Need the Help of DUers Around Here...

[LaydeeBug]

There is a syndrome that involves one person keeping another sick so that they can take care of them. For the life of me, I can't remember what this is, and teh google will not help. Anybody here know? :hi:

[Rabrrrrrr]

1. There is "co-dependancy", but that's not so much about making the other person sick

as it is making sure never to help them get better.

[LaydeeBug]

Not sick, exactly, in this case, but I'm sure it's something.

It is such a long and convoluted story, and I am truly an outsider in this.

I just thought there was a name for it when someone screws with your life so that they can save the day.

[LaydeeBug]

9. Not sick, exactly, in this case, but I'm sure it's something.

It is such a long and convoluted story, and I am truly an outsider in this.

I just thought there was a name for it when someone screws with your life so that they can save the day.

[SeattleGirl]

2. Munchhausen's by Proxy

Edited to add link:

http://www.mbpexpert.com/definition.html

[LaydeeBug]

6. Isn't Munchhausen's syndrome about the person making up illnesses to illicit sympathy?

:shrug:

[SeattleGirl]

7. Yes, but you are describing Munchhausen's by Proxy, wherein

one person makes another person sick on purpose, in order to elicit attention for themselves.

In Munchhausen's, the person makes themselves sick.

[LaydeeBug]

10. what if it's not "sick", but they just screw with their lives, and then swoop in and save the day?

is that something?

[SeattleGirl]

11. Well, if you aren't talking about actual illness, then it's not

Munchhausen's by Proxy.

It's just sick manipulation.

[LaydeeBug]

12. sick manipulation it is indeed. nt

[Rabrrrrrr]

8. Yes, Muchhausen's is self-directed. Munchhausen's By Proxy is directed toward another.

"My little Johnny, he's so sick, he needs to have his momma with him all the time, don't you, Johnny? Your wife can't take care of this like momma can."

[crim son]

3. Something like "Munchausen's Syndrome"?

Except I thought that was when the person made another sick to draw attention to themselves.

[GOPisEvil]

4. Munchausen's?

[Rabrrrrrr]

5. No, Munchhausen's is entirely self-directed.

[GOPisEvil]

14. Oh, I left off the "by proxy".

I was lazy. :)

[Rabrrrrrr]

16. Naughty boy. Now write it a hundred times! Maybe then you won't "forget" to do a whole job.

[GOPisEvil]

17. I'll get right on that.

Later.

[Rabrrrrrr]

18. Yeah, better take a break first. You've been working hard.

:eyes:








:rofl:

[GOPisEvil]

21. This procrastinating is rough work.

;)

[MadMaddie]

13. I think "Factitious Disorder" is what you are looking for

http://www.mbpexpert.com/definition.html

<snip>
FACTITIOUS DISORDER,
mental health diagnosis in which people deliberately exaggerate and/or fabricate and/or induce physical and/or psychological-behavioral-mental health problems in themselves.
<snip>

MUNCHAUSEN BY PROXY (MBP)

<snip>
which caretakers deliberately exaggerate and/or fabricate and/or induce physical and/or psychological-behavioral-mental health problems in others.
<snip>

[LaydeeBug]

19. what if they're doing it to someone else?

Here is but one example: PsychoLee (I will call him this to his face, so have no compunction about sharing it here) calls the LayDee to ask her to write all of the names, addresses and phone numbers down of the other friends of the object of his psychosis, we'll call him Bob so that he might throw a party in Bob's honor, because PsychoLee is very proud of Bob acing a chemistry class (BOb is a teacher and taking some advanced chemistry courses at the local college to keep his creds up). The LayDee is not that foolish and politely declines while Bob reveals he actually got a C in the course. (This might be a bad example, but it does show what lengths psychoLee will go to to stalk Bob)

[MadMaddie]

22. So he is stalking Bob that would be the definition you would be

looking for wouldn't it?

I bet if you look at the other actions of this individual they fall under the stalking definition. Bob should watch his back.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/nij/topics/crime/stalking/welcome.htm
Stalking
<snip>
Stalking behaviors also may include persistent patterns of leaving or sending the victim unwanted items or presents that may range from seemingly romantic to bizarre, following or laying in wait for the victim, damaging or threatening to damage the victim's property, defaming the victim's character, or harassing the victim via the Internet by posting personal information or spreading rumors about the victim.
<snip>

It fits in with a consistant pattern, defaming the victims character, harrassing the victim.....

Sounds like an issue that shouldn't be ignored.

[LaydeeBug]

23. This guy left his position as an education dept head at a university to teach in the same city

school system. I kid you not.

[HEyHEY]

15. Kathy Bates syndrome

[LaydeeBug]

20. something very close to it fer sure.