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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:22 PM
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The Monkees
An abomination of cultural intrusion or a Trojan horse or, just shit happening once again.

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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:30 PM
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1. I think a lot of their music is pretty good actually...

:shrug:

I'd say way under rated.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:38 PM
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3. Well they had the pop machine writing their best songs
Carole King, Neil Diamond, Mike Nesmith (yes, he is a popsmith), Gerry Goffin and others wrote their tunes.

Good popcrafting actually!
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:46 PM
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4. True..that helped.

Still, Mike Nesmith certainly had song writing talent, and Micky was no slouch as a vocalist.

Pretty good pop music to my ears.

Here are some of my favorites:

She
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYwctRYxuS8

--

Mary Mary
(Paul Butterfield described this as a great white blues song. Written by Michael Nesmith.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OUpaWrU-H4

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Vallerie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3N3vuYPHlHg

======

Papa Gene's Blues
(written by Nesmith, I believe)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XWhv8-RH4w



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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:55 PM
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6. No I think they were good. They were produced, and they were great.
All that talent behind them.

However, today it seems the manufactured pop stars aren't great. They just are.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:56 PM
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7. No kidding...

..and Tin Pan Alley is dead.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:58 PM
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9. Problem is the focus group everything to death, not so that it's good art...
But that it sells to the lowest common denominator.

Back then they just assumed catchy music would sell.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:31 PM
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2. Headquarters
Check out that album - it proves they're far more real than some of the phonies who HAVE gotten admitted into the R&R Hall of Fame...
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:52 PM
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5. I loved the Monkees
as a band, but except for a quick infatuation with Davy (I was 10, kay?), I just enjoyed their music.

Ironically, I've been playing a lot of old songs, including Linda Ronstadt singing Different Drum, written, of course, by Mike Nesmith. (Yes, a couple of Monkees tunes are on my playlist as well). Not only being heir to the Wite Out fortune, Mike Nesmith actually was a talented musician. In fact, except for their fabricated image, every one of the four had some credibility in the music area.

I doubt if that kind of campiness could survive nowadays, but it was acceptable in an era where individuality was cherished, not laughed at.
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:57 PM
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8. Michael Nesmith is a God of early 70s country rock...
and his mom invented Liquid Paper.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 07:58 PM
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10. Early innovator of music videos too. (Mike)
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 07:59 PM by skooooo
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:02 PM
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11. He was the money behind Repo Man
So he can not only write awesome pop songs, he can see genius at work.
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:07 PM
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12. Saturday mornings for this kid. nt
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:22 PM
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13. Oh yeah, I remember that...
Fun times. :-)
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:29 PM
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14. I would usually spend Friday night with my best friend
She was the youngest of six kids. On Saturday mornings we'd pony up to the TV for cartoons, Tarzan with Ron Ely, and the Monkees. Great times!
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:31 PM
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15. The Monkees helped Jimi Hendrix.
The Monkees gave the Jimi Hendrix Experience their first US concert appearances.
It should be noted that Hendrix's heavy psychedelic guitar and sexual overtones
did not go overly well with the teenage girl audience.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkees

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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:36 PM
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16. Actually, they weren't too bad, especially when you consider
what's out there currently. Headquarters is just about my favorite album ever. I watched the original show on Monday night at 7:30. I can still remember coming home from England that summer, calling a friend to tell her I was back and hearing all about this new show that was coming on in September. Monday nights were good tv - The Monkees and Rat Patrol.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:42 PM
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17. I loved how just about every DC hardcore band did a cover of "Not Your Stepping Stone"
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:44 PM
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18. It's pretty punk!
:headbang:
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:47 PM
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20. Minor Threat's version = good times.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:48 PM
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22. I'm learning about so many bands..

..by hanging out in the Lounge. So many things I haven't heard before!
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:51 PM
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23. I'm one of the Lounge's resident music nerds.
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 08:53 PM by primate1
I'm bound to talk about bands no one's ever heard of at some point. :P

(Though Minor Threat is definitely not a band that no one has ever heard of.)
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:57 PM
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24. Do you a good place on the web...

...to order foreign CDs??
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:32 PM
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26. I dunno, if I want a CD I usually have a local shop order it in.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 10:48 PM
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27. It's funny...
there was a thread last night about bands you've seen live...and I kept waiting for you to post because it seemed that it'd be easier to use your list as a checklist than trying to remember everybody I saw at work when I was bouncing in college.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 11:14 PM
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28. Haha, yeah, I honestly haven't seen that many bands live, not counting locals...
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 11:16 PM by primate1
Because hardly anyone ever comes here to play.

I've seen a few good ones though. Most recently, Queens of the Stone Age.
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:46 PM
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19. Another Pleasant Valley Sunday
Tell me, when you drive around, it isn't so?
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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 08:48 PM
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21. this is my band of my childhood
them and the beach boys....I was sure I was going to marry Peter Tork when I was old enough to. Mike Nesmith is a great singer, Monkees Headquarters was my favorite album, because it was mostly his music.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 09:00 PM
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25. I think they were really good
Sure, they were manufactured to some extent, but many bands from that time period were - the others just didn't have tv shows and weren't as open about it.
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