I called the driver of one of those enormous SUVs a 'fucking dumbass' and she heard it too

[LynneSin]

Just because you have the ability to buy a $50k oversized vehicle and maintain the $75+/week gas bills does NOT give you the right to look at me like your head is up your ass when I'm trying to point out that your assine environment killer is blocking the main road - all in the name of getting a Supersized breakfast at McDonalds.

So yes, I rolled down my window and called you a fucking dumbass and I know you heard it because you scrunched you face with the "why me". But the owner of the small car ahead of you in line knew all I was trying to do was to get you to move back a few inches so I could pass through the main road that takes you out of the parking lot and that kind person moved to the point that he was practically hitting the car ahead of him.

So not only did you deserve being called a fucking dumbass but if I could drive my car with no hands I would have given you TWO fingers, not one

[Tyler Durden]

1. Did you hear the latest Automaker's Excuse for huge gas guzzlers?

"They're what the American Public WANTS!"

Get it? It's the MARKET'S fault, not ours!!! (And NOBODY say the word "TOYOTA" to me. THEY are marketing a HUGE HEAVY PICKUP.)

[LynneSin]

4. ***mumbles something under my breath***

((I hope TD doesn't find out about my Corolla)

:hide:

[Tyler Durden]

10. Ha ha, But COROLLAS aren't the problem.

(DIALUP WARNING)
http://www.toyota.com/tundra/index.html?s_van=GM_TN_TUNDRA_INDEX

Toyota trying to out-testosterone GM.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2007_Toyota_Tundra.shtml

Just Toyota, proving they can build a gas-guzzler like everyone else.

[Crazy Dave]

13. Primarily for the American market

You don't see the dumb, stupid, monster-sized Toyotas in Europe or Japan. They're a lot smarter over there.

[Tyler Durden]

15. Truly. Makes one wonder: would $5/gallon gas solve this problem? Maybe. N/t

[Crazy Dave]

17. Don't know

A drug addict will spend whatever it takes to feed their addiction and so will an egomaniac. Screw the kid's college tuition and worry about retirement savings later, like the Hummer dealer said in "Borat", "this thing's a real pussy magnet". Americans gotta have their "pussy magnets" or the "look at me" cars.

Maybe I'm a little hypocritical but I like the classic cars that people have restored or kept well over the years. They guzzle gas but at least thet're nice to look at and not rusting away in a dump. I don't have a problem with those and I do like seeing a vintage Mustang or GTO.

[Tyler Durden]

27. A classic car has already expended the resources to make it in the first place.

I figure they get points for that up front, but also are you going to drive your '64 'Stang EVERY DAY? Hell no, you'll rot the damned thing.

[Rambis]

36. I want those cars!

The euro cars that is. I would drive any of the smaller cars that ford,chevy,nissan,toyota or a sKoda that they don't sell in the US market. I can take backroads and avoid the SUV driving idiots.

[underpants]

9. As you probably know -that is complete BS

The SUV especially the oversized never-meant-to-go-offroad kind are modern marvels of marketing. There was never a market for those things it is completely created. Now there was a market for the off road vehicles but that was/is a small niche that was completely satisfied by Landrover Toyota and Jeep-the real outdoors ones that are all beat up and with the snorkel thingees.

"The market" has shown that there was never any demand for these things because as soon as gas got over $2 a gallon (remember those days?) people in droves started trading in SUV's while at the same time hyrids (let alone if there was an electric car) have a waiting list*. They simply can't make them fast enough.

*it needs to be pointed out that this was an actual waiting list not a manufactured marketing one like the Hummer people created.

Seriously if we could just get back to dealing with FACTS in this country we would have half the battle won. Just facts from there we can all make rational informed decisions and the loose tangents can go off and pound sand about what they BELIEVE to be the truth.

[Tyler Durden]

12. Oh of COURSE I know it's bullshit.

Automakers make the highest profit margin on sales and service for large vehicles with shitty mileage, so why not LIE and try to make it the buyer's fault?

