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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:41 PM
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This is not a virtue.
What is not a virtue?

Defending assholes is not a virtue.

:thumbsup:

What is your "not a virtue?"
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:41 PM
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1. BEING an asshole is not a virtue
being an asshole in denial is not a virtue











chastity is not a virtue
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SPKrazy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:45 PM
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2. Being phony
Edited on Mon Jun-11-07 10:51 PM by Southpawkicker
is not a virtue

defending people who are being phony is not a virtue


being dishonest with your feelings and yourself is not a virtue


edited

:hi:

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:47 PM
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3. Brushing your teeth with poison Chinese toothpaste is not a virtue.
It will kill you, suckers!

:scared:
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 11:05 PM
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9. For some people, that could be the first and only virtue they have...
:)
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:49 PM
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4. Depends. One man's asshole is another man's friend.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:05 AM
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28. haha.... I was hoping someone would "go there"
so to speak.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:52 PM
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5. sloganeering about peace and love
and with constant references to kindness and maybe vague allusions to eastern religion while being a completely nasty, conniving person underneath. I'll take my straight-shooters any day of the week. :hi:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:57 PM
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6. LOL. Idgiehkt, I KNEW I loved you.
You rock, honeychild, You ROCK~!!!!!!
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:58 PM
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7. white man speak with forked tongue
yeah, gimme someone who makes no bones about being a jerk.

be it, own it!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 10:59 PM
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8. I gotcha, sister.
I know exactly what your talkin' 'bout.

:thumbsup:

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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 06:21 AM
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11. slogandeering about love and pretending to be self righteous
while being underhanded is certainly not a virtue.
:thumbsup:
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 06:46 AM
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16. ..... or simply intolerant.
As one encounter with a 'you need to be spiritual, in whatever way I tell you' git made crystal clear recently.

Peace and love - my way or else.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 06:21 AM
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10. defending assholes seems to be the new cool thing
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 06:24 AM
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12. It depends on who the supposed "asshole" is.
We dont' get to judge that I suppose. But we can have our own opinions about it. :thumbsup:
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 06:42 AM
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13. My "not a virtue"
is posting OPs designed to stir up shit.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:14 AM
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31. and then being smug about it while claiming innocence...
:shrug:

RL
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 06:44 AM
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14. Telling people what they believe and think rather than asking them.
The world needs more questions, and less "this person thinks that! I know because he was wearing new shoes!"

Aside from that, I'll go with the "I'd prefer an honest bastard to a sloganeering git anyday" as per above.

You know, someone had the temerity to tell me that I didn't really want to know the truth (they found out I was a scientist-in-training) and then told me that they believe stuff because, basically, it is entertaining to do so. Not at all hypocrisy there, Captain Integrity (that's my codename for them) (This was on another website)

And then after all that, Captain Integrity had the temerity to try and lecture me on what duties I have as someone who knows physics and chemistry - basically to bastardise them to fit what they wanted.

Well, I'm not one to take that stuff lying down, so I shot them down. Arsehole.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 06:45 AM
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15. Ah, but isn't assholery subject to interpretation? What is an asshole to me may be your
friend, spouse, lover, etc. Defending that person could be virtuous in your eyes and not in mine. hmmm.... deep thoughts.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 07:24 AM
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18. Real life example.
I have a child who many perceive as an "asshole". Because of his perceived assholishness, he has been accused of doing things that he flat out did not do. I love him with all of my heart and will protect and defend him as long as I walk this Earth.

By your definition of virtue, it defines my actions as non-virtuous. But... you can SAY that all day long and know what? You're wrong and would never convince me otherwise.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 07:29 AM
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19. i suppose maddy should have made an exception for children
Edited on Tue Jun-12-07 07:30 AM by lionesspriyanka
you are not virtuous if you are defending assholes, unless they are your children.

in all cases i think you have a duty to defend your children.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 07:32 AM
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21. Why not friends or significant others? Isn't all assholery in the eye of the beholder?
I mean - I still think it's always virtuous to defend all people you love/care about...
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 07:34 AM
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23. i disagree, you shouldn't protect adult assholes, if indeed they are being assholish.
Edited on Tue Jun-12-07 07:34 AM by lionesspriyanka
i would not hesitate to tell a friend they are being an ass, if i perceived it so. if they continue being an ass, i shouldnt protect them.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 07:35 AM
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24. Oh, ok. I misunderstood. I don't think asshole behavior should be defended. But, the asshole
Edited on Tue Jun-12-07 07:37 AM by PeaceNikki
themselves is not always immune form protection just because of their label of an "asshole" by others. Right?
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 07:37 AM
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25. yeah, i guess i dont understand why someone you didnt display assholish behavior
would be considered an asshole.

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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:21 AM
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32. yep, there are people i would stick up for even if they were dead wrong
with the exception of child abuse, child murder, infanticide, robbing/harming an elderly person, or molestation or anything i consider beyond the pale.

i routinely have gone to bat in situations for one long-term friend who has a bit of a temper problem, and he is an asshole.

but so am i, and he stuck up for me MANY times when i was a horrifying drunk. many, many times.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:23 AM
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33. what if your friend/you got really drunk, and started beating up a young girl
should you stick up for him or should you make him stop?
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:29 AM
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35. please note the qualifications in my post
and i normally don't have friends that beat children.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:23 AM
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34. And, you going to bat for the people you care about makes it virtuous.
Despite the OP's blanket statement of little virtue.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:31 AM
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38. very few people truly matter to me
the top of the list: family and close friends.

somewhere on the list, people on internet message boards who are kind, or who have otherwise made themselves meaningful to me (or me to them) through some expression of kindness or familiarity.




nowhere on the list, anonymous people on internet message boards who are vile just for the sake of being vile.
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MistressOverdone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 07:23 AM
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17. Eating frog legs is not a virtue
especially if said frog has teeth.

Or...wait a minute. Is this one of those posts with a hidden meaning?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 07:31 AM
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20. Wearing a short-sleeved "dress shirt"; wearing perfume; molesting children
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:09 AM
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30. one of these things is not like the other.... n/t
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:31 AM
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37. Well, yeah, the short-sleeve "dress shirt" isn't the most evil thing a person could do.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 07:32 AM
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22. Being an asshole and saying you're being assertive is NOT a virtue.

THese days lots of people can't tell the difference--or they can and they just don't give a toot.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 08:47 AM
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26. what makes someone an asshole?
Edited on Tue Jun-12-07 08:48 AM by buddhamama
and wouldn't the person defending the asshole be, at least at that moment, an asshole too?

i think we'd all agree Bush is an asshole but things get muddled when the situation is personal, and we care for the people involved.

asshole is in the eyes of the beholder- perception and judgment.

and sadly, as is often the case, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:29 AM
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36. !
:hug: :hug: :hug:
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southlandshari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:42 AM
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39. Well said.

:hi:
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 08:48 AM
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27. Well - no offense to the faithful, but for me "faith" is not a virtue
Faith = blind belief, despite all evidence
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:06 AM
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29. refusing to ever admit to being wrong or needing help
definitely not virtues. I'm looking at you, Bush voters.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:45 AM
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40. Patience IS a virtue.
But I am not a virtuous woman.

:D
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:55 AM
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41. bullying people is not a virtue
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