fun to do so. :evilgrin:

[tigereye]

61. tsk, tsk, you trouble maker

:hi:

what's up - doing anything fun this weekend?

please say hi to S for me!

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

63. Working - S is at home for Easter

Hope you guys are rocking out on PA

[SPKrazy]

24. ooooh!

that isn't nice :mad:

no it's not!


:mad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbxIWBITQ6A

take that! (edited to add link)

[GenDem]

33. I respectfully, disagree

While they're not my favorite band from that era, they made their mark. I don't think Jim Morrison had the greatest voice, but his music has it's place.

And, besides, he was hot in those black leather pants -- pre beard and extra poundage, that is.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

35. I find that women often feel this way

No offense

[GenDem]

37. You make a good point.

[last_texas_dem]

39. No, they don't.

[Tektonik]

40. i don't care for the Doors

but I wouldn't say they sucked

[Bassic]

48. No they don't

:P They fucking rocked.

[jpgray]

49. Yep. John Densmore and Robbie Krieger are moderately talented though

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

55. To be fair I have always liked Ray Manzarek

But that's probably because I am an amatuer keyboardist

[jpgray]

56. I suck completely at the keyboards

But they are fun to play. :cry:

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

58. iudhiushp asihisd hadfuhasighiasdu - look aT ME GO

you can do it to

UHWSAUIiyaguygwk3rt1837yr9lioubn ! Woohoo!

[dajoki]

50. Well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion...

on this subject, mine is totall opposite of yours.

Let's swim to the moon, uh huh
Let's climb through the tide
Penetrate the evenin' that the
City sleeps to hide
Let's swim out tonight, love
It's our turn to try
Parked beside the ocean
On our moonlight drive

Let's swim to the moon, uh huh
Let's climb through the tide
Surrender to the waiting worlds
That lap against our side

Nothin' left open
And no time to decide
We've stepped into a river
On our moonlight drive

Let's swim to the moon
Let's climb through the tide
You reach your hand to hold me
But I can't be your guide

Easy, I love you
As I watch you glide
Falling through wet forests
On our moonlight drive, baby
Moonlight drive

Come on, baby, gonna take a little ride
Down, down by the ocean side
Gonna get real close
Get real tight
Baby gonna drown tonight
Goin' down, down, down

[darkstar]

62. Not the biggest fan here either, but

they did provide me w/ a pivotal experience as a kid I will never forget. Namely being home sick from school and hearing the long version of Light My Fire. When the guitar solo kicked in, it really transported me. Then I look for moments elsewhere. I didn't so much find it in their catalog, but I did find it in Dead songs such a Playin' that, when executed well, have that perfect sense of slippage and stepping off into some void. Just my personal tastes of course, but that Doors moment is conjured every time I hear the long version on the radio....

[mvd]

65. They rock

I don't know if I'd go as far as saying they are one of my 10 favs, but for me, there's a lot of competition in classic rock. A lot of great bands would have to be excluded. And the Eagles and Phil Collins Genesis rock, too. :P

[WritingIsMyReligion]

66. No, Nickelback sucks. Or KISS. Or any death metal band.

"Light My Fire" is sweet.

[mvd]

69. Have to agree with you there

:hi:

[eauclaireliberal]

78. I could NEVER understand the appeal of KISS

Gene's politics aside, they suck. "I was made for loving you baby" is okay but not enough to buy their crap.

[Left Is Write]

88. I Was Made For Lovin' You actually got them roundly criticized when it came out....

for succumbing to the influences of the disco era.

[eauclaireliberal]

92. Yeah, go figure.

For some reason I thought about that disco-record burning riot at Comiskey park in the 70's...the one where Steve Dahl got fired after announcing cheap admission to a sox game in return for vinyl to be burned.

[wildhorses]

70. so...like...i was 14 ya know and a freshman in high school. it was

september and school had just started. it was early morning and pouring rain, really coming down in sheets and thunder and lightning, just a totally awesome storm. every morning before homeroom we would get off the bus and gather in the cafeteria and hang out. i was the new girl you see, an observer, kinda shy and quiet (i was always the new girl but, THAT is another story for another time)

anyway, the audio club had started a radio station wcsh and they were spinning the usual rock and roll when the bell rang for homeroom. everybody started piling out in groups of 3 and 4 with the ocassional couple to be seen with him carrying her books (remember that?)

as the crowd thins out the floor to ceiling cafeteria windows reveal the thunderstorm in all its torrential glory...the dj lets go with a song i had never heard before. i stood frozen at the window mesmerized the music and nature became one and i with it. i was late to homeroom that morning...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHByky1i8uE

Riders on the storm
Riders on the storm
Into this house were born
Into this world were thrown
Like a dog without a bone
An actor out on loan
Riders on the storm

Theres a killer on the road
His brain is squirmin like a toad
Take a long holiday
Let your children play
If ya give this man a ride
Sweet memory will die
Killer on the road, yeah

Girl ya gotta love your man
Girl ya gotta love your man
Take him by the hand
Make him understand
The world on you depends
Our life will never end
Gotta love your man, yeah

Riders on the storm
Riders on the storm
Into this house were born
Into this world were thrown
Like a dog without a bone
An actor out alone
Riders on the storm

Riders on the storm
Riders on the storm
Riders on the storm
Riders on the storm
Riders on the storm

and because of that one moment in space and time i will always like the doors:patriot:

[cwydro]

81. Great post wildwoman...

I have a similar memory of first hearing that song. It still can give me the creeps when I hear it late at night driving alone.

