Ok who watched The Sopranos tonight?****possible spoiler alert****

[AlCzervik]

ok i was wrong about Syl being the rat but holy shit for the rest of it and my wish that tey kill everyone so there will never be a movie looks like it might just happen.

[bigwillq]

1. I am at work so I didn't watch

I will watch it ONDemand tomm.. but I kind of want to be spoiled.

[AlCzervik]

2. i don't won't to ruin it for you.

[bigwillq]

4. Fair enough.

Now I can't wait to watch it.

[THUNDER HANDS]

3. oh my

what an episode. Nobody spoil it for those who haven't seen it. You don't want to know what happens.

[RubyDuby in GA]

7. There is a spoiler alert

I have to go somewhere. I'm the only one in my house that watches it.

I've seen every episode. Ever. And I was wanting to scream out 'OH MY GOD" but I would wake the baby...

[AlCzervik]

9. i was covering my eyes, could not believe it.

:wow:

[RubyDuby in GA]

12. I am so keyed up right now. It got my adrenaline going.

The mad dash home to get his family out. Whoa.

[LibraLiz1973]

27. Me too!! My adrenaline is pumping!

From a TV show!!!!!!

[RubyDuby in GA]

31. I had my little one who turns 1 on Tuesday laying sound asleep next to me

It was all I could do when I shot up when they whacked Bobby not to wake him. Then with Silvio - I was covering my mouth!

I guess I'm blind, but I totally didn't seeing it going that way until Italy screwed up their hit.

[LibraLiz1973]

35. When Italy fucked it up I was screaming at the tv

Especially when they were talking to the guy in the porn store. It was so OBVIOUS they had gotten it wrong- but that dumb shit just kept saying whatever!

[RubyDuby in GA]

I know. Like the boss of New York is going to speak Ukranian?!?!? WTF?!?!?!

[misanthrope]

74. Ironically, I had to wonder...

...were Chrissie still alive, would he have screwed the hit up that badly?

Of course, Tony and Sil admitted they had no chance to get Phil because went "to the ground" so early.

[Reverend_Smitty]

79. Maybe the producers were making a statement against outsourcing

lol...but seriously what a brilliant fucking episode! Last season was only so-so but they have really stepped up their game with this year's installment. I can't wait to see how it all ends...the way they are setting it up, it is probably going to be one of the greatest series finales ever...I'm so excited!

Did anyone notice that they were playing "The End" by The Doors in the Bing right before all that shit went down?

[misanthrope]

82. I thought that was "Moonlight Drive."**nm

**

[Reverend_Smitty]

83. was it?

I have to go back and watch the episode...maybe I was trying to read too much into the episode and thought I heard it lol

[misanthrope]

84. I wondered as much too...

...half-expecting it to be "The End" but after a couple of measures realized it wasn't. It's either "Moonlight Drive" or "When the Music's Over."

[Mz Pip]

98. When the Music's Over

turn out the lights. I noticed that too.

The music is your only friend
until the end. Until the end.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[RubyDuby in GA]

5. Holy shit. If Tony Soprano walked out of my tv and slapped me - I couldn't have been more surprised

Bobby??? That was just wrong.

No More Hiding.

[AlCzervik]

8. that was a message to Tony, a big one.

[mudesi]

6. One more episode

I'll miss this show.

[dysfunctional press]

10. ...wow...!

just...wow...!

(the show, not your post)

[GenDem]

11. WOW

Unbelievable. That scene in the train store. I'm stunned and totally shocked. :wow:

[AlCzervik]

13. for real.

the sheer number, yeah that was a message.

[RevCheesehead]

14. I missed the first 5 minutes...

what was the set-up? Why did Phil go into hiding?

And: is Dr. Melfi going to blame herself for what happens/happened?

[RubyDuby in GA]

16. Phil -

They called Italy to come over and hit Phil, but the idiots got the wrong people. Phil went underground.

[AndreaCG]

21. Did that happen once before

That the wrong guy got whacked by foreigners?

[RevCheesehead]

23. Yeah, thanks... I saw that part.

Did they show anything in the opener about Phil going underground? Or was that supposed to be a surprise for us, too?

Sheesh... I'm wiped out. But I'm still gonna watch the show on HBO-West.

[RubyDuby in GA]

25. I don't think its implied in the first 5 minutes. Phil orders his guys to

take out the Soprano crew. He just gets up from the table and says something like make it happen.

[AlCzervik]

29. i think that as well, them killing the wrong guy was the catalyst.

i thought we were going to see a Scosese death montage ala Goodfellas.

