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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:13 PM
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"47% of women over 50 prefer sleep to sex" says she...
...reading me something from the AARP bulletin...

"I wonder how many of those women are un-partnered. I could say I'd rather sleep than screw if I was over 50 and didn't have anybody either..."

"Hey, I'm just quoting the article..."

Plenty of pills to help Da Ditka "get back in the game", but nothing to help Stella get her groove back....
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:14 PM
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1. Bet they're only talking about straight women
:evilgrin:
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:31 PM
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11. Huh?
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:16 PM
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2. OK then....
Edited on Fri Feb-06-04 10:16 PM by kalian
so, when their horny husband decides to head out and find some
"young lovies" the the "above 50" crowd of women should shut up....
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:25 PM
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8. Hey, you're barking up the wrong tree here.
seein's how I was the one kicked to the curb TWICE.

So the horny husband should resign himself to jerk-off magazines for the rest of his life while cooled-off wifey moans to her mom about his "Porn addiction"?
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:32 PM
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12. I prefer thinking that I'm howling to the moon....
:evilgrin:

But my comment still stands...
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:11 AM
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57. LOL!
Good point, BJ!
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:16 PM
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3. How about sex while you sleep..LOL
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:34 PM
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14. Hehe....
:evilgrin:
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:17 PM
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4. They must have been polling my ex gf.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:10 AM
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56. Oh, no, brainshrub,
was that what she had wanted to "talk about" earlier this week when you said she was either pregnant or wanted to break up? That's too bad, I'm sorry about that, that ALWAYS sucks!
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:19 PM
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5. That's too bad...
Having recently joined that group(dragged into it kicking and screaming all the way),I would venture a guess that some of them are probably lying:)
Anytime the subject is sex,a significant number of people tend to lie....or so it seems.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:46 PM
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26. Happy birthday, Siobhan!
I am 54 and not through yet. Hell, my doctor says my biological clock may be running out and I should get busy!
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:50 PM
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29. I have to ask....
is the Dr. cute?;)
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:52 PM
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30. He is very nice, but very married.
Not bad looking, but shaved heads don't do it for me.

:shrug:

I guess I am an anomaly, though. What can I say? ;) I have cold flashes. And feel like a teenager often. Tee hee.
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Lostmessage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 07:04 PM
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52. I posted a date thread on here one night
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 07:04 PM by Lostmessage
There are a few guys that are single and in your age group.

Go to the thread and you will find them.

No one should be alone. I found someone and I joke around about it.
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:21 PM
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6. They're not single then.. BELIEVE ME
- us single broads (though I'm not over 50) would NEVER say that :evilgrin:
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:17 AM
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59. LOL!
As a 39-year-old single gal, I can definitely vouch for that!
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:21 PM
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7. Well, thank goodness Polly belongs to the other 53 percent
That is all.
John
But perhaps I've said too much.
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:30 PM
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9. Sure they didn't poll men over 40?
:shrug:
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:31 PM
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10. well hell, no offense, but look who we're SLEEPING with... whatta ya
expect?

Men don't bother to concern themselves with a woman's needs... a little diddle, a rub, roll over, bang, whoo hoo, all done and WE get to clean it all up.

Oh goody? lol!

Yeah, we should be THRILLED!

I love you guys, but you're overrated. Few men know how to REALLLY make LOVE.... so, let's get a good night's sleep instead.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:34 PM
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13. Then....
we should allow for older women to go out in search of young
studs and older men to search out the young lovies.
What say...?
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:34 PM
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15. Well, whatdaya expect?
After the honeymoon, it's "C'mon, hurry up! The kids might wake up! Be quiet! Don't make so much noise! Where'd you learn THAT?!?!?!?"
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:35 PM
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16. Huh?
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:53 AM
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49. From having responsibilities that supercede the male's need for sex
of course.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:36 PM
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17. What's worse is that most men's ego gets in the way of LISTENING!
Most guys think they know how to take care of their woman (dammit!). When, in reality, if they'd listen and pay attention, they'd make their partner's sex life more fun.

