Scifi.com: Star Trek Changes Due? Rumor of overhaul in the works...

[Cannikin]

Cinescape Online is reporting a rumor that an overhaul may be in the works for UPN's lackluster Star Trek: Enterprise. Citing an anonymous source, the site reported that Paramount Television Productions president Garry Hart may make changes to the show's production staff after February sweeps, including the possible replacement of longtime executive producer Rick Berman.

UPN recently announced that it was moving Enterprise to a later timeslot, 9 p.m. Wednesdays, from its current 8 p.m., starting in March.
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[alexwcovington]

1. It's about time!!!!

Now I'll never get to see it :)

Berman can take that "show" and shove it. Enterprise was never Star Trek.

[BlueEyedSon]

2. As long as they don't lose the Vulcan babe.....

:)

[TreasonousBastard]

3. or the Asian one.

[classics]

4. Trek sucks.

Ever since Gene died its all been formula SF T&A. BORING.

They need some cohesive story lines and writers who can do better than sloppy 40 minute melodramas.

[alexwcovington]

5. Aye!

We need to get some actual Trek fans to do the show.

[Gadave]

6. If that happens ...

How much do you want to bet the women's uniforms from the old show come back?

[trogdor]

32. Nimoy should do it.

It would friggin' RULE then.

[Rabrrrrrr]

33. I would support that absolutely!

That WOULD be awesome.

[Kamika]

35. Why Nimoy??

Is he some trek guru?? I never heard that.

Shatner on the other hand has written GREAT books and has even come up with an idea for a new series

[Skip Intro]

7. I've actually gotten into this season a little

I still don't like the premise - I'd rather see the most futuristic Enterprise yet exploring space in a timeline beyond that of TNG/Voyager. I'd like to see Bakula gone as well. Maybe Q could pop up and make all that happen?

But, as far as the current incarnation goes, I have found myself actually interested in some of the episodes this season. Btw, has anybody seen T'pol, ever, in any fight scene, use the Vulcan neck pinch like Spock used to? Watching last weeek's episode, while the bridge crew were fighting off some enemy who had taken control of the ship, she had a perfect opportunity to use it, but she didn't.

[Kamika]

24. Well this season started out good

The xindi arch is great, but it's too little too late

[Bridget Burke]

29. Instead of Q, Dean Stockwell should pop up....

Bakula could make a "Quantum Leap" into another story, and the REAL captain of the Enterprise could take his place.

I actually liked Bakula in Quantum Leap--maybe that show could make a come back?

[Rabrrrrrr]

8. Bye Bye Berman!

You miserable scum!

[Cannikin]

9. I feel a bit guilty....

But I'm far more excited about the resurrection of Battlestar Galactica than I am about Star Trek...and I've been a trekker since I left the womb in '73! So I wouldnt mind at all if Daimon Berman was ousted and replaced with someone who hasnt forgotten what its all about.

[MrPrax]

10. Yeah..it's awful

It's awfulness is second only to the other 'ST' type spin-off Andromeda without the babes...

[Monte Carlo]

11. Sci-fi should make you think a little bit...

... Gene Roddenberry seemed to know that; the exploration of our future hopes, fears, and other moral and practical dilemmas. Action and melodrama need to come second. Rick Berman and Co. seem to have it backwards.

The Zindi angle on the show needs to finish quickly. I think Voyager showed that extended plotlines can tire and strain easily.

[Kamika]

13. Extended plotlines is what we LIKE

Problem with ENT was that for the first 2 seasons they had crap.. then they started a Xindi arch that was soso..

DS9 had an incredible plotline from the middle of the second season.. that's why it was one of the most successful ones

[Kamika]

12. They are quite possibly cancelling ENT

Ppl at my local Trek forum are running around in panic.. but it looks like its true.. UPN didn't show ANY commercials for ENT lately and Blalock has suposedly wanted to get out of her contract "in advance".


Anyway I do think it was for the best.. Voy was crap and Ent too.. They seriously need quality over quantity.. I've been reading tons of trek books lately much much better then the series (like the ds9 follow up books)

[Cannikin]

14. I personally liked Voyager more than DS9, but I know I'm in the minority!

...usually am.

[Kamika]

15. yup you are

Imo voy was just a bad rehearsal of TNG..


They had the potential to do SO much more..

[carrowsboy]

16. VOY started out good

But lost its footing.

I love the early episodes where the 2 crews were not to trusting of each other & then Seska was the ultimate villianess.

Then all that ended and that chick in the spandex suit showed up & every episode became overly preachy.

I also loathed the characters of the EMH (did he have to sing all the time?), Neelix and Naomi Wildman.

[Kamika]

17. argh Neelix

I hate Neelix and I hate his twin brother Plox..

[Cannikin]

18. Again...I'm a Roddenberry purist...

Gene was very much against having too much conflict among the crew. And the Dominion war probably had him spinning in his grave.

