Is the day of the grungy depressed suburban teenager over?

[HEyHEY]

You know, the kind of kids in movies like "Subrubia" (The second one). WHere the kids hang out around 7-11s like the social leaches they are...and complain about how pointless life is and never go anywhere......they just sit around, watch movies, smoke dope....that kind of stuff.

I'm thinkin the intranet may have gotten rid of them. Now the world is so over connected, they spend time actually looking at stuff on the net instead of hangin around outside the 7-11.

ALso, 9-11 andthe Iraq war has shaken the US, so there is a bit more happening in their country, which I guess serves as a distraction.

I'm just asking cause I have seen many around these days. There never ws a lot where I grew up anyway.

What do you think?

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

1. they're still around

nt

[BlondieK143]

2. Not sure about grungy..

But the big thing around here is the gothic kids that hang out at the mall. Can someone PLEASE tell me the point of that damn dance thingy? Why would you want to spend 20 bucks on something that you get nothing out of?

But yeah, those kids (we're talking mostly 14-16 year olds) stand outside where the theatre entrance is and smoke (yeah, like you're cool since you're not legal) and suck face all day. I don't get it. *shakes head*

[trogdor]

4. You mean Dance Dance Revolution?

It's a chick game, so I can't explain it. As with the other games in the arcade, there is no point, although I find it interesting that they finally invented a video game that involves physical exercise.

[BlondieK143]

6. It's certainly interesting...

But I don't get the point. I mean these guys are there for HOURS. HOURS! I'd rather dance around naked in the comfort of my own home. :)

[CanuckAmok]

25. "Lost in Translation" has a great arcade scene...

where Japanese teens are playing these incomprehensible (to most Westerners) video games. One appeared to be involving these humanised cartoon sausages, and the player made them do stuff by playing a real Kodo drum set into the game console. No joystick, no paddles, no buttons, just the drum and driumsticks.

I can't wait until the Yakuza bring that one to one of the arcades on Granville Street in Vancouver--we have the Asian video games brought in illegally, years before the US or the rest of Canada.

[Fenris]

5. Suck face...oh, Henry Fonda, a nation turns it's lonely eyes to you!

Be surprised that I can make that joke...I'm only 20.

Still, it makes me feel old; I shouldn't be able to make jokes like that.

Anyone who dresses up like a damn vampire or who shops at Hot Topic isn't a Goth. In high school, we referred to them as poseur Goths, the ones who bought into the idea that the best way to be a noncomformist was to conform to the idea of nonconformity.

And what dance thing are you talking about? Dance Dance Revolution? If that's it, then you should know that the point of that game is that the Japanese have figured out a way to get kids to spend 20 quid on absolutely nothing.

[BlondieK143]

9. You're not old.

So it's okay, applause for the joke. And even if you were old - no biggie. Nice to see someone around my age on here though.

lol there you go, poseur or whatever. I don't really keep up with the terminology but that's another thing that bothers me. It's all about "selling out" and "poser this" or he's not "punk" enough. Blah blah blah.

That's it! *smacks forehead* I forgot about Japan!

[Fenris]

12. Yeah, we were just really cynical about everyone in HS

The Goth thing got to me though, mainly because I listened to "Goth" music and didn't want to wear a cape.

[BlondieK143]

16. A cape??

That would be um, interesting? Can I be Bat Woman? ;-)

[CanuckAmok]

22. "You want to help stop war, well we reject your application...

...you crack to may jokes and you eat meat..."

Wow, do 'kids' still argue about whether someone's 'punk' or 'goth' enough? Heh, maybe I'm not as old as I think...

[BlondieK143]

27. Unfortunately, yes.

But there's like 40 other things as well. Ya know, punk/emo/sad little white boy/hardcore... etc.

[leftist_rebel1569]

26. Dance Dance Revolution?

That's like the most fun game i've ever played :)

I know, it really looks pointless...I thought that way before I started playing it. Then I started playing it and found out how much fun it was, and now I play it as often as I can.

[TrogL]

3. There's some down the street

Some are fleeing uncomfortable home situations.

[Bertha Venation]

7. HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Hardly. HEyHEY, meet my sixteen-year-old niece, Chelsye. Grungy? No. Smoke/drugs? No. Depressed, angst-ridden, contrary, cynical, all the rest? Hell, yes.

I don't think their day will ever end.