[AndreaCG]

15. Did Paulie say Syl wasn't likely to regain consciousness?

I thought he did but not certain.

[AlCzervik]

17. yes.

[RevCheesehead]

18. Yes.

:( I liked Syl.

[AlCzervik]

20. me too, it ain't over yet though.

[RubyDuby in GA]

19. Yep. n/t

[RubyDuby in GA]

22. Tony and Paulie (and possible Patsy) are the only ones left

I believe the proverbial shit will hit the proverbial fan next week.
This totally sucks that its over.

[RevCheesehead]

24. I think Tony's gonna die,...

and return to the hotel/house in his dream, to be greeted by all of the guys.

[AlCzervik]

26. and go out like Tony Montana in Scarface.

[RubyDuby in GA]

28. I really made myself not think of possible endings, but I think you're right

I really think he's going to get hit next week.

Damn. Next thing you know, JK Rowling will kill off Harry too. My whole summer will be ruined :)

[RevCheesehead]

30. Look on the bright side...

Phil might still get whacked. :)

[AlCzervik]

32. lol! He'll always be Billy Batts to me.

[libnnc]

80. Now go get your fu@#ing shine box!!!

Yep Billy Batts. :D

[RubyDuby in GA]

34. There's hope!

:)

[LibraLiz1973]

33. Pardon my french but

THAT EPISODE WAS FUCKING INSANE!!!

In a good way. ALOT happened. I was shocked by Bobby's death- and the brutality of it. And then the attempted hit on Syl. I know they said he probably wont wake up but a girl can hope right?
I love Syl!

I guess the only way out of the show is to kill Tony... but god I hope not

[RevCheesehead]

36. OR ...

Tony ends up a near vegetable, and moves into the same hospital as Uncle Jun. They could be roommates.

[AlCzervik]

37. and Tony is also out of money so it's off to the stae run "Snake pit" with him as well.

or better yet they both have hosital beds moved into the living room of Janices house and kills them and then herself.

[RevCheesehead]

40. Oooh!

If Janice gets whacked, I'll cheer. Even if she does it to herself.

[RubyDuby in GA]

38. I'll pardon yours if you pardon mine - they were rocking the shit in that one!

If you're gonna go, you may as well go out with a bang! But damn!

Is it really over??? :(

[Bake]

96. I tried to count the number of shots fired into Bobby.

This was on the second watch of the episode, of course! I think it was TWENTY TWO. TWENTY TWO freakin' bullets in Bobby.

The train wreck was perfect.

Helluvanepisode!!

Bake

[RevCheesehead]

39. Next week, I have to be at a conference...

I sure hope the hotel gets HBO.

Unfortunately, I don't have a laptop, so I can't check in with you guys. :(

[RubyDuby in GA]

41. Oh no! I'd call ahead and find 3 possible locations that have HBO in the vicinity

but I'm a little weird like that!

[RevCheesehead]

42. I'm pretty sure they have it at the Radisson.

If not, there's bound to be a restaurant or bar with the show on.
Come to think of it, that could be fun!

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

43. The Melfi-Tony break-up

Was kind of brutal as well. Emotionally brutal.

[RevCheesehead]

46. Oh! I was SOOOOO pissed at Elliot!!

How DARE he violate a sacred trust!!!! :grr:

[GenDem]

47. That was so wrong

And look how Melfi completely caved. It was a memorable scene when Tony whipped out the steak recipe and stuck it back in the magazine.

[RevCheesehead]

48. So, at his (Tony's) funeral, will she put the article in his casket?

That would be a memorable closer.

[GenDem]

50. Oh yeah

That it would.

I was actually a bit worried that Tony was going to lose his temper with Dr Melfi and put her in a choke hold or something -- kind of like he lost it with AJ in the bedroom.

[LibraLiz1973]

94. It was SO profesionally wrong

and I was very dissapointed that Dr. Melfi took that shit.
I would have left- and I certainly would not be seeing him as a therapist anymore.

[RevCheesehead]

95. Exactly!

She should have walked out, take a breath, and realize that her buttons were getting pushed, big time.

Tony got it right when he told her, "you know, as a doctor, I think what you're doing is immoral."

[GenDem]

44. You know it's over

when Dr. Melfi kicks Tony to the curb.

:cry:

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

45. I think Tony and Melfi will live

Those are the two most important characters to keep around if they ever want to do a movie. The rest are expendable.

[dancingme]

49. Why didn't they call Furio??

Furio would have done the job correctly!

[AndreaCG]

54. Furio's feeding the fishies

[misanthrope]

71. I don't remember that ever being established...

...Tony sent Furio back to Italy before Carmela revealed her feelings for him.

