That Poor Little Girl In Florida

[ThomWV]

The police that have been on TV associated with the kidnapping seem to be utter bozos. Their latest implies that if they were only given permission to torture the guy they have in custody that they could take care of everything. No kidding. Take a look at these mornons in action.

The crying shame is that you can bet no one is ever going to see that child alive again.

[TXlib]

1. You don't know that.

That Utah girl (blanking on her name now) was found, perfectly healthy, a year later, after most of us had given her up for dead.

[SoCalDem]

9. Elizabeth Smart was the exception to the rule..

I have always felt that if a child of "speaking/reasoning" age is abducted, that they have a lifespan numbered in "hours" with the abductor.:(

The abductor cannot really just "let them go".. They are predators, and these unaccompanied kids are their prey.. Heartless to say it?? maybe.. but it's the truth.. They want them for sexual gratification, and once they are done with them, they are disposed of..

A toddler or infant is usually taken in a custody dispute, or someone who desperately wants a child, and since they are mentally unbalanced most of the time, they see this as an acceptable way to get one in a hurry.. These kids are sometimes released and if a stranger had them, the kids have a hard, if not impossible time telling enough about their abductor, for them to be caught..

They usually get caught because someone around them turns them in..

Adolesecent and teen children are taken for one and only one thing..:( If they escape , and lots do, they live to tell the tale..) If they are taken away by the abductor and are not found in a hurry, they may never be found :(..)

[Faygo Kid]

2. How tragic. I fear you are right. I have a daughter, too.

She's 27, but will always be my little girl (sorry. No argument will change that). I think of what I would have felt if this happened to her at 11, and I cannot imagine what the parents are going through. I only know that I would not be here now, and neither would the perpetrator.

[lpbk2713]

3. Just for info.

The suspect has been in custody since Monday on unrelated charges. He hasn't been charged with anything pertaining to the disappearance of Carlie. They now have him on Violation of Parole which means they don't have to be in any hurry to charge him with this. They probably don't want to do anything that will get him released on a technicality. They do say they have incriminating evidence in the car he was driving. At this time the girl is still missing and the authorities deny rumors that they have found a body.

[Lostmessage]

4. If she was still alive she would show up

The one in Utah was unusual but I am afraid that poor little girl is gone.

Just a gut feeling that I have.

[Pithlet]

5. When I found out that they found him

but not the little girl, I got a sick feeling in my stomach. That is not a good sign :(

[Lostmessage]

6. Same here

Did you see that monsters face?

[Fleshdancer]

7. My heart goes out to the girl and her family

I don't see how any parent goes through this with their sanity in tact. This is my definition of hell and if anyone dares to hurt my daughter, I would dedicate the rest of my life to hunting the person down and making sure they never get the chance to hurt another person's child. And they'll endure large amounts of pain in the process.

I personally have no problems with revenge. I know it's suppose to be better to trust the system and not give in to the emotion, but I just can't get there. If that makes me lesser of a person, then so be it.

[donsu]

8. I was shocked at the picture of the girl

I would have thought she was a grown woman.

full makeup and tricked out.

and why would a parent let an 11 yr. old out on the streets at night alone. (yes, some places in america you can do that but not where she lived)

I'm not dissing the child but am wondering about parents that sex up their young girl children.

[Fleshdancer]

10. "tricked out"???

wearing makeup does not mean a girl looks tricked out. many girls start wearing makeup around 11 or 12. Junior high is an acceptable time to experiment with face paint. Granted they don't always do the best job (too much eyeliner is a usual mistake at that age), it isn't a reason to kidnap them!

She wore jeans, a t-shirt, and her hair was up in a bun. Make up or no make up, I don't think her parents "sexed up" their daughter. I don't see how adding insult to injury helps the situation.

[donsu]

11. I'm sure the makeup corporations love it - the younger the better

nt

[Rowdyboy]

12. Do women wearing short dresses "deserve" to be raped?

Some judges think so. How could anyone tell how her makeup looked from those grainy security camera pictures?

[SoCalDem]

13. I agree with you.. sorta

No woman/child "deserves" to be raped regardless of their appearance...BUT.. and it's a BIG one..

Parents MUST have a serious talk with their adolescent children.. Girls AND boys..

It's a fine line between "arming them" and scaring them, but it has to be done..

When I was a child, we ran in groups.. It was rare to see a child alone.. Whole neighborhoods of kids went places together. It's harder for a predator to take a child when there are 9 or 10 other kids with them.. and we pretty much stayed in our neighborhood..

Modern children are far more mobile than before.. They go to many more "adult" places..

I rarely go to the mall, but whenever I do, I always see very young kids hanging out there.. Even if they are at the mall in a group, there will come a time when they separate to go home.. That almost always means that there will be lone children on the street heading for home..

Lots of parents do not even get home until after dark, and even though they have told their kids to stay home, we all remember how "grown up" kids start to fell at around 10 or so..

Parents need to let these kids know that as much as they want to be grown up, they are NOT.. Girls are especially eager for "teen and grown-up" clothing and makeup , at ages that are very inappropriate.. They need to know that there ARE men out there who will see them as a possible sex partner.. By the time they are interested in makeup/clothes/boys...they DO know (or should know) about sex.. Lots of very young girls think it's fun to entice the boys they know because it makes them feel grown up.. It's one thing to entice a classmate in a controlled situation (it's even dangerous then).. but it's another to be walking around a mall dressed like Brittney Spears and knowing whether some asshole is lurking in the background watching them and just waiting for an opportunity..

