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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:44 PM
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Why are gay and lesbian youth self destructive?
Edited on Mon Mar-01-04 09:49 PM by dsc
It is a sad, but undeniable fact, that gay and lesbian youth have much higher incidence of suicide and addiction than straight youth. I would like to give you some possible answers.

The fact is gay and lesbian youth face, even in this day and age, a pretty consistent message from society that they are immoral, or sick. They are told they are not equal to their straight peers. Many are bullied or picked on. And unlike virtually everyone else, they have no role models to turn to when this happens. That might explain why so many of our youth are self destructive. Before you think we are entirely to blame for his, take a long hard look at the mirror society is. Maybe, just maybe, the fault isn't all ours.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:48 PM
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1. It sucked being a heterosexual teenager
I can't imagine the trauma of knowing you are gay in a society that neither respects nor protects you. Raging hormones, peer pressures and societal messages make adolescence horrible. It is 100 times worse for gays.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:49 PM
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2. growing up is hard enough
What saddens me the most is many of these young people have parents who perpetuate the very messages you talk about.

I knew the suicide rates were much higher among homosexual teenagers, but I didn't know about other self destructive behaviors. I imagine drug use would be pretty high...given the need to escape reality when life beats you down. What other behaviors are we discussing?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:51 PM
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4. Probably all sorts frankly
This was in regards to Brandon Teena's behavior but I think a lot of gay youth take risks they shouldn't on sexual fronts and others as well.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:00 PM
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13. all teenagers take stupid risks on sexual fronts
It wouldn't be fair to single out teens just because they're homosexual and say they are the ones who take sexual risks. My straight friends in highschool were FAR more whorish than my homosexual friends. In fact, my homosexual friends were very tame and mild in comparison.

Not to make light of the problems of course, self destructive behavior (ie: unsafe sex, random unknown partners, etc) should be taken very seriously if they indeed exist.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:51 PM
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3. Not to mention if they see the news now
With our so-called political and religious "leaders" condemning them constantly. It's absolutely sickening. When we read that ridiculous full-page ad in the Sunday paper, we about barfed up our morning tea (in case you didn't see it, it was by a bunch of fundie wackos thanking * for his "bravery" with the marriage issue, and even comparing him to Lincoln).

Yes, it's one more reason out of about 8,796,789 why we have to dump this monstrous administration this November.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:52 PM
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6. No I hadn't seen that one
guess I didn't miss much by not getting the Sunday paper.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:54 PM
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8. It was in both the Seattle and the New York Times
And it really pissed us off. I wonder if either paper would run a full-page ad by the Aryan Youth or the KKK? :shrug:
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:54 PM
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9. good point
although I do find comfort in knowing that my daughter hopefully won't understand what all the fuss was about back in 2004. She's 4 right now so I'm confident this will be the case. Then again, she was barely 2 when I took her to her first Gay Pride parade...I put her in a t-shirt that said "LOVE" on the front with each letter being a different color. Everyone adored her. I refuse to raise an asshole, that's for sure.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:56 PM
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11. That is a classic quote, Gloria!
"I refuse to raise an asshole." :7 I love it! (And good for you!!!)
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:51 PM
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5. Are lesbians picked on by straight girls...
...as much as gay boys are picked on by straight boys?

I know that gay boys are picked on unmercifully and could certainly see that as a reason for a higher suicide rate.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:53 PM
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7. I am really not sure
but would imagine yes. Girls can be real pistols when it comes to being bullies.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:55 PM
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10. Yes, there was a lesbian girl at my school who was
Of course her main tormentor was one of those people who just picked on everyone who was at all "different" (or had a brain, which the mean person was sadly lacking). Every school had a pack of bullies like that who peak in high school and then we never hear from any of them again.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:04 PM
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14. yes but it's done differently
girls bully differently than boys for the most part (although I understand girls are getting more and more violent these days).

It was always the stupid rumor mill. And the use of the word "dyke"...at least at my school, this was just as bad as calling a girl a "slut". Girls bully with words, looks, fake rumor stories that don't die...that sort of thing. Very under the radar.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 09:57 PM
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12. You just answered your own question
n/t
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-01-04 10:53 PM
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15. kick
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