[wildhorses]

85. it captures the magical mysterious essence of a storm

perfectly :hug:

it exhilarated and entranced me.

i dunno, i guess ya had to be 14 at the time:shrug:

[cwydro]

89. Yeah,

I heard it when I was pretty young too.

Great song.

[GenDem]

82. Your description of that memory....

made me feel like I experienced it, too!!!

Thanks, wildhorses!:hug:

[wildhorses]

86. ---

:blush:


:hug:


:hi:

[SPKrazy]

95. Wow,

very cool wild horsey

I am moved by the coolness of that post, really. I know you said the song had changed your life, and I'm glad to get to read the story of that moment for you.

:hug:

I like the doors, and I can't say I have a good story about why like you do.

:applause:

[Downtown Hound]

73. I was eighteen 22 years after Morrison died

and I had a total obsession with everything The Doors. I read every book ever written about them, listened to their albums constantly, and even modeled my hair after Morrison's. That should tell you something about the power of that band, that they could still pull people in long after they disappeared from the charts. I've long since gotten over my obsession with them but I still find their music to be very unique, creative, powerful, and haunting.

A great band in every sense, though perhaps not for everyone. If you don't like 'em, then that's cool.

[TnDem]

74. Damn right....

The most overrated band in the last 30 years.

Stoned and nonsensical in all senses. Even their OK tracks are simplistic and like King Lear.

Bullshit band that should have died in their first year.

[eauclaireliberal]

75. Forget the Doors, The Who sucked the most

Which is a shame-all four lads were very talented musicians, they just couldn't write anything catchy. "Pinball Wizard?" "Won't Get Fooled Again?" Gimme a break, it is about as noteworthy as anything by GG Allin. The Doors have several tunes that get stuck in my mind. "Hello I love You" "L.A. Woman" are my faves.

However, I do like Eminence Front....that song kicked ass.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=URFbwUkBrjA

[mvd]

76. I love The Who

In fact, I think all of these are worthy: The Who, The Doors, Queen, The Eagles, Aerosmith..

I'm a supporter of classic rock, and will just say that tastes differ. What you think isn't catchy, I find quite catchy.

[wildhorses]

77. hey---

the kids are all right:hi:

[Blue-Jay]

79. .

[Giant Robot]

83. Don't see much to discuss

You hit all the critical points in your OP. Oh yes, and it was more about Jim's hotness and charisma than his "poetry," you probably should have said that up there too.


...So that's what Jessica Simpson would be like if she were male and alive in the 60's.

[Roon]

84. My foster kitty is named Morrison

Named after Jim. By a lesbian.

[Dervill Crow]

87. I only bought one of their albums, and that was for 25 cents at a flea market.

I guess that means I wasn't a fan, either, but there were many much suckier groups than the Doors.

[Gatchaman]

90. Jim Morrison is incredibly overrated

As I said in the other Doors thread, I was (and still am, really) a huge Doors fan, but I've never been an acolyte in the Cult of Jim. Yes, I bought the biography, and the book of poetry (which sucked), but the Doors were more than just Jim Morrison's backing band.

[LSK]

91. is this the new Olive Garden?

:shrug:

[Burma Jones]

94. Chavez indeed speaks the truth

Never was so much hyped by so many about so little.......

[Philosoraptor]

96. Coltrane is tedious & tiresome, endless, masturbatory jazz noodling.

just saying.

[Joe Fields]

97. That is your opinion. It is one I do not share.

Question.

How old are you?

Were you there when the Doors broke into the music scene, and old enough to appreciate their social significance?

[WeRQ4U]

99. Yes, my friend, they do suck...

And suck hard.

[kwassa]

100. Morrison was one of the best vocalists in rock.

A great singing voice. One of my absolute favorites. The first album was excellent.

The Doors were also a unique band with their own unique sound, which is very hard to find in the highly repetitive and clone-like world of rock.

I think they went depressingly commercial late in their career, but they were on their downward druggy slide.

"Hello, I Love You" is embarrassing.

[edbermac]

101. Someone hasn't been working and playing well with others.

You've been a bad boy...:spank:

[Deep13]

102. That's it! This is the end, my friend!

You've really lit my fire now! Don't make me break on through to the other side, be cause if I do, there will be nothing left to do but run, run, run.