LOL! My mother is in a total snit right now, because I got "The Prosecution of GW for Murder" today.

[Lil Missy]

She was up when my books were delivered, and frankly, I feel she didn't have any business opening my package anyway. It also included the Scott McClellan book, which pissed her off even more. LOL!

She is a die hard Republican, and Bush supporter. She doesn't bother herself with facts or details. Everyone just picks on poor George as far as she is concerned. :eyes: But, thank God, she never votes.

I just find this kinda sorta funny, amusing, and ironic right now. She snooped in my mail! For Christ sakes! And now she is stomping and storming, pissing and moaning, and berating and dressing me up and down for "wasting money" on lies about her dear Dubya. :puke:

I am serious - she is plenty pissed right now! But SHE snooped in my mail, so I don't feel too sorry for her. If it were up to me, I would have taken the books, and not shoved them in her face.

Oh hell .....

[QueenOfCalifornia]

1. Maybe Mom

should actually read one of your books..... :eyes:

I feel sorry for you.

[Lil Missy]

2. LOL! Mom read the book?? BLASPHEMY! gw is GOD, as far as she is concerned!

And please, with the utmost respect, may I ask that you not feel it necessary to "feel sorry for me"?

My entire family, including siblings, know she is mentally unbalanced, and somewhat of a dufus. She's not easy to deal with, but she's still our mother, yanno?

No need to feel sorry. None of us are suffering.

[BeachBaby]

3. I feel your pain.

You should have seen my parents faces when I told them I went to the cinema to see "Fahrenheit 9/11". Pure shock.

And then my mother says "I can't BELIEVE you would spend your hard-earned money on the propaganda that that fat man Moore spews out of his mouth!" :rolleyes:

I, too, have the Scott McClellan book.....along with at least 10 other books that question/criticize the Bush Admin. According to my parents, I'm surely doomed to hell now. :P

[Lil Missy]

5. Yeah, I am totally going to hell too.

:eyes:

Can we hold hands when we go to hell? Nothing pervy. I just think I might get askert in hell all by myself.

:scared: :scared: :scared:

[rebel with a cause]

11. Hell is a state of mind ..

and I refuse to go there. You can join me in my peaceful rest though. ;)

[Rhiannon12866]

28. I had no idea that so many of us were in the same boat.

I sure sympathize with you, since I get the same thing. I never even hinted to my mother that I took a trip to see "F 9/11," because it wasn't playing yet in my little burg, but I thought it was important. And it was. I saw it with my BFF, also a member of this board, and his elderly father, a life-long Democratic activist, but the last movie he'd seen in the theater was "Godfather II," LOL. He approved of the movie, but was more impressed with the advances in movie theaters.:D

The theater was packed, which I thought was great, since I live in Northern NY, in a very red district. Most of the local elections are decided in the Republican primaries. The older woman who sat next to me started ranting to me about Bush* before the movie even started, and I didn't know her at all. So I told her to check out Truthout and DU. She wrote them down. :-)

My friend, also a member of DU, agrees with you, since when all this came out, she said that all the right had on Michael Moore was that he was overweight. Sad.:-(

Check out my post on this thread, since we surely agree. And I tried to order the Scottie McClennan book when it was first announced, but that was back before Christmas. This is a must-read for everyone. Kudos to you.;)

BTW, according to my mother, I'm doomed to hell, too, and my late father would be really "ashamed" of me because of my political views. I know that this isn't true, since I could discuss things with my Dad, so wish I could discuss all of this with him, but it still hurts. :-(

Rhiannon:pals:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=7920844&mesg_id=7921884

on edit, sorry, typo. :blush:

[SPKrazy]

4. Our Georgie Couldn't Be A Bad Man

and Carters doesn't make little pills and never did :D

:puke:

I feel your pain as well...

[Lil Missy]

8. Oh, of course gw could do no wrong.

That pisses me off to no end anyway.

But SHE snooped into MY mail, and has the nerve to stomp around and piss and moan about me wasting money on propaganda about her dear gw.

FUCK that shit. I would have never rubbed my reading material in her nose. And if she could have respected my privacy to open my own mail, she wouldn't be so damned pissed off right now.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!!

[SeattleGirl]

6. I just got that book too.

My mom would have wanted to read it, as she couldn't stand the Pretender in Chief.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

7. If I were you, and of course, I'm not...

I would remind your law-abiding mother that opening other people's mail is a felony...

And to stay the hell out of yours!

:eyes:

[rebel with a cause]

9. Nah, it would just start a big dramatic battle.

And if you have to share a resident, it might not be worth it. She should just start opening her mother's mail when she gets a chance and then nicely explain to her everything she has gotten. This is a way to teach by example, show her how it feels, and not with confrontation. If mom has a mental/emotional problem, then it is better to show her the error of her ways rather than try to fight with her over it. JMHO

[CaliforniaPeggy]

10. Ah, you just might have a point here...

I was just being dramatic!

I have to be very aggravated to start a fight!

Thanks for your very reasonable response...

:hi:

[rebel with a cause]

12. My health problems do not allow me to become angry anymore.

It has been a life changing experience, and I have had to learn to be more diplomatic with people. I still have a problem with being too honest for my own good.

:hi:

[Lil Missy]

14. Oh yeah, I agree with your premise that opening someone else's mail is a felony.

She does not abide by privacy issues, nor does she understand them. The operative term with her is paranoid schizophrenic. Sometimes I feel like it is more like learned helplessness, or very clever manipulation.