[driver8]

85. When did that happen? I don't remember Furio being killed? n/t

[AndreaCG]

102. I saw speculation that Tony could trace Furio in Italy

And off him. It would make sense cause I think Tony would kill anyone even peripherally involved with Carm. She as much as said so to the guy she did sleep with.

It may not have happened though.

[Kingofalldems]

51. Will Tony flip?

Will he see that there is no other way out? He has a friend in the FBI who keeps popping up.

[GenDem]

52. hmmmm

The FBI dude gave him the tip. They've been pretty chummy this season, haven't they?

[AlCzervik]

53. that be the ultimate betrayal imo but maybe his only way out.

[RevCheesehead]

55. So he'd rat out Phil?

Sweet. :evilgrin:

[AlCzervik]

57. it's possible, after tonight i think anything is. I can't wait until next week but on the other

hand i am really going to miss the show but on the 3rd hand (whaaaa?) i really don't want to see a movie, i need it done, really done, all doors closed and no open windows.

[RevCheesehead]

58. Honestly, I think the producers think the same way.

No movie, no sequel, no "next generation".

[GenDem]

66. I understand their thoughts on preserving the shows integrity

but it's all about 'me' at this point, and I just don't want to say good-by forever to these characters that I have come to love. :cry:

[GenDem]

65. And live happily ever after in witness protection.

Fulfilling the dream sequence he had while in the coma -- the regular salesman guy, stuck in a strange city, and missing and wanting to get back to the family that he loves and is so devoted to. His struggle between living the gangster life and being the regular family guy would finally be over.
Awwww. I like that ending. I've always pulled for Tony to go straight.

[misanthrope]

72. Tony can't do that...

...live happily ever after, that is. He is a Soprano and a sociopath. That parallel life while in limbo was a guy who had a completely different upbringing, set of parents and genetic predisposition.

For Tony, the die were cast a long time ago, just like like with his sociopathic sister Janice.

[Wapsie B]

75. I can see Agent Harris saving Tony's ass somehow.

Either by having Tony flip or foiling a hit on him, maybe taking out one of Phil's guys in the process. God is the final only an hour long? I hope not.

[mcscajun]

100. The run time next week is: 65 min

Most of the eps haven't been a full hour long, this one might be; after all, they still need time for the credits. :)

[bdamomma]

88. that would be interesting spilling the beans on one mob boss

to save Tony's own life. Unbelieveable story last nite, 2 got whacked already.

[AndreaCG]

56. That's one way to keep the show alive for a movie

Probably the only plausible one, come to think about it.

[Kingofalldems]

59. A question from a fairly new Sopranos watcher

Who killed Big Pussy and why?

[AlCzervik]

60. Paulie, Sly and Tony and they thought he was a rat.

[Kingofalldems]

61. Thanks. Was he?

[AlCzervik]

63. he was.

[RevCheesehead]

62. He was a rat.

[misanthrope]

70. Sal "Big Pussy" Bompansiero (sp?)...

...was one of Tony's oldest friends in the family and captain of one of Tony's crews. He was pinched by the feds for moving "H" (heroin) and they put the squeeze on him to turn evidence or do time in a federal pen. Pussy turned.

Word came back to Tony through a crooked cop that there was a rat loose in the family. At one point it looked like the family made Pussy but they zeroed in on another guy as the rat and Sil whacked him.

Pussy developed Stockholm syndrome, going through a phase where he was acting like a "Jr. G-Man," had a wreck while following Christopher to a boost and got in trouble with his contact agent. The agent underscored to Pussy that there was no way he could parlay his informant role into skipping jail, that he would testify, serve a reduced sentence, then go into relocation.

At this point, Pussy started realizing he was in a no-win situation.

Tony became suspicious but wouldn't admit Pussy's complicity to himself until his dreams started screaming it to him so loudly he could no longer ignore it. Tony, Paulie and Sil took Pussy out on a boat Tony was looking at, shot him below deck and dumped him into the drink.

It haunted Tony for a while.

[Bunny]

91. Fuckin' vindaloo!!!!!

Remember Tony had food poisoning the night he dreamed about Pussy? He had eaten Indian food and became violently ill. I remember him screaming 'fuckin' vindaloo!!!' as he was bent over the toilet, heaving his guts out. That was funny!

[Kingofalldems]

64. By the way, AJ is annoying as hell

He absolutely drains the energy out of the room.

