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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:28 PM
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Just had a political argument with my freeper bro...
I'm not very good at arguing verbally. I like having my thoughts organized on paper or the computer monitor before posting or sending them. I'm slow to speak as a result, and don't often get into verbal arguments.

But he kept going off about how we should ship all the illegal aliens back to Latin America, eliminate the income tax, and stop giving handouts to people. Then, when he said he was worried that someone was going to try to make companies pay illegal immigrants a living wage, I said that I thought the government should make these companies pay a decent salary to their employees, and put an end to slavery. Shit, meet fan.

"You want to send ALL the businesses away from the US?! The government shouldn't dictate companies' wages! Minimum wage was designed for 17 year olds to earn money to save for college, not for families to live on! Yadda, yadda, and more yadda!"

When I mentioned that there were college grads and outsourced-out-of-work professionals working in newly-built Home Depots across the country and that this was Dumbyass' way of solving the unemployment problem; he replied that "That's been debunked so many times it's not funny." I said it wasn't funny to my friends who have been in that position. And he said, "Oh sure there are instances." :eyes:

Sigh. I wish I knew how to effectively argue my points aloud. :(
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:29 PM
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1. If its any consolation
It probably wouldn't make any difference - that kind never listens or learns, no matter how eloquent you are. :hug:
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:32 PM
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2. True. Freeper types are adicted to their talking points.
:(
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:43 PM
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6. What gets me is, he's worse off since Dumbyass took control...
Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 05:44 PM by GoddessOfGuinness
but he can't bring himself to admit it. He'd rather blame the Latinos in his neighborhood for his problems.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:39 PM
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4. He shocked me, years ago, when he told me he listened to Lush Limpballs.
I always thought he was smarter than that.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:33 PM
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3. Try to find common ground
Argue for the elimination of free trade.

Then bring it back to a living wage.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:41 PM
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5. That's an interesting idea...
If I can implement it in the heat of the moment, I can see how it would help. Thanks for the tip!
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:45 PM
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7. just walk over
and kick him in the nuts. it's faster and will make you feel better.

(j/k, but I had to have that five second fantasy...)
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:04 PM
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8. He always won fistfights when I was a kid, too.
:rofl:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:17 PM
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9. *hugs* I suck at oral arguments too. But still, kudos to you for sticking up for those
who are in need. (And if he is at all a religious freeper, let me know. There are TONS of verses about being kind to "aliens" in your country.)
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:25 PM
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10. Well I'm starting to wonder if he isn't a Fuckabee supporter...
He was suggesting replacing the income tax with a heavier sales tax.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:32 PM
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13. Hmmm Could be
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:30 PM
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11. Talked to my 2 freep sisters and bro-in-law on Xmas...
Gushing about Mitt Romney and how much he did for Massachusetts.

Uh, he did NOTHING good for Massachusetts, except to LEAVE it.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:37 PM
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14. Maybe they'd like to go on their next vacation
in a cage on top of the family station wagon?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:32 PM
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12. Just curious...how many times did you catch him jerking off to "The Fountainhead" as a teen?
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:42 PM
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15. Fortunately, never. There's a nasty image for my poor head.
I think my brain just puked. :puke:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 07:11 PM
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16. I'm really really sorry
I would take that image back if I could. Honestly :)
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