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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:23 PM
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The latest phrase being beaten to death - "Having said that..." or "That said,..."
What a ridiculous phrase, right up there with "if you will...". Well, what if I *won't*?

Dan Abrams does this all the time.
He makes a statement, then says, "That being said...".

Well, if I'm listening to you, I already KNOW that that was said.

It's like saying, "Now that I got the PC thing out of the way, lemme tell you how I really feel."

Does this annoy anyone else?

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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:32 PM
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1. Absolutely
But, for beaten-to-death phrases, it doesn't torque me off as much as "At the end of the day..." That one just makes me :puke:
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:01 PM
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4. Oh, yeah. How dumb is that?
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:34 PM
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2. Yes, it annoys me.
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 02:35 PM by calico1
As do any overused phrases. Another one I dislike:

"At the end of the day....." I hate that one.

Edit: I meant "day" not "game." Can we overuse that one any more?
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:36 PM
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10. Yeah, that's another one that's cloying.
:hi:
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:49 PM
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3. "it is what it is"
i hate that one!
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:36 PM
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11. Another bunch of words, signifying nothing.
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montanto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:05 PM
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5. I hate cliche, especially
mixed ones. You hear crap like this all the time in the MSM: "well, we needed someone to step up to the plate, but we were on a learning curve, so right off the bat it was a train-wreck."

Gack! why can't you just say you were stupid and fucked it up!??
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:40 PM
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13. I hate cliches with a burning passion. They rub me the wrong way.
And whenever you rub me the wrong way, my passion burns a little.
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matcom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:07 PM
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6. I MUCH prefer "like, such as"
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:38 PM
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12. Proof of the fallacy of "No Child Left Behind."
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:14 PM
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7. The bottom line is...
such phrases are so clicheish.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:57 PM
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15. Another MAJOR annoyance: "If I'm _______," as in "If I'm Edwards, I'm holding
lots of Q&A sessions, I'm speaking up..."


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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:00 PM
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16. I hear you and
If I'm Edwards, I'm holding lots of Q & A sessions, too. :evilgrin:
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:15 PM
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8. AGAIN with this jibba-jabba?
Mr. T is not amused.

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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:35 PM
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9. Which bracelet of his do you like most?
I like the 43rd one on his right wrist - it's so delicate!
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:58 PM
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17. i'm jonesing on the ring on his index finger, left hand
it's soooo big!
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:19 PM
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19. Yes, it's bigger by far than all the rest.
Good eye!
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:41 PM
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14. I hate "...anytime soon."
As in, "that won't happen anytime soon."
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:05 PM
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18. For me, it's "notsomuch."
"I like Obama. Clinton? Notsomuch."

Clumsy construction trying to look clever.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 05:46 PM
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20. Depends on context
If one uses "Having said that" or something simply as a sort of link to what they'll say next, then it's superfluous. But, some such device is often needed to signal a shift in point. For example:

The Dodgers, statistically, have the third-best pitching staff in the National League. Be that as it may, it's rare for them to win more than three or four games in a row.

Usually, though, "however" or even "but" work just as well, and they're much more economical.



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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:27 PM
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21. I'm all for 'economy of means.' Be that as it may, sometimes the use of more words
instead of less comes in handy, especially when one is being paid by the lb

Dickens, anyone?:hi:
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DeposeTheBoyKing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:04 PM
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22. I think that one phrase killed my mother
She used to complain about hearing Roy Turner, former head coach of the former indoor soccer team the Wichita Wings, say "Having said that" CONSTANTLY. She died 21 years ago tomorrow. Thanks, Roy!

(she really died of colon cancer, but man, she HATED hearing that phrase!)
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 08:59 PM
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23. Be that as it may
...all three of those have their uses.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 10:18 PM
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24. Sound like they have jumped the shark
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