real chili.....with beans or without beans

[cabraverde]

I say chili is not chili if it has no beans. With out beans its just meat sauce.

I sent my girlfriend to the store to and she came back with 2 cans or chili with beans and 2 cans without beans! I think the without beans might work on a hotdog, but its not fit to eat alone.

[Ptah]

1. I think you are being

:silly:

[cabraverde]

2. Not sure what that means

Its not like I am going to dump her or anything over it, its just that I was kind of surprised. I had a friend come over and tell me that "real" chili does not have beans in it. He said chili is a texas food, and they dont use beans.

I told him "well you know the only thing that comes from texas are steers and crappy presidents"

[Ptah]

5. I was trying to say it is silly to proclaim an absolute. anywhere.

[hisownpetard]

36. Those are *two* things, not one.

[SammyWinstonJack]

3. Without beans.

[Robeson]

4. Has to have beans.

[The Magistrate]

6. That It Does, Sir

[alarimer]

7. I agree

Real chili should be a meal, not just hot dog topping.

[harmonicon]

8. oh dear.... this old debate

First, I think it's most important to point out that if you're eating it from a can, you have no business in complaining.

Lots of people will tell you that it can not have beans - this is a rule in lots of chili cook-offs. It is a texas thing.... and it's stupid. I like it with meat, but when I make it, it's almost always with just beans - no meat at all. I use black beans, kidney beans, chili powder, tomatoes and/or tomato paste, fresh garlic and a few other spices. You can also put loads of other things in. Once a friend and I were going to make chili, but we didn't because there was a big argument about what can and can't go into chili.

Don't be too mad at your girlfriend. I also agree that it's not fit as a meal by itself anyway. I like to add raw onion, cheese, sour cream.... then have it with tortilla chips or bread.

[cabraverde]

9. I do not normaly eat it from a can, I make my own with venison and sausage

Its just been pretty hectic around here with the holidays and all, plus with me leaving for the army in a few days I cant see the point in making a vat of chili.

I agree that just chili is not a good meal; I eat mine with cheese, usualy I slap it between 2 slices of bread and make akind of a sloppy joe. Recently I have become quite fond of stuffing a pita pocket full of chili and eating that way, super yummy.

[harmonicon]

23. pita pocket - good idea

I completely forgot about sausage. Chili purists would cringe, but sometimes my mom makes it with sausage, and I like it a lot. Good luck heading off for the army - stay safe.

[DS1]

10. I go either way

as long as I'm having chili.


and I like it on white rice, too, so suck it take that!

[spinbaby]

12. It's really good on rice

With a sprinkle of cheese and some chopped onions. Yum.

[EstimatedProphet]

11. With beans, please

Bulks it up.

[MorningGlow]

13. Beans. Absolutely.

Of course, Mr. MG would negate my vote. He loves a recipe from one of our soups, stews, etc. cookbooks called "Bowl o' Red"--chunks of meat. Sauce. That's it. That's not my idea of chili; that's meat in sauce.

[MrCoffee]

14. The International Chili Society (sanctioning body of chili cook-offs)

prohibits the inclusion of beans in official entries.

http://www.chilicookoff.com/Event/Event_Rules.asp


it ain't chili if it has beans or comes in a can.

[ThomCat]

33. They must have ties to the meat industry.

Because anyone that says that chili cannot have beans in it is either a fool, or paid to be a fool. x(

[Greyskye]

15. It's not the beans, it's the heat!

Gotta have some heat for real chili!

(this has been around for ages, but there still might be a couple people out there who haven't read it before)

Matt: "Recently, I was honored to be selected as a judge at a chili cook-off. The original person called in sick at the last moment and I happened to be standing there at the judge's table asking for directions to the Coors Light truck, when the call came in. I was assured by the other two judges (Native Texans) that the chili wouldn't be all that spicy and, besides, they told me I could have free beer during the tasting, so I accepted."

Here are the scorecard notes from the event:

CHILI #1 - MIKE'S MANIAC MONSTER CHILI...
Judge #1 -- A little too heavy on the tomato. Amusing kick.

Judge #2 -- Nice, smooth tomato flavor. Very mild.

Judge #3 (Matt) -- Holy shit, what the hell is this stuff? You could remove dried paint from your driveway. Took me two beers to put the flames out. I hope that's the worst one. These Texans are crazy.

CHILI #2 - AUSTIN'S AFTERBURNER CHILI...
Judge #1 -- Smokey, with a hint of pork. Slight jalapeno tang.

Judge #2 -- Exciting BBQ flavor, needs more peppers to be taken seriously.

Judge #3 -- Keep this out of the reach of children. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to taste besides pain. I had to wave off two people who wanted to give me the Heimlich maneuver. They had to rush in more beer when they saw the look on my face.

CHILI #3 - FRED'S FAMOUS BURN DOWN THE BARN CHILI.
Judge #1 -- Excellent firehouse chili. Great! kick.

Judge #2 -- A bit salty, good use of peppers.

Judge #3 -- Call the EPA. I've located a uranium spill. My nose feels like I have been snorting Drano. Everyone knows the routine by now. Get me more beer before I ignite. Barmaid pounded me on the back, now my backbone is in the front part of my chest. I'm getting shit-faced from all of the beer.

