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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 09:38 AM
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I don't think John Donne said "We Are Each Apart of a Whole"
Though it has a certain poetic coolness to it to think of it that way.

We are not just a part of a whole, but also, at the same time, apart of the whole.



(for anyone wondering what the hell I'm talking about, there was a sticky up top with this quote: "No Man is
An Island,We Are Each Apart of a Whole" John Donne.
Why they capitalized every word, I don't know. I'm just quoting it verbatim.)
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 09:57 AM
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1. I'm part of a hole
I live in Dayton, OH, one of America's most leavable cities.
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Schema Thing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 10:02 AM
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2. I do like it that way. n/t
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 10:05 AM
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3. The full quote, for the record
Edited on Thu Aug-14-08 10:06 AM by supernova
No man is an island entire of itself; every man
is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe
is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as
well as any manner of thy friends or of thine
own were; any man's death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind.
And therefore never send to know for whom
the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

MEDITATION XVII
Devotions upon Emergent Occasions



John Donne is one of my very favorites. :-)
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 10:29 AM
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4. Once upon a time, I taught this to h.s. seniors, along with "A Valediction: Forbidding Mourning".
Love JD, also!
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 10:57 AM
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5. interesting how many phrases from this are still heard so much today
and also taken out of context. (In Hemingway as well)

Wonderful ideas by a stellar poet and writer.


For more of the text - it's interesting to see how one work has continued to influence so many writers and beyond...

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Meditation_XVII
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 11:40 AM
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7. I love that passage. We sang a lovely adaptation of it in high school choir
No man is an island
No man stands alone
Each man's joy is joy to me
Each man's grief is my own

We need one another
So I will defend
Each man as my brother
Each man as my friend.

now I am getting weepy and I did not know I still knew all the words until this minute.

amazing the shit my brain retains, and the important stuff it won't
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 11:50 AM
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10. Wow, thank you! That is both beautiful and has resonated through history...
And I caught that, too, Rabrrrr... :hi:
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 10:58 AM
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6. I think that was the convention of the century in which it was written
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 11:45 AM
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8. Whenever I eat a doughnut...
The hole is part of me!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 11:47 AM
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9. I have that as part of sig line...
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-14-08 11:51 AM
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11. Deep
very deep.
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