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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:39 AM
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Do you think when a pet dies it achieves higher consciousness?
And if so, do you think they get pissed when they find out how unflattering some of their names were?


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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:41 AM
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1. No. I don't think there's an afterlife for people or animals. nt
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:03 PM
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26. I love it when someone is consistent.
:P

I once had a teacher who said there was an afterlife for people but not for animals. I never could agree with her or grasp her "Don't question the Bible." for an answer to why she believed one but not the other. Thank you for clearing that up for me. :D
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:43 AM
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2. Too Late!
Animals already HAVE higher consciousness.

Also, I think they're too busy laughing about the names we give them. Their love is far too unconditional to allow them to get pissed over something as silly as a name: we don't know their REAL names anyway. Ask Old Possum.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:28 PM
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11. Yeppers. Mine will answer to any pet name I have for them
but they have their own ways of identifying themselves to each other.

And they are much more conscious than most humans will ever be.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:11 PM
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3. That's why I never give my pets froofy silly names.
Well, other than my temporary rescue pet I had... found a crawfish, half dead in a parking lot at 4 am. So I took her home and called her Roadkill. :) I put her back in the wild once she was healthy again though.
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Ivan Sputnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:23 PM
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4. If they achieve higher consciousness
they aren't going to care what their names were.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:47 PM
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5. ghost kitties?
we may have a ghost kitty in our apartment.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 02:43 PM
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6. Was he named something like 'Fleataxi' or 'Mr. Bigglesworth' by any chance?
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:00 PM
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7. Sure, why not?
I don't think my dog would've been all that pissed off to know his name was Dogg Doggerson, anyway.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:04 PM
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8. My dogs name is Harry.
He is old and arthritic. When its icy, he slips on the ice. A few nights ago he was pooping and he slipped down while he was pooping and was lying on the ice on top of a pile of fresh hot poop. Didn't get up, didn't bark or whine. Just laid there. Didn't come back, so I had to get dressed and go out and look for him. Nice surprise when I helped him up and got two hands full of poop. He would have frozen to death lying on his poop.

I don't think he has a higher consciousness but he's my best friend and I couldn't love him any more.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:33 PM
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12. He has a higher conscious. And he didn't want you to get two hands fulla poop
He was trying to figure a way outta his predicament without having to embarrass himself further AND get you all messy. Maybe he would have barked when the poop froze a little and wouldn't have been so nasty for you.

All kidding aside, take care of that old boy. You're gonna be here sobbing and asking us for support when his time comes. And I'm gonna be here telling you he is still with you, that the love does't end when the vessel breaks. But, you know that, you love him and his cracked vessel too ;)

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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:20 PM
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13. thanks
I was first told he was going to die in Sept 1999 ... so there's been many brushes with death and much grace. Hes a cancer survivor, bloat survivor... kept in this world by love.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:37 PM
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14. I have to hand it to you, having used the word "poop" and it's variations five times in your post.
But good on you for being of service to your pet.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 02:10 AM
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15. Last year, after my (late) dog Roscoe came home from surgery to de-bulk a tumor on his >
spine, I helped him out to the deck to let him sun himself for a bit. To set the scene, he couldn't stand on his hind legs, the deck is two steps up from yard-level, and he was dragging a catheter, so all-in-all he wasn't going far.
I went back inside for a bit to clean up his bedding and when I came back out I saw him hanging over the edge of the deck, his front legs on the deck and his back end draped over the steps. He'd crawled several feet to the edge, got his butt over the side and (as I eventually noticed) had 'pooped' a rather larger pile, which he was sitting in. I assume he was trying to figure out his next move and hadn't yet settled on anything-- the floor was still open for suggestions.

I'll never know whether the poor guy was trying to discretely relieve himself over the edge and lost his balance or whether he just slipped over the edge and literally scared the (poop) out of himself.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:35 PM
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17. We can attribute higher motives I guess
:hug: I bet you miss him.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:07 PM
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28. I know I shouldn't have, but...
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 04:07 PM by Jamastiene
:rofl:

"Nice surprise when I helped him up and got two hands full of poop. He would have frozen to death lying on his poop."

Oh shit!!!!
That dog should really love you. :P
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:05 PM
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9. I think they start out with a higher consciousness
and their real names aren't the names we give them anyhow.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:56 PM
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10. What *is* higher consciousness for a goldfish?
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 02:17 AM
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16. I think they become koi.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 12:36 PM
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18. ROFL!
Nobody has higher consciousness than koi.
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 01:10 PM
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19. they would have to have a soul first
that's why god doesn't let house pets in heaven.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 01:18 PM
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20. I wonder where Will Rogers wound up...
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 01:32 PM
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21. will rogers was a house pet?
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 01:38 PM
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23. I was alluding to a quote of his:
"If there are no dogs in Heaven,
then when I die I want to go
where they went."
Will Rogers, 1897-1935
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 01:36 PM
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22. i guess PeeWee is pissed at me then. nt
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 02:20 PM
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24. A Christian apologist once wrote something to the effect of...
A Christian apologist once wrote something to the effect of...

"The vast majority of animals are merely dumb beasts. Yet when we take on in and impart to it our love, our compassion and our mercy, then in doing so, we also impart to it a slice of our own soul. And by doing that, you can expect to see Fido in heaven..."

I don't think Henry will be too worried about her name when/if I see her again-- most likely, she'll make up for lost time by licking my face for twenty years straight... :)
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bamademo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 03:32 PM
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25. I hope so, I had to put my dog down today.
Bone cancer. He stopped being able to walk or even roll over on his chest. R.I.P. to my beautiful Golden Retriever, Beau. We had the vet come to the house and I was combing his fur when he went.
I have a huge hole in my heart right now.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:24 PM
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29. I know that "hole" too well, Bamademo. The only way to make it better is to
leave it open long enough for more love come in. Beau wouldn't have it any other way.

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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:32 PM
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31. I'm so sorry
:hug:
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:05 PM
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27. I'd like to think I'll see my deceased cats again. But I'm not holding out.
I think it's equally likely that we all see a box of hair when we die.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:27 PM
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30. I think pets have higher consciousness to begin with
They try their darndest to teach us; but we're so self-enamored that we can't understand.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:45 PM
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33. Could be.
I think next spring I need to find myself a good dog and a good tree to sit under and we can contemplate together for awhile.


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qwertyMike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:37 PM
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32. Higher than what? US?
I think they already there.
Mebbe when humans die they ascend to the higher consciousness than we feeble things.
Like in rarely killing their own species
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hippywife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:46 PM
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34. Actually,
I think they possess a higher consciousness in life than most humans.
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