[Crazy Dave]

11. The worst excuses are from the people who own them

"I need my SUV, I have kids"

"It snows where I live"

:puke:

I've lived in Europe, in two different countries where it snows and yes, people there raise families and take their kids to soccer practice too and not only do you not see any monster sized family vehicles, the people get around in the snow and with their kids quite well.

[Tyler Durden]

14. My little Saturn SL1 stayed on the road just fine last winter.

Passed A LOT of biggies in the ditch, though.

[Maine-ah]

22. the people in the ditch just don't know how to drive in the snow

but, I have an suv, guess I'm an asshole too. what ever, I guess. But when it's many feet deep out here with the snow, and our road is the last to get plowed, two large dogs, a baby plus the both of us? Why not have a vehicle that is 4 wd, and has ground clearance as opposed to a minivan which gets the same gas mileage and actually costs more than my suv did?

[Tyler Durden]

25. You're NOT an asshole if you don't drive it to make your DICK bigger.

I don't know why people infer from this sort of discussion that EVERY LIVING SOUL who drives more than a Metro is an asshole.

If you live IN THE COUNTRY, then why are you trying to justify a legitimate need?

They still build dump trucks and road graders: last time I looked they get TERRIBLE mileage, but there's no substitute for what they do.

[cobalt1999]

19. so how am I to tow my 4600lb boat and

load up my wife and kids, plus dogs, plus other misc. stuff? With a Prius?

I guess you want to ban boating too.

[Tyler Durden]

26. Repeating: if you aren't driving it just to make your DICK bigger...

...if you have a legitimate need, then why are you trying to justify it?

If you need a truck to haul something, then you need a truck. QED

[Crazy Dave]

39. That and...

...some people don't realize it but you can catch fish in a small boat just as good as in a big boat too. Take our little 12 footer, it tows just fine behind my wife's Tacoma.

[cobalt1999]

48. you go offshore in a 12 footer?

We typically run 25 miles out into the gulf. We also do lots of cruising along the coast up to 150 miles either way. You're a braver man than I if you do that in a 12 footer.

BTW, you are now judged by the vegetarians for fishing.

[Crazy Dave]

49. .No desire to go offshore fishing

Again, that's a want to more than a need to

[Crazy Dave]

38. That's a new one

Usually I get the typical, "What's the matter?", "You can't afford one yourself?" replies :rofl:

[skygazer]

2. The majority of the people I see driving those things are lousy drivers

They can't park them. I've sat in parking lots waiting patiently while they backed and pulled forward, backed and pulled forward, trying to get into the space. It's not the size of the vehicle (though that does make it harder) - I've parked longbed, double-cab, dualie-wheel pickups with less trouble than these wingnuts (who are usually on their cell phone while trying to do it).

And usually, I see one person in the vehicle. Everyone who has one defends it because they "need" it for the kids, for the dogs, for the sporting equipment, for whatever but 9 times out of 10, when I see one, it contains one (1) person. On a cell phone. :banghead:

[LynneSin]

7. So someone is willing to pay $75+/wk for a dog carrier

That's just fucking insane.

[RebelOne]

18. Well, I pay about $35 a week for a dog carrier.

I have a station wagon and take my dogs in it on the weekend. A car won't hack it, since one dog is a 108-pound Rottweiler and the other a 44-pound mutt.

[bumblebee1]

56. There's a lady I work with has a Hummer.

She can't back the thing up to save her life. She did laugh when I referred to the Hummer as the "small penis mobile."

[asthmaticeog]

3. Do you suppose she had a small penis?

:P

[LynneSin]

5. In this society you never know

:shrug:

[JVS]

44. PM sent

[LeftyFingerPop]

6. I feel that...

there are certain people in this word that are just oblivious to others around them. I don't know if it is from their own self importance or sheer stupidity...in any case, it is indeed very annoying. Unfortunately, it will always be this way. Sorry you encountered one of these people. :hi:

[CabalPowered]

8. I love pulling into Costco gas

in my Prius and find the biggest SUV filling up. Pull in behind them, hop out, fill the tank, hop back in, all in about 3 minutes. Always under $20 and always catch the eye of the SUV owner and just shake my head.

