Go straight to hell, boys

[swag]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sei-eEjy4g

[Blue-Jay]

1. You have a real talent for finding shit that I never heard of but end up liking.

[swag]

7. In the immortal words of Ethel Percy Andrus,

"To serve and not to be served."

[Blue-Jay]

8. In the immortal words of Rod Serling,

"To Serve Man! It's a cookbook!"

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

2. Speaking of hell,

what the HELL was THAT!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Kucinich4America]

3. Joe Strummer is doing cartwheels in his grave

And I'm about to puke buckets :puke:

[progressoid]

4. Quick, watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=576x7KIKjGw

[Kucinich4America]

5. Ah Thanks!

I feel much better now.

[swag]

6. Given Joe Strummer's own copious reggae, dub, and hip-hop appropriations,

I'm sure he would have adored it.

[ghostsofgiants]

9. I was about to say the same thing.

[Kucinich4America]

10. I'm just tired of the whole "sampling" thing.

Whatever happened to writing music?

When did Bob Marley or Peter Tosh ever need to steal someone else's songs?

At least when Mick Jones did it on "The Globe" he was sampling himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH0pGEpbI5A

[swag]

11. Well, Bob Marley took the vocal bridge for

"Buffalo Soldier" from the theme song of the late-sixties kids show "The Banana Splits."

That's for starters.

[Kucinich4America]

12. You think he really did that on purpose though?

I know exactly which part you mean. I don't know if they had the Banana Splits on TV back in Jamaica, but it would have been really funny on the sacred herb, I guess.

[swag]

13. The Banana Splits gave me the creeps when I was a kid.

I reckon you're right, though - would be fun to watch it stoned.

[mitchum]

37. They were creepy, but their nemeses The Sour Grape Bunch gave me...

uh...uh...uh...something else.
I was a precocious kid.

[rockymountaindem]

21. That's neither here nor there

I think if it was a good remake/cover, that would be one thing. This one just suckssss, however.

[swag]

23. I disliked the original, myself.

Couldn't listen to the Clash after Sandanista.

So for me, M.I.A.'s number represents a significant improvement.

[rockymountaindem]

24. Difference of opinion then

"Straight to Hell" is one of my favorite Clash songs.

[swag]

28. It'll happen.

[mitchum]

33. I never cared for the studio version, but always thought it came off better live

re: Sandanista
I have a friend who was crazy about all of the rest of the Clash's output(even Cut The Crap...go figure), but he could never get into that album. I told him that it may be due to the fact that he never indulged in...uh...greenery. It is a great experience under those conditions.

[Shakespeare]

14. They're playing the shit out of that song here in LA.

Curiously, it's in high rotation on one of the big adult alternative stations AND the cutting-edge music show on our NPR station, the awesome KCRW. Catchy, but I find the gunshot sampling a little disturbing.

[graywarrior]

15. Cheer up, you miserable fuck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pSyuo2UL5Q&feature=related

[RetroLounge]

18. That's great!

:hi:

RL

[graywarrior]

19. I just discovered him.

[Radical Activist]

16. Interesting take on the song.

Although, the new lyrics are unimaginative and the singer's voice isn't very good.

[RetroLounge]

17. Another no-talent hack slealing riffs from a master...

Strummer's ghost should kick her ass...

RL

[ghostsofgiants]

22. Like swag said upthread, Strummer would have probably loved M.I.A.

He was a major supporter of hip-hop, dub and reggae in his day.

[RetroLounge]

25. He also wrote his own songs and had more talent

in his pinky than these riff-stealing hacks have in their entire bodies.

Sampling is for lazy bums who can't write their own music, can't play their own instruments, and live without their stidio masters suck donkey balls.

Strummer's catalogue will thankfully be played for a long long time.

These music thiefs will disappear pretty quickly.

The ONLY benefit is maybe someone too young to remember or know of the clash will be inspired to go back and find what real music sounded like.

RL

[ghostsofgiants]

30. No, sampling is not just for lazy bums with no talent.

But I know the entire argument will be a waste of effort, so why bother?

[RetroLounge]

31. Whatever...

It's cut-and-paste collage art taken to music...

Sometimes it's clever, most times, not.

RL

[mitchum]

32. Sampling is an art form for those who can't distinguish a waiter from a chef

it certainly takes some skill to be a competent waiter, but it still doesn't mean that he can necessarily cook

[ghostsofgiants]

39. I'm not sure I like that analogy...

When it comes to art and music it's all about aesthetic. There are a lot of talented musicians or artists who enjoy the aesthetic of sampling or collage (to use Retro's example). Max Ernst, for example, has an extensive amount of collage art, but that doesn't mean he wasn't also a great painter. It's all to do with aesthetic and changing the context of the original sample.

And of course there ARE lazy bums who use samples for the reasons of laziness and limited talent (See: Puff Daddy) but to characterize everyone who does as such is ridiculous.

But I'm at the point now where I don't even have the energy to argue about this every time it comes up.

[mitchum]

41. That's why I was careful to use the "necessarily" in my analogy...

I agree with you that it is not absolute. Some waiters can cook.
However, for me, when it comes to art and music it's all about aesthetic AND craft.

Hell, I spent yesterday afternoon performing with some people and all I did was play tape loops through a filter and some delays. But I am also proficient at playing "real" instruments. Some of us can cook and wait tables :)

[ghostsofgiants]

43. And to me the craft of sampling/beatmaking is a great one.

It's not easy to make good stuff, trust me.

But as long as you don't write it off completely, that's all I can ask, haha.

[mitchum]

38. C'mon, RL...Soho's "Hippie Chick" is now a classic...

and no one remembers the Smiths
See how wrong you are :)

[mitchum]

20. I know that I am supposed to like her, but she's really just not very good...

I saw her "live" a couple of years ago
the empress was naked

[Ava]

27. i get pissed off at people for acting like just

because something is "different" it's amazing and awesome, not that everyone who likes M.I.A. is that way. most of the people that i know personally that like her are that way though. but hey, who are we to judge. ;)

[mitchum]

35. Ava, you give me hope for the future

honestly

[Ava]

26. i'm not a M.I.A. fan

different yes.
not my type of music though.

M.I.A. isn't "indie" anymore either. She's pretty mainstream now with young folks. I've got friends that got turned onto her whenever she started getting on MTV.

[swag]

29. I'm too old to care about indie cred any more.

I just want something snappy on my iPod.

[mitchum]

34. You're also too smart to care about indie cred

I believe that you and I are geezers from the same period, and I suspect that you may agree with me that it appears to suck to be young and hip now. That identity is now more commodified than ever.

[EstimatedProphet]

36. While we're on the subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NVfuSFREmU&feature=related

[helderheid]

40. I've not heard that in YEARS!

[GoneOffShore]

42. Pretty girl - "Musically" lacking

No real talent, just "a bit cheeky".

Riding whatever celebrity gravy train that her "novelty" act will buy her a ticket for.

As someone said Joe Strummer is spinning.