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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 06:37 PM
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re Vermeer and artists - 60 minutes "did they use mirrors?"
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 06:38 PM
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1. there was a post last week about Vermeer
Edited on Sun Aug-03-03 06:57 PM by greyl
and theories of his Camera Obscura technique...

http://www.grand-illusions.com/vermeer/vermeer1.htm
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:01 PM
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2. Wow fascinating article
This is the first I have heard of the artist. So sad to realize that someone so on the cutting edge of technique could have lived and died unnoticed.
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rogerashton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:12 PM
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5. Vermeer? Unnoticed?
http://www.cacr.caltech.edu/~roy/vermeer/

lists several websites, books, etc.

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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:08 PM
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3. I have been enamored of Vermeer's paintings
since I was a child, and am facinated by the use of camera obscura so that was a great link--thanks.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 07:12 PM
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4. glad I saw this a 2nd time
First time they showed it I was doing something else and didn't catch it all. Makes eminent sense to me. What convinced me was the high number of left-handed people. Why, even left-handed monkeys!


Cher
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 08:46 PM
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6. I saw it and was a little surprised at the controversy
Edited on Sun Aug-03-03 08:59 PM by nuxvomica
I knew Leonardo used the camera obscura and I figured everyone in the Renaissance did. The art historian did have a point about realism and culture. The Ancient Greeks and Romans produced remarkably realistic art. Even some prehistoric cave paintings are very naturalistic. They all probably used optical technology. But in between these periods, the imagery was more stylized. That must definitely be an effect of culture. I think the technology to achieve realism has always been around but different cultural influences inspire different levels of realism in art.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 08:51 PM
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7. David Hockney has a book out about this, too
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 10:50 PM
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8. Van Eyck used it for sure, if it was really used.
His paintings are almost photographic in detail.

While I don't buy into Hockney's theory, I was a bit astounded by the "timeline" Hockney had. There was a definitive shift approaching the 1400s.

I LOVE art history!
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-03 11:16 PM
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9. Vemeer was fairly well known in his lifetime,
but not a phenomenon. Don't know why. "The Milkmaid" is one of the most beautiful paintings I've ever seen.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 03:23 AM
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10. I was fascinated by the whole piece.....
And I have to agree, even if optics were used, you can;t take away the artisitc eye that produced the colors, the tinting, the shadows and the backgrounds........

My favorite time period.

Blew away the two dimensional and highly stylized art of the late medaeval period......

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-03 08:49 AM
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11. I love the late medieval period as well, especially the religious art.
That style is still widely used in India (hubby's Indian). I find it a bit disconcerting, but I think that is part of its charm.
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