[Crazy Dave]

16. Yep...higher gas, higher insurance, could have bought two Prius'es

I wonder about folks who feel like they need vehicles like that for personal use. If they weren't destroying the environment and double depleting our fossil fuels and the ozone layer I'd feel sorry for them.

[Maine-ah]

23. if you fill up from empty

on an 11.9 gallon tank how are you spending only 20 bucks? You'd be spending $1.68 per gallon of gas. What year is your Prius?

[Left Is Write]

24. ...and where can I get the $1.68 gas?

Remember when $1.68 was expensive?

[CabalPowered]

28. I typically don't let the gas gauge get below the last two pips

I found out the hard way how unpredictable the gas gauge is in the prius. There's a rubber bladder that inflates and deflates inside the gas tank depending on conditions. The accuracy of the gauge gets worses as you get lower on gas. Even then I think lately my bill has been a bit higher than $20. My bad.

[Maine-ah]

29. if guage is inaccurate

how can you figure your mpg accurately?

[CabalPowered]

30. The prius calculates mpg for you

in real time.

[JVS]

47. Never trust a gauge when calculating MPG

When you fill up, reset the trip meter. Next time you fill up compare the trip meter to the quantity of fuel needed. Works in cars without any gas gauge.

[Hangingon]

20. I can only admire the bravery of someone

who attacks a woman in an SUV from the safety of his own car. Was it easier not knowing if she needed an SUV?

[LostinVA]

53. "his own car" -- OMG! Lynne's has a sex change operation

[Deep13]

21. Jeez, and I feel guilty driving a Jetta wagon.

4-cylinder, not turbo-whatever. It's our big car. My wife drives a Civic Hybrid.

[Javaman]

31. First, never go back there, second, don't eat fast food, third don't ever go back there. nt

[LynneSin]

32. Well, I don't eat there

But I really like the Grocery store that shares the parking lot with that McDonalds

[Javaman]

34. Ahhhh, that makes it worse. I have that issue too...

I find the McCars that inhabit the McD's are usually McSuv's filled with McFools.

Nothing like trying to circumnavigate that sea of steel and burger wrappers to get to the grocery.

[idgiehkt]

33. I did that recently

I used a different word after 'f*cking' though, and she probably didn't hear me but I know for sure she read my lips, lol since I was looking her straight in the face and screaming. She was in a black SUV and I was in the turning lane and she was in a parking lot about to pull out, and she stared at me for like 5 full seconds and waited til I was about 20 feet away from her and started to pull right out in front of me. In my Tonka toy I would have been toast...I guess you don't have to focus when you know what you are driving will crumple any normal sized vehicle. That is one of the few times I've been that ugly to someone driving on the road, but I just kind of lost it.

[Initech]

35. On my way home from San Diego on Sunday...

I saw a brand new (yes, brand new, somebody actually fucking bought this) raised Hummer H2 that was probably jacked about 3 - 4 feet off the ground. Still had the paper plates on it. It required a stair ladder to get in. Had I been able to, I would have easily given that driver the finger.

My top two choices for a new car are a Mazda6 and a Honda Civic, both run about $23 - $24K, seat 5 easily, get about 33MPG, and are PZEV (partial zero emission vehicle) rated, and this douchebag goes out and buys a raised H2 that probably cost about $75,000. Some people. :eyes:

[LynneSin]

37. You know what I don't get - Yellow Hummers

Look like fricking Short-Bus School buses

[Initech]

43. Short bus... ha ha!

I like it. Honestly, in my opinion, there's no car on the road anywhere that screams "I'm a huge douchebag" more than a yellow H2.

[Midlodemocrat]

52. Me neither. If I were going to spend that much on a car, I

would sure as shit pick a different color than school bus yellow. :puke:

[tigereye]

55. plus they got some kind of exemption for it

I had forgotten about this til I heard on Marketplace, but there is some kind of tax exemption for folks who buy one for work purposes (alas, the definition of work is rather broad from what I heard.)