But, I'm a single guy so what the hell do I know? :shrug:
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:41 PM
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18. Listen and pay attention.....
to WHAT?!
Please do explain, o'enlightened one....
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:44 PM
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22. They tell
But you have to ask. :)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:44 PM
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23. YOUR WOMAN! (Should be lucky enough to have one in your life)
Ask her what she wants. Listen to her when she tells you. Try some things that are new to you.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:46 PM
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25. Try some things that are new to you....
Yeah baby! Sure thing...like what? Cooking more often...? Washing
the clothes...? Cleaning the cat's litter box...?
Done that...still no prize...
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:47 PM
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27. No no no
In bed dummy. :)
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:53 PM
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31. Women aren't all that imaginative....
Edited on Fri Feb-06-04 10:59 PM by kalian
and...when you get "too creative" they think that you're looking
at porn or have been "experimenting" outside the confines... :eyes:
Experimenting is dangerous....
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:54 PM
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32. That's why open communication is important.
Don't just break out the freaky-deaky stuff without talking it over first.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:56 PM
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35. At this point....
...on second thought, I'd better not write what I wanted to write
as a reply.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:55 PM
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34. Actually, no....
...we think you have finally caught on, LOL.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:57 PM
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38. I think every relationship is different....
I think some males here would freak out about having their WIFE
become the "untamed" animal that some here believe that they are
hiding. Seriously, it doesn't quite work that way.
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:17 PM
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41. On this you're very correct
What men say they want and what they actually want in this regard are often two very different things. I think most men are intimidated by women who are sexually assertive and end up with bad cases of the old "performance anxiety".
Often, they want to label the women in negative ways that don't even apply. Perhaps though, some women have stronger drives and were raised to believe it was a healthy, natural part of our humanity, to be respected and taken seriously, yes, but also to be enjoyed as well.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:56 PM
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37. each person likes it a certain way
You just have to ask and be patient.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:58 PM
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39. Oh come on!
"Have to ask and be patient". What kind of Dr Laura psycho-drama
is this? :eyes:
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:59 PM
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40. That's how it was in mine
Yours might be different. She was honest and open with me in that realm at least.
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:22 PM
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42. It depends on the person, not the gender
I could turn around and say the exact thing in reverse and I'm a married woman (married to a man that is). Believe me, men are not the only ones who have heard these statements from the mouths of their spouses.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:48 PM
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28. A little kinky...but whatever works.
;-)
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:55 PM
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33. Umm...sure....
Dude...some gals don't take about their fantasies. Seriously. I've been married for 6 years and have been with my wife for over 12 years.
She has NEVER relayed her fantasies to me...ever. I've tried getting
her to be more creative...to "letting go"...but it just won't happen.
And guess what: I have to RESPECT that...you can't force these
things.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:56 PM
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36. True. You can't force these things.
Like I said, I'm single. What do I know?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:42 PM
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44. stop looking at it like a PRIZE or something you WIN
that's a BAD ATTITUDE
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 11:41 PM
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43. dear Kalian
we can SEE why YOU'RE dissatisfied. :o
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:46 AM
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60. LOL!
Bingo, I was just thinking the same thing!
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:42 PM
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19. You know A LOT
Words of wisdom there. Listen to your women, don't laugh at her or take 5 or 10 years to do something she likes and then never do it again. Seduce HER every so often. Don't make her feel rejected and somehow perverted for being a sexual being and then finally when it's pretty much too late, say "you'll try". It's just not enough.

(Sorry about my little rant there, GOP. You'll make someone a great catch one of these days.)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:45 PM
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24. It's all 'bout talkin' to one another...give and take...that kinda thing.
Open minds help, too.

Thanks for the compliment.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:31 AM
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45. So what to do when the shoe is on the other foot?
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 09:32 AM by BiggJawn
I manage to go home on the verge of tears in rejection at LEAST once a week. I try everything, I tell her how much I want her, and how beautiful she is to me, and it's "I just don't FEEL that way anymore..."

And she refuses to ask her doctor about it, says therapy "Doesn't work", etc....

My resentment factor is increasing. I don't like being shamed, I had enough of that shit from my ex the Closet Lesbian (yeah, I got "issues", so what?)

