Fuck. I got caught with pot.

[crimsonblue]

I'm at my parents' house for Xmas, and after I toned up a little bit last night, I miscalculated the airflow and ended up wafting smoke through the house. My parents found out and boy are they pissed. I'm mad at myself for getting caught, but not for smoking in general. It was stupid to smoke in their house and I should have respected their rules. I know that pot is safer than both alcohol and tobacco, and I will not let my parents dictate my life. They are threatening to cut me off, and I am considering it. I am an adult, and I should be able to make my own decisions. Why did I smoke? It was late and I was bored. Man, I'm a big disappointment to my parents. They seriously have no belief that I will make anything of my life. Let them. Their doubt fuels my drive. I will do great things in my life, but I will live my life on my terms, not theirs.

Rant over.

[LynneSin]

1. I'm going to give you my best "Dear Abby" here

First - it's their house and their rules.

Second - although I don't doubt your comment about pot being safer than tobacco or alcohol seriously, couldn't you manage to go a few days without just to keep the peace? I know pot is not addictive but you might want to take into consideration why you couldn't manage a few days without for the sake of peace within the family.

[Deja Q]

2. If it is not addictive, then he could have managed to have gone without since going there.

[LostinVA]

98. Marijuana is not addictive -- that is a FACT

[Alexander]

137. Not physically, but psychologically it can be.

That is a fact.

[ellisonz]

146. Just like peanut butter...

[bobd0]

156. It's not addictive in the clinical sense.

Unlike some commonly prescribed pharmaceuticals, you can stop smoking pot anytime without suffering withdrawal symptoms.

[JohnnyLib2]

149. the lounge has voted!

Apologize.

Plan better.



:hi:

[Deja Q]

3. You really would excommunicate yourself from your family?

Even if they are the ones initiating the terms?

We all have disappointed our parents. We're only human. And if it wasn't for most of society, I'd still believe what mine have to say. Actually, I still do despite it all. Populist beliefs don't equate to being correct either.

[snooper2]

4. Oh, that's not too bad...

I thought the coppers nabbed ya :rofl:

[malta blue]

5. that stinks, but I am gonna be a mom now....

1. Go outside!!!! If you know they won't approve, please respect their home and don't do it.

2. Don't cut off your family over something like this. It is not worth it.

[derby378]

6. My advice: offer a sincere apology for violating their house rules

Just don't smoke pot around there, okay? Smoke it at home or outdoors, in private.

It's the holidays. Reach out to them a little - they just might reach back.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

143. Good advice...

Respect is definitely a two-way street.

If you typically smoke pot because you are bored, you might want to consider taking up a hobby. Learn to play a musical instrument. Take up gardening, indoor or outdoor. Try knitting...it's not just for women. Or read. As long as you're going to kill time, you might as well enrich yourself at the same time.

Remember that your parents love you...otherwise they wouldn't give a damn what you do. It's love that's propelling their concern for you, and it's their lack of understanding beyond their own experience (at least partially) that's fueling their lack of faith in your ability. Be big about it by focusing on their love for you. If, as you say, their doubt fuels your drive, they'll come to see how you were right and they were wrong before long, won't they?

And one last thing...Living your life on your terms doesn't mean your parents' advice is not worth listening to. Taking their suggestions into consideration will go a long way toward acquiring their respect.

[Renew Deal]

7. Your ass should be hauled off to prison immediately.

:smoke:

[MrCoffee]

8. What are you, 14?

I will not let my parents dictate my life. They are threatening to cut me off, and I am considering it. I am an adult, and I should be able to make my own decisions. Why did I smoke? It was late and I was bored. Man, I'm a big disappointment to my parents. They seriously have no belief that I will make anything of my life. Let them. Their doubt fuels my drive. I will do great things in my life, but I will live my life on my terms, not theirs.

You would have made a hell of an 80's teen movie screenwriter.

[flvegan]

11. Nice post, Lloyd Dobler.

I don't want to sell anything, buy anything, or process anything as a career. I don't want to sell anything bought or processed, or buy anything sold or processed, or process anything sold, bought, or processed, or repair anything sold, bought, or processed. You know, as a career, I don't want to do that.

[MrCoffee]

12. Eat. My. Shorts.

Screws fall out sir, it's an imperfect world.

[crimsonblue]

13. haha. thanks for the laugh

I'm 23 and my views on pot obviously conflict with the view of my parents. Was it stupid to smoke in their house? Yes. But I do not believe toking in general to be a bad thing. Its illegality is stupid.

