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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:28 AM
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do you think we value pathologizing ourselves as a cultural trait?
or is it a side effect of pharmaceutical company marketing schemes and the therapy movement?

it seems like way too many things are diseases or disorders lately.

i wonder if having one form of affliction or other is going to become necessary for proper identity formation in the future.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:39 AM
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1. It's fuckin' bizarre, isn't it? Self-identification through disease.
:eyes:

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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:40 AM
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2. SOOOOO many convalescents among us
i had to undo years of therapy mindfucking to get to a point where i could view reality for what it is, rather than through the lens of victimization.

i have the teddy bear to prove it.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:41 AM
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3. The price we pay in our quest for perfection
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:43 AM
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4. but nothing can be perfect
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 08:44 AM by datasuspect
"self-improvement is masturbation"









and i think there can be meaningful self-improvement, but medicated compartmentalization of coming to terms with what mommy and daddy did to you is not the route to it.
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BarenakedLady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:58 AM
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6. My Effexor
...tells me to kill you.




;)
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:05 AM
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7. i always wanted to start a death metal band called effexor
but with umlauts over the "O" and two crossed lightning bolts for the "X"
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:15 AM
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11. Woah! Casper the friendly kitty!
:-)
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:13 AM
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9. "medicated compartmentalization" ?
:shrug:
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 08:50 AM
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5. Why do you hate the medical-industrial complex? nt
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:05 AM
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12. He probably has industromediphobiitis
He should start with 10 mcg of lithium or maybe 20 mg of fluoxetine. That's what worked for me...
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:11 AM
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13. lithium? fluoxetine?
strictly amateur hour.

gimme some good old haldol and EST! but keep the cogentin on standby. last time i took haldol, i broke out with tardive dyskinesia.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:18 AM
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14. Are you sure it's amateur? 'Cause I saw a commercial on TV where
fluoxetine made everything in the person's life magically better...

I had to look up the tardive dyskinesia, but according to Wikipedia (:eyes:) a possible treatment is Ecstasy... :)
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:19 AM
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15. restraints
restraints. that's the way to go.

psychiatric terrorism baby!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:12 AM
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8. Hard to respond without some examples.
:shrug:
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 09:14 AM
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10. i strove to keep it very general
i don't want to stir up any constituencies.
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pagerbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:29 AM
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16. Make up an ailment, give it initials, create a placebo--you're rich!
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Connonym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 10:37 AM
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17. At the same time don't be too dismissive of other people's problems
I agree that the drug companies are too aggressive targeting consumers but that doesn't invalidate the need for some of the medications they hawk. But it's really self-righteous to judge if you haven't walked in the shoes of a person with bipolar or diabetes or restless leg syndrome (yeah people love to laugh about that one but you wouldn't be laughing if your legs constantly twitched at night preventing you from achieving deep sleep and resulting in your being chronically tired)who is helped by medications such as these.

Mock my Prozac all you want but hate the maker don't hate the user. I'm convinced I would have committed suicide without it. I have enough relatives who suffered (and died) from severe chronic depression before these meds came along.

Aw fuck it, hate on the people who use them as well. I don't really care because I know I'm doing what I need to do.
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