So it ain't always the man.
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 06:43 PM
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51. Well
Edited on Sat Feb-07-04 07:35 PM by populistmom
I'm not rejected totally, just partially to an extent. Geez, I feel weird saying this stuff. I think if it were complete and the person wanted to nothing to change it, I'd look elsewhere without guilt. Maybe that's wrong, but what else can one do?
I've thought along those lines, but wouldn't do anything unless fell in love with someone else and that kind of thing can sometimes be rather elusive.
I think I'd also have serious questions about continuing the marriage in that situation.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:43 PM
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20. and you learn alot in the process
If she tells you what she wants. Which isn't the case all too often but luckily one of my ex-girlfriends did.

I'm single and I don't know anything either...lol :shrug:
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INTELBYTES Donating Member (881 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:48 AM
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48. Listen and pay attention?
They didn't teach you that in Austin GOPisEvil! We don't go for that sensitivity crap down here.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 01:35 PM
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50. Ehhh...I read a book or somethin'...
:P
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:44 PM
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21. Well if their husbans don't wake them up I guess it works for
both of them.
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BlondieK143 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 09:36 AM
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46. Don't know who they're polling..
But someone didn't come a knockin' on my door! How about I add like 8 votes for the people who WOULDN'T want to sleep?? :evilgrin:
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 10:07 AM
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47. I'm only 37 but that's what I was thinkin'...
....at 2:00 this morning - laying in someone else's bed, listening to HIM snore after a couple rounds of particularly unsatisfying interaction.


Hippie thinks to herself ... "Damn, I could have been all cozy in my own bed with HanktheHippiedog snuggled at my feet, for at least 3 hours by now .... I'm too tired for this shit ..." Then Hippie gets up, gets dressed, grabs her car keys - and hauls ass on outta there ...




:hippie:
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 08:04 PM
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53. Guaranteed to renew the zip: You gotta arrange a *date*...
Yeah, true, it sounds deadly, but it's not like you're 19 years old anymore, living with zero responsibilities in the dorm and getting so much that your apparatus has friction-burns. Wave bye-bye to those not-so-good old days.

If you're older, and married or partnered, and burdened with accumulated responsibilities as are so many 35-40-50-55+ year-olds, you and your mate will have to arrange a special time to be together. And maybe that special time won't finish up with the both of you writhing joyously between the percales, but you *will* spend some quality intimate time together, which is exactly the Rx that your relationship needs.

Make plans for a night together -- yes, make a date with your wife/sig. other/partner, so both of you know that that's exactly what will happen at that specified day/time. (I know, I once was a spontaneity nut, too, but when you get a bit older, it's far more complicated to be spontaneous in this area -- it sucks, but there it is.) Take a nap that afternoon so you're fresh for the evening. If there are kids, have a friend or relative put 'em up for the night. Have the house cleaned. In particular, have the bedroom cleaned and nicely arranged. Put some scented candles out for later. If you want some music, figure out the CDs beforehand. (It's your nest, make it comfortable.) No TV that night. No computers that night. No distractions. Clean yourself up, and dress up a bit. Go out to eat. Talk to each other about things that give you life (no complaining about bills, your boss, or any tired stuff). Pass notes to each other over the dinner table about the nice things you're gonna do to/for one another later in the evening. When you get home, do not get off on a tangent. Pay attention to one another. Dim the lights. Touch. Massage. Take it slowly, but with clear determination. Lie naked together. If the sex doesn't happen, that's okay -- the intimacy is the good medicine here. The sex will eventually follow.

At first, I really chafed against this whole idea. As I said, I was always for spontaneity. Unfortunately, it eventually just isn't enough to cut through all the obstacles in the way of having a nice time. My wife and I have been blissfully using the "make a date" plan for about three years now -- and we've got absolutely NO complaints! :evilgrin:
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:14 PM
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54. Cosmo's gonna sue you for plagerism.
:7
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-04 11:29 PM
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55. I am sure...
...there are times when Sappho and I are together that she would wish I would sleep. Especially when she has just gotten off a long flight. ;)
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-08-04 12:15 AM
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58. Well, this is one woman
who sure as hell DOESN'T prefer sleep over sex, and I don't know any other gal who would, either. In fact, I know a lot of gals who complain that they don't get ENOUGH sex from their husbands/SO's! Of course, I'm not married, but I don't think that would really make much difference. In fact, it'd be even better 'cause I'd have much more ready, shall we say, ahem, access and a steadier, ahem, income!:evilgrin:
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