It's too bad that it has to be this way, but it's always better for them to have the knowledge and not need it, than for it to end up the other way around..

[Rowdyboy]

16. I'm really glad not to be a parent of a child....

Life must be terrifying much of the time. I'd be awful, obsessively overprotective.

[Shananigans]

31. As opposed to the parent of an animal? n/t

[ScreamingMeemie]

15. Many people (even some DUers) mistake my 13 year old for a grown

woman. Is she "tricked out"? No. Do I allow her to wear makeup? On occasion. My daughter is the size and shape of a 21 year old, likes to dress up nicely and yet doesn't deserve to die or be kidnapped because of what nature gave her.

I am overprotective I think sometimes too much...but if something were to happen to her how horrid would it be for someone to claim that it was somehow my fault??

[southerngirlwriter]

20. Makeup has nothing to do with it

Girls hit puberty younger and younger these days. I got my period at age 9 and had the full shape of a woman well before I turned 10. At 11, I easily looked 19. It's not "tricked out," it's just part of today's reality -- lots of young girls LOOK like women.

[freestatevet]

27. Thanks for posting that

and countering another veiled attempt to blame the victim and/or the victim's parents

[TEXASYANKEE]

14. Until her body is found ...

I will hold out hope that she is found alive.

[ThomWV]

17. So Many Presume They Got The Right Guy

You want to talk about fear, what if they got the wrong guy?

Someone said look at his face. There's an indicator of guilt for you.

Why not look at his skin color, or his religion, or lack thereof?

Guilty until proven innocent?

[Rowdyboy]

18. IF the police are telling the truth, they've physically connected

his car to the child.

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

21. Umm, wasn't he IDed from the viedotape of the abduction?

[JanMichael]

23. Yes he was. Allegedly by a family member.

It wasn't a stranger that ID'd him.

PS~ I'm very certain of that.

[southerngirlwriter]

19. Here's something that will make you want to

:puke: :puke: :puke:

I heard (on the radio) a clip from Greta Van Whatsherface's show. The PI the family hired said he had just received a "major lead," and he would be taking it to the authorities "as soon as we clear up here."

That is why I refuse to allow television in my life. It's not just soulless, it's soul-sucking. Here's someone who was so eager to be on TV that he sat and talked to GRETA VAN FUCKING WHATSHERFACE when he had just received "a major lead" on the case of a MISSING LITTLE GIRL.

Don't ask me what I want done to the kidnapper -- that will lead to a death-penalty flamefest.

What I want done to the PI is lots and lots of slow torture that stops just short of death.

How shallow do you have to be to sit on TV chatting with Greta when you have "a major lead" on the case of a missing child in grave danger??? How stupid do you have to be? Would the planet not be better without this piece of shit??

[flamingyouth]

22. Whatever happened in the Dru Sjodin case?

I know they were looking for a body last I heard, but maybe it's been too cold there? :shrug:

I really feel for the parents of this girl, and of every child who is abducted/killed/assaulted. I cannot imagine what people have to endure, really.

We have a family friend who used to be a homicide cop (and who was once on the Green River Task Force). I do have to take issue with the statement that "cops don't care" and that "they're utter bozos." Our friend (and other cops I've known) really DO care - in fact, they live, eat, breathe and sleep their jobs, to the point of complete breakdown, in the case of our friend.

[ewagner]

24. Cops are pretty special people

I've worked with a lot of them.

We expect them to make decisions in a fraction of a second that lawyers can argue about for weeks.

They do internalize their work That's why tere are so many divorces, breakdowns and alcohol-related problems within the law enforcement community.

These guys in Florida are doing their best.

Cops aren't supermen (or superwomen) just men and women like you and me.

[ikojo]

25. They also get paid very little for dealing with the dregs

of society.

St Louis lost a cop this past week. His funeral was yesterday. He was 24 years old and leaves a 13 month old son.

Not all of them are @-holes but the minority that are gives the others a very bad name.

[SoCalDem]

26. Didn't they find her body in a river??

I kind of lost track of that case, but I thought they had found the body..

These things are so sad.. and no matter what punishment the perpetrator gets, it's NEVER "over" for the families..

My friend's son was murdered, and my friend is so destroyed by it.. She became obsessed with the murderer (who just happened to be his father-in-law), that it almost drove her crazy.. She is better now, but if he ever gets out of jail, I really think she will find a way to kill him..

[Lindacooks]

No, she hasn't been found yet

Searches have officially ended, but her family is still trying to search occasionally, with volunteers. The problem is in the day or two after she disappeared, the rivers all froze over and there was quite a bit of snow, which hid any traces of her.

[ohiosmith]

28. She was found dead. What punishment should her murderer get?

[SoCalDem]

29. Whatever he gets (It's Florida, so we already KNOW what it will be)

it would never be enough to heal her family..

The problem I see here is that he was a "multiple offender", and I would bet the farm, that he had MANY sentences shortened..

I honestly do not know what makes people do things like that, but there should be SOME way to keep these dangeroous people in better check..

In every community there are time bombs walking amongst us, and we never know who they are , until AFTER.. It's sad that we cannot figure out who they are BEFORE they do something..

sad all around

[Pithlet]

30. OMG. That is just awful.

I had a feeling, but I guess I was still holding out hope. That poor baby.

[GreenPartyVoter]

32. Life in a very small dark, wet hole in the ground

The only reason I can't back up the death penalty is because even if we got the right guy this time, we might get the wrong one next time. :(

[mvd]

33. Breaks my heart

How anyone gets as sick as this murderer is beyond me.. :-(