Got a Barack Obama question...

[Pierre.Suave]

Did he vote for the Iraq War resolution?

I honestly don't know, because I am so disgusted with politics that I don't even pay attention anymore.

[Blarch]

1. This should answer your question.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EhpKmQCCwB8

[Pierre.Suave]

2. I cant watch youtube at work

thanks for the link though.

[Blarch]

3. His famous pre war speech.

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_Speech

[Blarch]

4. BTW

he wasn't in the senate yet.

[Pierre.Suave]

9. ah

well that answers that question then...

D'oh...

[bullwinkle428]

5. Short answer : he wasn't in the Senate at the time of the IWR,

so he didn't vote on it at all!

[SteppingRazor]

6. He wasn't in the Senate to vote for it.

But in 2002, before the invasion, he gave an impassioned speech against the war, and he has been against it ever since. He's the only major candidate who has been against this war from the get-go. Voting for funding it, of course, dilutes that strong statement a bit.

[GalleryGod]

7. Correct. Clearly Anti War.

[Pierre.Suave]

10. but votes to fund it?

How can that be?

[Blarch]

11. So...

I thought you didn't pay attention anymore ?

You seem to know he votes to fund the war, but you don't know his position on the war, or if he was even in the senate at the time ?

I smell a rat......again.

[DS1]

12. You haven't been around long enough to smell rats

[GalleryGod]

14. With all due respect DS1..you must admit..

This website is over run and infested with operatives this time around.

[DS1]

15. It absolutely is, stunningly so.

However, I'd put what's left of my tattered and muddy reputation on the line regarding jasonc not being a troll.

[Pierre.Suave]

18. Thank you

I am definitely not a troll.

And this was a completely innocent question, not an attempt to start anything...

[KitchenWitch]

21. You are not a troll!

This I know.

:hi:

[Midlodemocrat]

19. As will I.

And your rep, my friend is still rock solid with me.

:hug:

[Pierre.Suave]

13. Well, you know what they say...

it takes one to know one...

Edit: just because I try not to pay attention does not mean I don't know anything about what is going on.

Before, when I was actively blogging I spent my days and nights poring over every single piece of news relating to politics. I don't do that anymore, therefore, I am not on top of every tidbit of news.

[KitchenWitch]

20. ...

:wtf:

Could you take this dispute offline? Geez

[Orsino]

22. One might say that he got off easy...

...not actually having to vote against it in the Senate. The pressure on senators is apparently massive, as so damned few of them actually spoke and voted to block the war.

But yeah, Obama's on the record as having been right, back when being right wasn't cool.

[Pierre.Suave]

23. You have a very good point

and I would like to have a candidate that went through that crucible, and came through the other side with their integrity intact.

[Orsino]

24. Yeesh. We know what that crucible does to them...

...and I'm just glad Obama hasn't been soaking in it for long. I'll cross my fingers.

[Pierre.Suave]

25. I fear he is planning

on taking the easy route, and avoiding the crucible with his talk of bipartisanship and working with the repugs and making the easy votes, not the votes that show character and conviction of purpose on the Iraq War.

[Orsino]

28. You're on to something here.

His very lack of national political experience means that there's not much dirt to dig up on him. I think this makes it look as though he's getting some sort of free ride--but this is just the corporate media's ineptness showing. They can make mountains out of molehills, all right, but they need to be spoon-fed even those molehills.

Obama, without the lengthy voting record his opponents have, is taking the populist route, talking with people about their concerns. He's doing it quite well, too, confounding the pundits every step of the way. So far, this may be proving his greatest weapon. If and when the MSM finally learns a safe way to attack him, then we'll see him struggle.

[Pierre.Suave]

32. That is not the struggle I want to see him endure...

I would prefer to have a candidate that was in the house and senate during the Bush years, and had voted their convictions and conscience, instead of votring for political expediency then, and making excuses now. Obama never had to make the hard choices, so we dont know how he will come out the other side. We can guess, and I think I know how we will make those choices, and I dont like it one bit.

Now, is NOT the time to be talking about compromise and bipartisanship with the repuglicons. NOW, is the time to stomp their asses into the ground and take our country back.

[LSK]

26. its one thing not having to make the vote, its another thing protesting the war in 2002

[Orsino]

29. Yeah.

I wish we could vote for someone who's done both, but that animal doesn't exist on the national stage--a very telling point. :thumbsup:

[Pierre.Suave]

30. Yes, it does...

His name is Dennis Kucinich.

[Orsino]

31. Dennis is my man...

...but no, he's not a protestor. He has spent his time in office well, though, and I would be proud to call him Mister President.

[Pierre.Suave]

34. He protests in his own way

By standing up for truth, and honesty in government.

[Orsino]

35. Yeah. I think he's worth several thousand people in the street, every day. n/t

[La Lioness Priyanka]

8. wasnt there to vote for it.

[GalleryGod]

16. OOOOO you are agile !

Here and in GDP on the same topic.

[Pierre.Suave]

17. Excuse me?

What?

Why don't you link me to GDP where you think I am on the same topic today?

[PVnRT]

27. More of a complete answer here

Link

[JVS]

33. no