[Kamika]

19. Well one thing about Ds9

I think they managed to uphold much of Genes vision even though it was a war.

Also don't forget Gene also had a war against the Romulans.

[Cannikin]

20. The one that occurred well before Kirk and Spock?

In the episode the Romulan war is mentioned, the Enterprise was considered expendable in order to prevent a war with the Romulans. Although they did have many 'cold wars' going on...Klingons, Tholians..etc.

[Kamika]

21. Yup that's the one

Also Kirk (possibly by orders from Section 31) was told to steal the cloaking device from the romulans.

[Enraged_Ape]

22. It needs a serious overhaul, BIG TIME

How about characters we actually give a shit about? Huh? Haven't seen those from the Star Trek franchise for a while.

[GreenPartyVoter]

23. I like the show fine.. hate the theme song though

[Interrobang]

25. I don't know if anything could make that show watchable.

First of all, they'd have to lose the theme song. Minus major points for *that* POS, right there.

Secondly, the characters should act like Trek characters, instead of something from any of those other shows.

Thirdly, lose the focus on T&A. It was never about that (and see some of the original female actors' reactions to the miniskirted uniforms, if you don't believe me -- that was quite revolutionary and liberating in those days for people to be on tv in skirts that short!), and it shouldn't be now.

Fourth, don't start with the plot arc thing. There's just too many of us who can't commit to being in the same place at the same time, week after week (and who might also not have the resources or willingness to tape and watch later). Incidentally, even though my favourite author of all time worked on the show, I hated Babylon 5 for *precisely* this reason -- if you missed a week, nothing else made sense.

Fifth, stop making the show reflect today's attitudes quite so much. The people who were writing for the show originally (and it mostly came down to the writers and story editors, NOT Roddenberry himself; he couldn't write his way out of a wet paper bag) projected quite a positive attitude about Life, the Universe, and Everything, instead of Enterprise, which is definitely Star Trek for Republicans -- mean, snarky, cruel, and a bad case of the me-firsts.

Sixth, get some decent goddam writers and/or story editors on the show. You know, people who actually *know stuff* about science fiction, and not just tv hacks who want to "write Star Trek"? One of the major successes of the original series was that Roddenberry et al managed to enlist the services of actual "name brand" SF writers like Theodore Sturgeon, Robert Bloch, and Harlan Ellison. (Incidentally, the new Twilight Zone series was so phenomenal for *precisely* this reason -- they had good writing. Without good writing, you can dress everyone up in fantastic costumes, have all the kick-ass SFX you can afford, and even an Olivier won't be able to get more than a mediocre show out of a bad script.) One of the major differences between classic Trek and most other tv shows was that they gave a shit about the writers...

...but of course, they're likely not going to do any or all of that, so I'll just keep avoiding the show even when I have the opportunity to see it, and I don't give a rat's ass if it gets cancelled or not.

[GreenPartyVoter]

26. I definitely hate the T&A

It gets worse with each show. The T get bigger on the main female star, but the rest of the gal is shrinking away to nothing.

[Kamika]

30. I pretty much agree

Except the arch thing.. I think that's what made ENT so lousy in the first place.. Sci fi Audience today WANT good story lines

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

27. Get J. Michael Straczynski to write an episode or two...

I'd love to see what the creator of B5 would do to Enterprise.
:evilgrin:

[Kamika]

28. or just the guys from DS9

I'm sure if they'd get the guys who did DS9 ENT would shape up

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

31. Unfortunately, Rick Berman also worked on DS9

Along with Michael Piller, who's busy doing "The Dead Zone" on USA.
Berman's lost his touch, if he ever had it.
They need completely new blood. (And get rid of Branon Braga!!!)

[Kamika]

34. Berman didnt do anything

He just produced

[Hong Kong Cavalier]

36. Isn't that all he does on Ent?

[Kamika]

37. No

I think he helps running the stories etc in ENT.. He apparently didn't like DS9

[Astarho]

38. Finally!

Berman and Braga have already killed it. I don't know if it can be saved. They aren't smart enough to keep with their own continuity, and I think THAT is what has driven most of the fans away.

What they should have done from the beginning was leading up to the Romulan war. Instead they did the Temporal cold war thing (so they could bring in stuff from the future and previous series). That didn't work so now they switch to the Xindi, which I don't know much about because I've been watching Smallville instead. All they've done is change history so they retroactivly wipe out all we've seen for thirty-some years.

And a lot of it is just written poorly. Example, Aquisition: The Ferengi show up everyone meets them, then they are let go after trying to steal everything that wasn't nailed down and sell the women into slavery. Archer never asks who they are. WTF?

UPN recently announced that it was moving Enterprise to a later timeslot, 9 p.m. Wednesdays, from its current 8 p.m., starting in March.

Wonder if that has anything to do with Smallville killing it in the ratings?

[Cannikin]

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