Loony Clooney blames Iraq war on Lewinsky BJ

[Loonman]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2003362495,00.html
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I wonder if he knows that watching paint dry is only slightly more interesting than "Solaris".

[DODI]

1. I don't think that is so "loony"

It did have a lot to do with Shrub getting in and the grand PNAC plan of war on Iraq. Gore did have to distance himself from Billy because of all of that crap. In my more paranoid moments I do wonder if Monica was a "plant". Now with Arnold and the amendment to the Constitution to allow foreign borns into the White House, the Texas stuff, the Diebold stuff, my paranid moments are more and more frequent. The only error I see in this is that Gore did win. That gets forgotten a lot.

[DarkPhenyx]

3. Gore didn't win.

He lost. Reguardless of how you view that election, he lost. Either because the Electoral College and SCotUS screwed us, or the Bush Administration cheated. In the end, they played the game better and used every advantage and dirty trick they could think of. That includes Monica. I wouldn't be surprised that the entire Republican plan was not to bring down the Clinton Presidency, but to prevent a Gore Presidency.

[DODI]

4. Agreed n/t

[DarkPhenyx]

2. Well, bizzare as the statement is...

...there is a small amount of validity to it. Had Al been able, or more willing, to better capitalize on Bill's popularity that might have offset Bush and company enough to win the election. If a Democrat had won the election we wouldn't be in Iraq right now. Hell, considering what is coming out in drips and drabs, we might have been able to prevent, or mitigate, the attacks on the Pentagon and the WTC.

Now I'm not going to sit here and call Monica the Yoko Ono of the Democratic presidency, but teh incident definately didn't help.

[wyldwolf]

5. Well, let's dissect his statements...

Clooney reckons the famous stain-on-the-dress incident meant vice president AL GORE had to distance himself from Clinton

Whether Al Gore HAD to or not to win is open for debate. Many people NOW say that had he not distanced himself from Clinton, he would have won. The same political minds at the time thought it was a good idea for Gore to distance himself. BUT we know Al Gore DID distance himself from Clinton during the campaign because of Clinton's troubles. In Gore's mind, he HAD to do it.

so losing the US election to GEORGE BUSH.

Bush is in the White House now. If Gore had embraced Clinton more during the campaign, would he have garnered more votes so that it wasn't as close as it was? Maybe. maybe not.

Loony Clooney said: “It’s ridiculous — Lewinsky performs a sex act on the president therefore we attack Iraq.”

If Clooney is referring to our most recent war with Iraq, he is correct. If there had never been the blue dress, and the repugs had had no trumped bogus cause for impeachment, and all their dirty tricks had been headed off, and Al Gore had NOT distanced himself from Clinton, and had won the election by so many votes it could not have even been called close, then Gore would be in the White House and there would have been no attack on Iraq.

Remember, Gore DID distance himself from Clinton because of the Lewinsky situation and that position - not campaigning on the Clinton peace and prosperity record - cost him votes.

Yes, the fix was in but had Gore won by a landslide, the fix would be MUCH more obvious to everyone.

[FlashHarry]

6. Let's take it a step further...

...the whole 'Arkansas Project' thing opened the Clintons up to massive investigation. Louis Freeh, then head of the FBI and famous luddite (he hated e-mail and had the computer removed from his office), was a rabid Clinton-hater and lapdog of the Scaife crowd. If the FBI had spent a little more time investigating terrorism, who knows? Would there have even been a 9/11?

Frankly, I'm amazed that the Millenium bombings were foiled, considering the hostile climate the Clinton admin. was facing at the time.

[DarkPhenyx]

7. Now that's a thought...

...I hadn't had before. It does make one wonder just how much the "Clinton Investigation", which were sole a Republican/Conservative fabrication, had on the failure to detect/prevent Sept 11. Very intersting.

[nuxvomica]

8. Didn't Ken Starr get 40-50 of the top FBI investigators to work for him?

Would they have been investigating terrorism instead? Maybe not but they could have been doing work that those who would've were doing instead.

[FlashHarry]

9. Yep. I believe so.

After the millennium plot , the East Africa bombings and the USS Cole incident, the FBI should have been going at its counterterrorism duties full-throttle. Instead, many of its top agents were investigating Clinton at the behest of Ken Starr.

[DarkPhenyx]

10. Isn't that special.

I guess that Bil Clinton really did cause the events of Sept 11th. Wow, the Freepers were right.

[FlashHarry]

11. Huh?

[DarkPhenyx]

13. Sorry.

That was sarcasm. I should have labeled it as such. My bad.

[Maddy McCall]

12. That's the problem with news snippets...oversimplified...

I have heard other remarks by Clooney and he is FAAAARRR from looney. Haven't you guys noticed that it's hard to diagnose a problem or explain a complex issue in a thirty second news snippet or in a paragraph in a news rag?

That is the problem with the American public...they take the scant info presented in such articles and make sweeping judgements about complex issues.

I would suggest that anyone who thinks George Clooney is stupid look at other quotations by him or at other articles written about his political activism.

I really pity people whose stream runs wide and shallow instead of narrow and deep. Spend more time researching the issue...don't mark up anyone as crazy or not based on a paragraph or a CNN 10 second analysis.

[Hubert Flottz]

14. I think it's the smartest thing I've see in a long while!

It's the truth too and that is rare! Clinton's 5 minutes of fun made the world full of men of constant sorrow! Two Gun issues cost Gore the election! Clinton's gun and Heston's Guns! Factor in a few men in robes on the take, and it equals an unequaled critical mass of misery!