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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 06:13 PM Original message |
Well-respected books/movies that could be readily seen as sexist/misogynistic? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. Pandora's Box |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. I don't remember exactly what I was thinking when I watched Louise Brooks in that movie |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. I do. |
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lost-in-nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. never mind |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. Anything by Edward Abbey |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. That silly chick Emma in "Madame Bovary" |
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jeff30997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
5. The #1 best selling fantasy book of all time: |
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Lisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. The Odyssey |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. So Penelope the trickster-weaving-heroine doesn't catch as a feminist archetype? |
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Pale Blue Dot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. The Iliad is even worse. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
9. Debbie Does Dallas |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
10. everything Disney ever made... except maybe the Lion King. |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
59. What about that one where the mother died? |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
12. All James Bond films |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
13. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
14. Early science fiction, where women were either objects of desire or solving problems by screaming. |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Did the screaming really solve anything? n/t |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. It alerted the men to the presence of a difficulty, which they could then overcome. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. It Conquered the World added shooting ridiculous carrot-shaped aliens to the mix |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
63. Heck, I think we can readily identify ALL pulp fiction of that era as sexist and misogynistic.eom |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
15. Most Brian de Palma movies feature horrific violence against women. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
17. Women in Love |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
32. And certainly "The Fox" |
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Tuesday Afternoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
18. Boxing Helena |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
58. That movie wasn't so much "misogynistic" |
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Rob H. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-19-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
74. Damn right! |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
19. Most Westerns |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
21. Huck Finn |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-19-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #21 |
65. Why? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
23. "Little Women." |
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GirlinContempt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 12:29 AM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Elucidate? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:27 AM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Jo is a total bitch and she sleeps her way to the top with the old German dude |
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otherlander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
24. I liked Cuckoo's Nest. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I liked it too, and many feminist women I know enjoy it. |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
26. Lord of the Rings (the novel) |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. That was going to be one of my picks |
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Lisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 04:30 AM Response to Reply #26 |
41. and of course Aragorn comes off looking like Mr. Perfect, for being so nice to Eowyn ... |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 06:16 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Arwen Undómiel was no Luthien Tinuviel, I tell you what! |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #43 |
54. That is fantastic and funny! |
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Lisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-19-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
69. great points, pokerfan! |
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pokerfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-19-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Very cool. Thanks for that, Lisa! |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
27. Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde |
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
30. Many Classics |
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deadparrot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
31. Taming of the Shrew: |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
33. "I, The Jury"...ooops...you said well-respected |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-17-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. "Now I'm not an author, I'm a writer, that's all I am."- Spilllane |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
35. Lolita by Nabokov. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 05:26 AM Response to Reply #35 |
42. The protagonist is obviously sexist |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:38 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. what's wrong with being sexy |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #48 |
62. SexIST--more than sexy. |
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cemaphonic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #35 |
60. I would hardly call the book misogynistic though |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-19-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
67. He's an outcast. The book is about exile. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
36. There's no doubt "Cuckoo's Nest" is misogynistic. |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
37. OKAY. Everyone who remarked about "Cuckoo's Nest," gather around and listen... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 12:33 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Maybe the book isn't, but the film clearly is. nt |
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begin_within (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 12:45 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. They botched the whole thing when they made that film. |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #37 |
61. Bibbit's mom? Harding's wife? Who are the "good" girls? Whores and "nice" pushovers |
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Catsbrains (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
44. Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:30 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. How about not suggesting that your husband ask for directions because... |
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Catsbrains (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:33 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Tell that to Dr. Gray. nt |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #44 |
56. Dr. Gray certainly had no qualifications to be called a "relationship expert." |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Incidentally, Dennis Kucinich is pretty cozy with the Maharishi's institute in Fairfield |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-19-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
71. I actually really liked that book |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
49. The Handmaid's Tale |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. lol. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:24 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. My girlfriend, Ofjvs. was horribly offended when I read her that book |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
50. most literature is a reflection of the culture we live in. most cultures are misogynistic |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-19-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. Well said. (nt) |
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cwydro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
53. Just about everything |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-18-07 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
55. The entire ouevres of Ernest Hemingway and Norman Mailer. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-19-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
64. Pink Floyd's "The Wall" |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-19-07 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
66. Would "The Stepford Wives" count? |
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skygazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-19-07 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
70. About any Disney movie |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-19-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Word |
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