And, incidentally, I keep my PC password protected, because she seems to think she is entitled to read all my incoming and outgoing email messsages.

Anyways, to address your note, sure, I could put a verbal whoopin on my mom to never open my mail. And I have already done so.

But, what is my recourse if she does it anyway? Am I going to send an elderly woman, my mother, to jail? I'd feel like a total asshole, and my family would probably tear me a new asshole. And rightfully so.

This shall pass. And if she is pissed about what I read, then she needs to learn to quit opening my goddamned mail.

[Skittles]

23. how do we KNOW you're not Lil Missy, Peggy?

you could have an alias, ya know.....I would not put it past you

[OmahaBlueDog]

13. I think this is one of the tests we are all given in some form

We all learn to love our parents in spite of the things they do which piss us off.

How are the books?

[Wetzelbill]

15. I had a friend like that

But I so thoroughly stomped him over the last 5 and a half years everytime he brought politics up that he doesn't really mess with me too much anymore. Now he says he's voting for Obama. I'll believe it when I see it. :)

Oh yeah, it is funny to get people in a snit like that. Good times. :)

[Lil Missy]

17. And they are always so goddamned obtuse and fucking ignorant???

:shrug:

[Wetzelbill]

25. I find that there are people

who are so set and have their mind made up so much already that if you told them the sky was blue they wouldn't want to believe it. Then if you looked outside and showed them it was blue they would still try to argue about it and say it wasn't. Not much you can do with those folks.

[Duer 157099]

16. If you can afford to, and can deal with the hassle

maybe you can rent a PO Box type thing for awhile, just to really nail home how much you value your privacy and are willing to pay for it. Then, you can always use that like "oh no mom, I can't afford to (fill in the blank) because I have to PAY to keep my mail private, remember? Sure would be nice to not have that expense..." Who knows, a short stint of that might do the trick.

[Radio_Lady]

18. I fight a bit with my grown daughter about RELIGION... you fight with yours about POLITICS.

My mother fought with me about SEX. Those are the three taboo issues -- but it can be difficult due to many other delicate issues.

You might want to get Mother a copy of Jane Isay's book -- "Walking on Eggshells -- Navigating the Delicate Relationship Between Adult Children and Parents." (2007 book from Flying Dolphin Press)

www.walkingoneggshellsbook.com

We have just had a reunion of my husband with his youngest daughter, age 45. She has been estranged from us for about ten years. She breezed through the city last week, visited with my biological daughter, who will be 40 this October and became her stepsister through our marriage. Her father was requested to meet with her alone at a local restaurant. I had to hang back because she stated she still has issues with me. My husband's first wife and the mother of three -- died when this child was eight years old. I came along a year later to try to be a replacement stepmother to her. That plan met with limited success. It has been very painful as she rejects me and her older sister rejects her father (my husband for almost 36 years).

I tell my husband all the time -- stop being the critical parent. You have to love your children with a releasing hand. You can only suggest other opinions but you do not have the ability to crush a child's decision on how he or she wants to run a life. Get over yourself. You are not the manager of everybody anymore.

Jane Isay says:

On giving advice:
They don't want it.
They don't hear it.
They resent it.
Don't give it.

If things don't turn out with your mother, give me a holler via PM. I need another Democrat in our extended family and will happily send you my love via the Internet.

By the way, I've now heard two interviews with Victor Bugliosi (is that spelled correctly?) who has a dynamite plan to get to the bottom of Bush's errors in judgement which has sent over 4,000 souls to their death.

Why not indict Bush for MURDER?

http://www.prosecutionofbush.com/

I love it.

[Rhiannon12866]

19. Oh, my friend, I sure can sympathize with you.

My mother watches Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity and listens to Rush Limbaugh in her car. Even before I knew the slightest thing about politics, I knew he was bad news, and felt like jumping out of the car when I rode with her. As for the books, my mother is the same way. She thinks I'm some kind of subversive, LOL, because I read what I do. My mother voted for Bush* twice, loved his father and Barbara, has all her books. I try not to discuss politics with her, but sometimes it's just too much and I have to say something, so I know what you're going through. My mother was the last person in this country to believe that Nixon was guilty of anything. I once asked my mother who was responsible for 9/11, both expecting and being afraid that she'd say Saddam Hussein, but she totally blew me away when she said it was the Palestinians! But that's what you learn when you watch FIXED News. :crazy:

Rhiannon:pals:

[quakerboy]

20. My father spent about

5 seconds trying to argue the economics of health care with me today. Then he remembered that wasn't going to work.

My days of snooping in the mail are long past. As will yours be someday. have a great night.

[crimsonblue]

21. if you really want to piss her off (as well as stop the snooping)

order some crazy weird porn magazines, and she'll never open your mail ever again.

[Connonym]

22. Start ordering really kinky porn

that'll teach her to open your mail!

[Wetzelbill]

26. or maybe it'll make her open it more often?

Sort of in the Mark Foley/Larry Craig/David Vitter creepy GOP tradition. :)

[Orsino]

24. Her irony meter is broken...

...if she's opening your mail and trying to make you feel guilty about what she found.

No wonder she adores *.

[Wetzelbill]

27. Yeah but she did it for national security purposes

:)