CHILI #4 - BUBBA'S BLACK MAGIC...
Judge #1 -- Black bean chili with almost no spice. Disappointing.

Judge #2 -- Hint of lime in the black beans. Good side dish for fish or other mild foods, not much of a chili.

Judge #3 -- I felt something scraping across my tongue, but was unable to taste it. Is it possible to burn out taste buds? Sally, the beer maid, was standing behind me with fresh refills. That 300-LB woman is starting to look HOT... just like this nuclear waste I'm eating! Is chili an aphrodisiac?

CHILI #5 - LISA'S LEGAL LIP REMOVER...
Judge #1 -- Meaty, strong chili. Cayenne peppers freshly ground, adding considerable kick. Very impressive.

Judge #2 -- Chili using shredded beef, could use more tomato. Must admit the cayenne peppers make a strong statement.

Judge #3 -- My ears are ringing, sweat is pouring off my forehead and I can no longer focus my eyes. I farted and four people behind me needed paramedics. The contestant seemed offended when I told her that her chili had given me brain damage. Sally saved my tongue from bleeding by pouring beer directly on it from the pitcher. I wonder if I'm burning my lips off. It really pisses me off that the other judges asked me to stop screaming. Screw those rednecks.

CHILI #6 - VERA'S VERY VEGETARIAN VARIETY...!
Judge #1 -- Thin yet bold vegetarian variety chili. Good balance of spices and peppers.

Judge #2 -- The best yet. Aggressive use of peppers! , onions and garlic. Superb.

Judge #3 -- My intestines are now a straight pipe filled with gaseous, sulfuric flames. I shit on myself when I farted and I'm worried it will eat through the chair. No one seems inclined to stand behind me except that Sally. Can't feel my lips anymore. I need to wipe my ass with a snow cone.

CHILI #7 - SUSAN'S SCREAMING SENSATION CHILI...
Judge #1 -- A mediocre chili with too much reliance on canned peppers.

Judge #2 -- Ho hum, tastes as if the chef literally threw in a can of chili peppers at the last moment. **I should take note that I am worried about Judge #3. He appears to be in a bit of distress as he is cursing uncontrollably.

Judge #3 -- You could put a grenade in my mouth, pull the pin, and I wouldn't feel a thing. I've lost sight in one eye, and the world sounds like it is made of rushing water. My shirt is covered with chili, which slid unnoticed out of my mouth. My pants are full of lava to match my shirt. At least during the autopsy, they'll know what killed me. I've decided to stop breathing, it's too painful Screw it; I'm not getting any oxygen anyway. If I need air, I'll just such it in through the 4-inch hole in my stomach.

CHILI #8 - BIG TOM'S TOENAIL CURLING CHILI...
Judge #1 -- The perfect ending, this is a nice blend chili. Not too bold but spicy enough to declare its' existence.

Judge #2 -- This final entry is a good, balanced chili. Neither mild nor hot. Sorry to see that most of it was lost when Judge #3 farted, passed out, fell over and pulled the chili pot down on top of himself. Not sure if he's going to make it. Poor feller, wonder how he'd have reacted to really hot chili?

Judge #3 -- No Report

[momto3]

16. Must have beans.

Cincinnati style is the best. Chili with beans, onions and mounds of grated cheddar cheese piled on top of spaghetti.

Now I'm hungry.

[HughBeaumont]

17. Since the only kind of beans I'll ever eat are raw green . . .

. . . you know what my answer is gonna be.

Cooked beans are a giant hell no for me. Kidney, lima, wax, blue lake, garbanzo . .. hells NO on all of that. Too many painful memories of having to gag down those nasty tasting things when I was a kid.

[supernova]

18. A small amount of beans for texture

is good. I like mostly meat.

[texas1928]

19. Chili is not supposed to have beans.

If it has beans it is Chili con carne. And yes I am a native Texan. And we are picky about our chili.

[cabraverde]

25. con carne is spanish for "with meat"....nothing about beans

[texas1928]

27. You are right...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chili_con_carne

but for us in Texas. Chili with beans in it, is Chili con carne.

[qb]

20. With beans, without meat. Vegetarian chili is the best!

[cabraverde]

26. yuck...thats just nasty

[MissMillie]

21. meat sauce doesn't have hot peppers in it

it is the meat and peppers that make chili, not the beans....


at least so say chili purists.

[Burma Jones]

22. No Beans

Beans are garnish

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

24. Both -- with a side order of jalapeno's

[youthere]

28. I'll take mine with Beans and no meat.

[cabraverde]

29. tomoato stew and beans?

[youthere]

31. With lots of peppers and onions. MMMM.

[Yavin4]

30. Without The Beans, How Are You Gonna Fart Afterwards?

Nice long, loud farts are the signs of a good meal.

[ThomCat]

32. Chili isn't even food if it has meat in it.

:puke:


Of course, I'm I vegan, so what do I know. :P

[Arkansas Granny]

34. Purists will tell you that real chili has no beans, but I prefer mine with.

[Rosemary2205]

35. Chili out of a CAN??

That's just pitiful..........


:)

[Jamastiene]

37. Bingo.

You even covered what I was going to say about chili without beans being suitable for hot dogs. That was a perfect summation.