I am sorry to say that the whole boom and bust giant car fiasco reminded me of all those big 70s cars during the gas mid 70s crisis. Then suddenly everyone had tiny cars like the orgiginal Honda CVVCs, which were EXTREMELY tiny.

Sigh. We never learn in this country....

[Initech]

57. Of course!

You'd think it would be the people who buy the small, fuel-efficient cars that get the exemptions, but no, it's the douchebags who buy the fucking gas-guzzling SUVs and huge, raised pickups that get the exemption. I swear to the highest of high Gods, we live in bizarro world.

[fishnfla]

40. I think that folks who judge people by the cars they drive are shallow

I also think that road rage is a fools game that losers love to play. I would further add that someone who gets so torqued off about waiting all of a minute in traffic is unkind, untrustworthy and most likely just plain ol' mean...

[MedleyMisty]

41. I don't know - considering the current situation of the oil supply and the environment

I think it's perfectly okay to at least judge some things about someone based on their car.

As for me - I drive a 1994 Thunderbird. When and if I am ever able to buy another car, it'll be small and get good gas mileage.

My mother lives on a dirt road. She used to have a small Bronco. Now she drives a Honda thingy that's sort of SUV-like but gets good gas mileage.

Sorry, but if you drive a Hummer for personal use there's no way you can care about the planet. I'd say Hummer and other unncessarily large and luxurious SUV drivers are most likely selfish and uncaring and plain ol' assholes.

Of course there are always exceptions. I hate generalizations myself. But I think that with the current situation, there is enough evidence for a reasonable generalization while always taking into account the possibility of exceptions here. And I'm not talking about people who off-road and/or drive reasonably sized SUVs that get decent gas mileage and have a good reason for doing so. I'm talking about Hummers and Escalades and the like.

[Connonym]

42. I have no problem judging people who flaunt their asshole-ness

Is there one good reason, one single sound reason, why someone needs a Hummer? They're not better than other cars off road. The don't hold more people than other vehicles. The only reason is because they're show off-y assholes who, I firmly believe, are over-compensating for some personal failure. Hummers are synonymous with a vulgar display of consumerism. I loathe and judge that any time I feel like it.

[Susang]

45. Can we judge you by your inconsiderate post?

Implying the OP is a loser, unkind, untrustworthy and "plain ol' mean" is hardly the writing of a paragon of virtue. Might want to examine the log in your eye before gleefully pointing out the mote in others.

[huskerlaw]

46. Oh come ON

It takes a certain disregard for the environment to drive a Hummer. That's not really a value judgment. Based on the fact that Hummers burn a ridiculous amount of fuel and really don't serve any functional purpose that a more eco-friendly SUV couldn't do, it's fairly safe to assume that the person who bought the thing isn't exactly environmentally conscious.

It's also not so much about waiting a minute as it is about the attitude that Hummer drivers seem to have that they can do whatever they damn well please with it. That may be a bit of a generalization, but in my experience, it's played out that way nearly 100% of the time.

Additionally, I really love it when people post about how horrible it is to pass judgments on others and then fill their post chock-full of judgments of their own. :eyes:

[PVnRT]

50. Get thee back to GD, oh Offended One

n/t

[Midlodemocrat]

51. Hmm. I'm more likely to think that someone who posts what you did

is unkind, untrustworthy and most likely just plain ol' mean...

But that's just me.

[triguy46]

63. sounds kinda like road rage from here.

[LynneSin]

54. Everyone - FishnFla is cool - making him part of the DU Fight Club

I think it's cool he spoke his mind (btw, are you a he?)

and btw, I wasn't in traffic, I was in a parking lot blocked by a damn SUV in a McDonald's drive thru lane that takes like forever to get thru

[Midlodemocrat]

58. Pfft. The Fight Club is so last week.

The Posse is where it's at baby.

[LynneSin]

59. Fight Club nailed your thread

so there!

[Midlodemocrat]

60. Fight Club nailed a thread with a beautiful child who has Down Syndrome.

Sad. So very sad.


:P

[LynneSin]

61. I'm really sorry!

:cry:

[Midlodemocrat]

62. I'm really kidding!

:bounce: :hug: