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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 05:04 PM
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Whoops: Excel 2007 flunks some math problems
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9039058&source=NLT_PM&nlid=8

September 26, 2007 (Computerworld) -- Microsoft Corp. yesterday confirmed that Excel 2007, the newest version of its market-leading spreadsheet, returns incorrect calculation results in some cases.

The math bug first surfaced Saturday on Microsoft's own Excel support newsgroup when a user named Molham Serry reported that when he multiplied 850 by 77.1, Excel 2007 returned 100,000 rather than the correct 65,535. Others on the newsgroup quickly took up the standard, eventually posting more than 120 messages to the thread. Among their findings: Other calculations claimed 100,000 was the correct answer.

Yesterday, the Excel team offered a mea culpa posting to a Microsoft company blog. "The majority of reports were focused on multiplication, but our testing showed that this really didn't have anything do to with multiplication," said David Gainer, lead project manager for Excel. "It manifested itself with many, but not all calculations in Excel that should have resulted in 65,535. Further testing showed a similar phenomenon with 65,536 as well."

Only Excel 2007 is a math dummy. Earlier versions of the spreadsheet, including its immediate predecessor, give the correct answers.

Gainer said that the bug isn't in Excel's calculations, but in code that takes values and formats them to be displayed in the worksheet. To prove that Excel knows its multiplication tables, he suggested entering 850*77.1 in Excel 2007 -- yielding the incorrect 100,000 -- then multiplying the result by 2. The spreadsheet will return the right value, 131,070, not 200,000.

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 05:11 PM
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1. The H1B folks he hires are really good; hence his desire for unlimited quantities of them.
:sarcasm:
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:41 PM
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2. reminiscent of the 1994 Pentium FDIV bug
Curious that it's related to 65,536 i.e. 2^16.

Gainer said that the bug isn't in Excel's calculations, but in code that takes values and formats them to be displayed in the worksheet. To prove that Excel knows its multiplication tables, he suggested entering 850*77.1 in Excel 2007 -- yielding the incorrect 100,000 -- then multiplying the result by 2. The spreadsheet will return the right value, 131,070, not 200,000.

Translation: "It's not my problem. Fire that guy!"

Ah, the fingerpointing has begun.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:44 PM
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3. Hmmm, the number of rows was extended from 256 to 100,000...
Oops, 65536...

It is amusing the problem pertains to displaying the result in the cell, and in reality isn't due to fuzzy math... :D
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