[LynneSin]

23. I don't think anyone here is questioning if toking is bad or not

but it's their house and their rules. My mother has some strang rules too - like making the bed. I never make my bed at home unless I know I have company coming over. But my mother, if the bed isn't made immediately after stepping foot out of bed in the morning then she'll hound me for the rest of the day.

I consider it a bit of anal retentativeness but for the sake of my sanity I make the damn bed.

[asthmaticeog]

33. Laugh all you want, Mr. Coffee's right. nt

[Dr. Strange]

39. That needs to go in my sigline!

[asthmaticeog]

44. Heh, yeah, that is kind of unintentionally funny, huh?

Can't believe I didn't notice it. :D

[lukasahero]

42. "Its illegality is stupid."

Whether you think it is stupid or not, it is illegal and it is their house/reputation/record/whatever you put at risk while you risk nothing because you have nothing to lose. "Was it stupid to smoke in their house?" Not just stupid, ignorant.

[Missy Vixen]

55. Thank you

>it is illegal and it is their house/reputation/record/whatever you put at risk while you risk nothing because you have nothing to lose.

We had a guest in our home who decided he just couldn't last two hours without his precious "herb", and went out to our driveway to indulge himself. We politely inform those who visit our home that we do not want illicit substances on our property for a variety of reasons, two of which are the fact I used to hold political office, and my husband is a long-time volunteer of a local police department. One of our neighbors called, and wanted to know who was smoking pot in our driveway. Thank God she called us before she called the cops.

I have NO patience for people like this. If they can't control themselves for an hour, a day, a week, perhaps it's time to go to rehab.

Julie

[Tangerine LaBamba]

63. You're 23, and they're

"threatening to cut you off"?

If you're not supporting yourself and living off their funds, you're not an adult, and what you did - because you were bored - BORED? - was self-indulgent, disrespectful, and really dumb.

And this from an old hippie chick who was high long before you even existed.

But it's their house, and, obviously, their checkbook. Do yourself a favor and become independent and then you won't be a sad 23-year-old ranting about how awful his parents are.

Now, that said, I'm hoping your post was a goof. If so, it was a good one.

Merry Christmas..........................

[InternalDialogue]

31. Signed,

The Breakfast Club.

[slay]

112. One of my all time favorites

Just remember to crotch that doobage when da parentals are around. lol. :smoke:

[Critters2]

57. Or, as my dad used to call me at 14:

Rebel Without a Car

[woo me with science]

83. LOL. nt

[noamnety]

9. suck it up and give them a sincere apology.

Smoke smell permeates curtains, bedding, carpets, and if they could smell it, that means it was also permeating their respiratory system.

What you do that doesn't affect them is your business, but those things did affect them. You should probably offer to launder everything that was affected, just as a matter of being responsible for cleaning up after yourself.

It's their decision to cut you off or not, and your apology should be unrelated to that.

(possibly cranky on this issue because smoke affects me so violently, so take that under advisement when reading. :) )

[Threedifferentones]

41. Weed smoke does not stick like tobacco

Not even close. Smoke one cig in a house without ventilation, it will reek for days. But back in the day I smoked weed in my folks' house mere hours before a group of unapproving famly arrived, and they never noticed. Your folks are being unreasonable, but of course the burden falls on you to do something about it, ie moving out!

In the mean time, find some way to hide the smell. When I smoked in dorms and the houses of nervous parents, I typically made an effort to get as much smoke out the window as possile.

[slay]

113. A fan aimed out the window with a bit of spilled aftershave on the floor works wonders..

Also toweling the door and closing the vents... I'm just sayin.. :smoke:

[NashVegas]

134. Seconded

[Inchworm]

10. Tough one

I would try to talk my way out of this one if I were you.

Say what you have said here to your parents. Make sure they know your feelings about smoking at their home. State the fact that you are grown and that you love and respect them no matter what.

As a kicker make them aware that if you are to visit for any length of time you may indulge as secretly as possible. If they take complete offence then don't visit so much.

Don't take no shit.

:hug:

PS: umm.. I've not communicated with my mother in years, so figure that in as well :P

[originalpckelly]

14. I don't blame them, weed smells like a dead skunk.

Just say no to smoking, make some brownies. They have ways to get it in that aren't as harmful as smoking.

[scheming daemons]

35. Yeah... but smoking a dead skunk doesn't give you a righteous buzz......

I know... I've tried.

[NYC_SKP]

101. Did you wait until the skunk reached maturity, and was it a female skunk?

Males and immature females won't get you high.

You did it wrong.

