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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 03:33 PM Original message |
Star Wars 3: Revenge of the Sith question for SW geeks (spoiler warning!!) |
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texas1928 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. It is the Dark Side. |
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Redbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. His fatal flaw was his rage over his mother's death. |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. He'd already been toying with the dark side before that |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
3. Once The Decision Was Made, The Transformation Was Quick |
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Akoto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
4. Palpatine forced his hand on that one. |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-26-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Well |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. I also think Palpatine lost the battle with Mace on purpose |
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_testify_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 05:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
40. You are absolutely right! |
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nytemare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
68. I wish he would be in more roles. |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
7. morning kick |
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Giant Robot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
8. I suspect |
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moof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
9. Possible massive spoiler info |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. good explanation, but |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Mace was the only Jedi who used the Dark Side in his fighting |
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Hong Kong Cavalier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. Isn't that also why he's the only Jedi with a purple lightsaber? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Correct -- it's explained better in the novelization of the movie |
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DerekG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
35. Palpatine is most certainly the metaphysical father |
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nytemare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
69. I thought it was best that he left it out. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
10. I believe the real explanation is... |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Seconded |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
11. That's a good question, and it highlights a directorial flaw of the film |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. That was one of my problems with Episode 3 as well |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. That's a good interpretation |
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ContraBass Black (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. The scream destroyed the mood in the theatre I was in. |
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Hong Kong Cavalier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. I completely agree with you. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. I hate that they cut the Padme Alliance/Underground story arc |
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Hong Kong Cavalier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Exactly. |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Portman |
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Hong Kong Cavalier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Now I know Lucas screwed up. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Know what? |
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Hong Kong Cavalier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. I have a friend who's convinced that Anakin used his Jedi mind tricks on Padme |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. maybe not quite like that |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Hmmmm.... very good theory |
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Hong Kong Cavalier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Yes. Duty was always important to Padme. So her declaration of love for Anakin was...odd...to me. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Lucas is a sucky duologue writer, especially love scenes |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Since I was watching it the other day |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I LAUGHED aloud at that in the theater |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. There's a moment in EPII |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:49 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. in defense of Anakin |
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DerekG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
38. Several points |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Three responses (warning--may contain uber-geeky ruminations!) |
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Love Bug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
18. No discussion of Star Wars is complete without this: |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. It's blocked at my work |
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Love Bug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #19 |
58. Yes, and more |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
45. what the hell is an aluminum falcon? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
22. That's what you call bad writing. |
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DerekG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
36. That's what I call a bad idea |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. Nah, that's not quite it |
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DerekG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:40 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Anakin's arc was phony and perfunctory to you. Not to me. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 06:05 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. I agree with everything you said accept for Obi-wan being an incompetent |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:19 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I agree on Obi-Wan |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Correct -- it was shown to take place over a certain length of time, and |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. That's a pretty searing indictment of the films, to be honest |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 08:47 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. :eyes: |
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DerekG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Try watching the films, instead of rolling your eyes, |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. :eyes: :eyes: |
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DerekG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. My response |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:42 AM Response to Reply #36 |
47. "I don't like sand." - highly tragic figure |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Sand-haters are tragic |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Ah, yes, "I don't like sand." |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I'll cut him SOME slack |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. You never caught Paul bitching about in Dune |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. But David Lynch managed to cock that up pretty thoroughly anyway |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. Maybe so, but Paul *still* never bitched about the sand |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:19 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. Weirding modules? Sting in metal underpants? The fuck? |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. That's probably the best way to view it, but I just can't get over the casting |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #36 |
55. You think so? |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-27-07 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
44. Lucas is a decent conceptualist |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
65. ... |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
63. You have to accept that it all has to fit into a movie... |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 12:06 AM Response to Reply #63 |
77. That just shows that Lucas lacks real skill as a writer |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 07:27 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. I don't know if it was ego-induced blindness |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 08:14 AM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Ah, but that's where the ego comes in |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #79 |
90. I think that was just spin |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. That's a charitable interpretation |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. I agree, which is why the prequels aren't particularly good movies |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Yeah, but |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
64. Yes, It's Called, the P.S.P.C. Syndrome |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. I think it was really the lack of structure or rules that did him in |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Here's The Thing |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Nah--his villainy was eminently established in 3 PG films, remember? |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. I Still Do Not Understand Why He Turned |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-28-07 10:53 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Sure, I'm just questioning the idea that doing so would lower the appeal of the films |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 09:35 AM Response to Reply #72 |
84. I don't think that part was handly that badly |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
80. In my opinion...the entire "afraid Padme will die" reason for turning to the darkside |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Not a bad idea |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #83 |
89. That's what I thought would happen before I saw the movie |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #80 |
85. The Three Prequels Needed To Do More To Show His Dark Side |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. I agree wholeheartedly |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. I agree with you |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #80 |
88. ha! All of that is in the novelization |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-29-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. Which is another way of saying "it's not in the film" (nt) |
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