But on a positive note, when we spoke on the phone last night, we discussed the election, and she said she wished she were old enough to vote so she could vote against Bush. :7

[MAlibdem]

8. Definitely not

They own 1/8 of our cafeteria. I think there was a correlation between 9/11 and their population growth (which has to be 8 fold over the last 4 years).

[pink_poodle]

13. Maybe in America but if you ask any young person about 9/11...........

here in Canada or about America, they have no interest and couldn't care less. You instantly see their eyes glaze over. Older adults here have more interest but the young people just think everything is so corrupt and they just don't involve themselves or care.

[Fenris]

10. Nope. They've always existed.

At least since the 50s. They will continue to exist. The universe of the Mall Rats is expanding.

[cosmicdot]

18. I'd agree with that.

"Where the kids hang out around 7-11s ... complain about how pointless life is and never go anywhere......they just sit around, watch movies, smoke dope ..."

sounds like my hometown c. 1972

my younger sister's '72 Senior year yearbook was totally "Grunge" ...
from cover to cover ...



Playing games on the dance floor
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3437819.stm

http://www.ddrfreak.com/

[pink_poodle]

11. We were just like them. We all went through the same thing.............

back in our own days. I mean the early 70's for me. I was just like these kids, hanging out or at another kid's house when the parents were at work. Just smoking ciggies, pot, listening to music, cynical, fed-up, just a real know-it-all. It's just a phase till you get a little bit of direction or so totally bored. Normally one person in the group gets focused and everyone else finds their path too.

[HEyHEY]

14. I've never understood it

I was never like that really.....I mean we hung out and smoke and all that....but not at malls and we didn't piss and moan about how pointless life was. But I guess growing up where I did was different. I was close to so much nature that we did a lot of canoeing, or fishing, amd things like that. A lot of times we built stuff too. ANd I used to skateboard...so downtown was a place I hung out often as well. Maybe I was just lucky.

But naturally, being Vancouver, there was the best dry sarcastic sens of humour in everything.

[pink_poodle]

15. I was living in cities, so maybe small towns are a bit..................

different? But in cities, kids are more boxed in and have basically houses or malls to go to.

[HEyHEY]

17. I grew up in Vancouver

BUt we stilll had quick access to everything

[undergroundpanther]

19. 70's

Hmm in the 70's I was too much of an outcast to hang out.
I wore a cape,and my hair was made pink from poke berry juice(there was no manic panic).
Back in the 70's there was no "goth" and if you were different and I was very artistic ,you got scapegoated for it.
I would make my own clothes and design them,because "normal clothes" are ugly to me. I hate modern average Joe fashion it's friggin ugly.I still think modern fashion is ugly.I do concede on jeans they are not the most attractive leg covers by themselves but they do make a great leg cover/ base to work with and to add things to because of the comfortableness and practicality of them.

I wear my own designs even today a sorta Egyptian,funky,ancient Gothic(too colorful to be goth)stuff that combines a colorful pop arty mind twisting patterns with different ancient cultures dress.I wear what *I* think is pretty and the whole world's opinions be damned .
Life is too short to even try to fit in with fickle people who have no aesthetic sense. Ironically the kids who were complete jerks to me in the presence of their Friends often asked me where I got my stuff privately.Sometimes after they discovered they could not buy it anywhere they'd do a lame version of what I made and try to say they just decided to wear it,than all the bully kids sycophants would wear something similar.
Middle school,High school can be sad sad times in ones life.

I am glad I am an adult now.No more "peers" or parents tying to shape me for their own benefit.
All I ever wanted is to be happy,create, and be comfortable in my own body and mind,and to find out who I am.It seems every parent,peer or support. I was subjected to was hellbent in making sure I was neither comfortable or knew myself.
I was lucky I learned this lesson about this bullying sickness in people early on and never bought into it.Sure I got hurt beaten etc,But I never would submit..

[CanuckAmok]

23. It's the only thing dry in Vancouver--the wit.

Heh, did you skate the fountain at the Bentall Centre, HEyHEY?

[HEyHEY]

28. Nah have never done that...there's only been a couple years

With enough cold to do so.

[CanuckAmok]

20. NO! It can't be, because then there's be no need...

...for "Suburbia II", and a world without a sequel to that benchmark of film artistry is a world I can do without.

[Kamika]

21. They exist but they chat now

Or write blogs on how miserable they are

[leftist_rebel1569]

24. I'd pretty much consider myself one

although I typically spend my time at a certain friend's house other than a 7-11 (hell, they don't even have 7-11's in my area), what you pretty much described is someone like me. So, we do still exist