[AndreaCG]

69. I think they're portraying the depression realistically enough

I'm in the middle of one myself and since I'm not a teenager I'm maybe a little less self absorbed but think of how scary it would be to be told you literally have to run for your life when you're barely coping as it is.

[bdamomma]

89. AJ has some problems

but I hope nothing happens to him or Meadow.

[GenDem]

67. Were they raiding Carmella's cupboards for canned goods?

Just before they went into hiding.
What was that all about?

[misanthrope]

73. They're going to the mattresses...

...It's time for a war and they're breaking out the siege mentality.

[kwassa]

68. Prediction:Tony gets whacked, AJ kills Leotardo

I have no idea what is going to happen, I just thought I would make this prediction.

I liked Bobby! I've noticed that they've made his character smarter and smarter over the seasons, he doesn't seem under Janice's thumb so much.

Great episode, I was on the edge of my seat.

[Morrisons Ghost]

93. How

Would AJ do that? He has to get his ass out of bed first.Whoever said it in this thread was right the actor playing AJ has depression nailed

[Wapsie B]

76. Bobby getting clipped took me by suprise.

Syl too. I hope the final is a two-hour show. But I don't see Tony surviving if he doesn't flip. I could see AJ getting into the business to avenge Tony's death if Tony buys the farm.

[libnnc]

77. Is next week's going to be an hour show?

How can they wrap this up in just one hour?

[mcscajun]

101. Next week's run time: 65 minutes.

No two-hour ending.

[misanthrope]

78. !Spoilers within! David Chase is more honest...

... about all of this than many of the fans are.

Chase realizes, foremost, these guys are monsters. The beauty of the show is that he has drawn us into them but still never lets us forget--if we choose to look--how horrific they actually are.

Chase also knows there are only so many possible outcomes for these type guys and none are really good. You go to jail or you die, that's about it. Sometimes both.

A couple of things about tonight's show:

One, I found Janice's grief hard to stomach coming from a woman as twisted as she, someone who was as cognizant of the whole scenario, as eager to manipulate it as anyone else in the family. This is the woman who shot Richie Aprille at point blank range at the table one night. Deep down, she's as cold as any other character on the show.

Two, I found it hard to believe Sil and Patsy were caught as unawares as they were while leaving the Bing. I would have thought in that situation, they would been in all out paranoid mode, armed to the teeth and ready to plug anything that cropped up.

Three, I'm amazed no one else caught a bullet in the train store. Poor stupid Bobby.

Something like this always brings mixed feelings for fans. You enjoy good storytelling and love the suspense and drama and well fleshed out characters, but at the same time there's a relief inside that the story is reaching the finale of its arc. Ultimately, we always want to know the end. Resolution is always bittersweet satisfaction.

There was a real sad quality to the dinner scene where Tony and Sil start slow motion boxing to the music from Raging Bull, a movie that was as softly tragic as anything Scorsese ever did where no one died in its course. You could really feel at that point the end was near.

It's been fun for sure.

[Shakespeare]

81. I'm surprised that anyone's surprised about the hits tonight.

They totally telegraphed it at the beginning: Phil and his goons discussed who runs the family, said it's Tony, Sil and Bobby, and Phil gave the order to "decapitate." From that point on, I was just waiting for when. The camerawork in the train store was brilliant (but again, no surprise that's where Bobby got whacked), and you knew Sil was next. 'Cause they told us who they were going to hit.

Even last week's weird scene with the disembodied Phil yelling at Tony from inside his house was a big hint that Phil was going into hiding, and that usually only means one thing (turf war, the boss lays low).

Excellent, excellent show.

[dancingme]

86. if both sides are hiding

how do they kill the other side? Who goes outside first?

[Shakespeare]

92. Phil's side went into hiding first.

Tony's side screwed up the hit on Phil, and was left scrambling when the other side went into action, then down goes Bobby, down goes Sil.

[Bunny]

87. Whoa! That was intense!

I could have guessed that Bobby would get whacked, but seeing Syl get hit was tough. I really liked that little sociopath!

[bdamomma]

90. Bobby left his phone in the car, when Tony told everyone

that they must be informed, unfortunate for Bobby, brutal murder scene, and Syl that was bad too. Now the finale is coming up I wonder if Tony will be eliminated, well, I guess they won't have a Sopranos reunion show.

[Bake]

97. QUESTION: What did Tony mean by his rant to Janice?

"You're husband, Janice, exile on main street!" I know it's a Stones title, but what did Tony mean? That was before Bobby got hit.

And yes, it looks like only ONE hour next week. Damn!

Bake

[yurbud]

99. Melfi's change of heart was too last minute--like Tony's gambling habit