[Nikia]

15. Better your parents than the police

And then having to call your parents and ask for money for a lawyer so you won't have to spend time in prison.
I used to think that smoking pot was fine, but then my husband developed a serious addiction and had to make friends in our new community by smoking with others in our house and ended up getting our house raided and arrested.
I still think that it can be alright in moderation for most adults. If you aren't addicted, you can stop for a while anyway and should anytime you go to your parents or travel. If they worry about you succeeding, prove them wrong. In order to succeed, it helps to not get arrested and be able to pass drug tests so take measures for that. Pot doesn't necessarily lead to people losing motivation but it can sometimes because it can help you be satisfied with a boring life. Don't cut your parents out. They just worry about you.

[insanity]

16. It happens,

If they don't like it, respect their house. I smoked pot all through middle school, high school, and college by going outside at night. By my sophmore year of college, I realized they no longer cared, which was nice. Still, because it smells bad, I like to go outside.

[AlCzervik]

17. next time go outside. I smoke cigarettes but not in my house or car, you can smoke

here but you have to go outside, house rules.

[noamnety]

19. They may not want it outside on their property either

given that it's illegal - it puts them at risk.

I had an ex who thought it was a brilliant idea to leave a party once with his friends and get high in my car - knowing that I had a security clearance and that I drove that car onto post daily. An inspection that led to a drug bust would have been devastating to me financially - a career killer while I was being a single mom. (He's probably still pissed at me that I went out there and made a scene, embarrassing him in front of his friends and kicking them all out of my vehicle.)

If it was legal, smoking outside on their property is a fine solution. But it's not - which isn't saying anything about whether it SHOULD be legal, just that it's not right to put others at risk of legal problems over your own habit.

[TK421]

87. Agreed....I'm a smoker, and one other roommate here

it is all-too-easy to just smoke in my bedroom and blow the smoke outside the window....the only reason I don't do it? I'm afraid of starting a fire.

All I have to do is walk downstairs, through the kitchen and go out to the enormous deck we have out there and smoke...it's no hardship at all!

[AlCzervik]

91. yup, i'm the only smoker at my house and i doubt they'd want me stinking up the place

plus even as a smoker i can't stand that smell. Same thing with my car which is really small, it would stink to high heaven if i smoked in it.

[TK421]

92. When I drove ( it has been at least three years since I owned a car )

I always smoked while driving, but when I had a passenger there I refrained from it, unless they lit up themselves...then it wasn't so bad.

It's all about being courteous...and I remember living at my grandmoms house when my asthmatic cousins were over there the smokers would either go down into the basement or outside. I just don't fuck with asthma....

[Danger Mouse]

18. Don't be stubborn and proud.

Cutting yourself off from your family over such a thing would be a mistake that you would regret.

[deaniac21]

20. Sounds like you want all of the benefits of adulthood without

any of the responsibility. If you can't follow their rules you should quit accepting their largess.

[Roon]

21. At my parents' house, we go smoke in the barn

They know what we are doing, but as long as we aren't toking in the house, they don't care.

[Kali]

26. around here you would get in a hell of a lot more trouble smoking anywhere near the barn!

Go in the hills and make damn sure you don't leave anything smoldering on the ground!

[buzzycrumbhunger]

22. Next time, pack brownies

Sure, it's decadent, but it's a holiday. Why not make sure someone gives you something you really want? (<< Lesson learned after too many years with a guy who hardly gave me anything, let alone what I like.)

Seriously, though, that was dumb. It doesn't matter how clever the ventilation is--people who don't smoke (esp. people who are offended by it) are going to notice. The Freudians among us would probably say you wanted to get caught.

[skygazer]

24. "Their doubt fuels my drive"

:rofl:

Dude, are you still stoned or what?

[pitohui]

25. if you would rather be cut off from family than cut off from drugs you have a problem

i'm not interested in the "it's only weed, i'm not hurting anybody" tall tale these days, the fucking drug dealers are killing our communities around here, and, in any case, far from not being hurt, you're an addict who can't give it up even long enough to enjoy a family holiday together

think of the obnoxious drunk uncle who can't quit the booze long enough to have one pleasant peaceful christmas dinner with the family, the guy who fucks it all up and makes it awkward for everybody because he can't stop hitting the sauce

in what way are you different from that guy? weed is not better than wine when it's causing you to behave in exactly the same assholish way as the drunk

if you want to impress your parents with your success, try actually being successful, rather than being the guy who can't think of anything better to do when he's bored than get high

what successful person has time to get bored? if you want to do great things in your life, you have a lot of big changes you've got to make, based on what you've posted here

sorry but that's my opinion and i'm sticking to it, most of the old hippies you meet who still smoke pot...you notice how successful they are and what great things they've done? yeah. exactly.

denial, not just a river in egypt, as they say -- if you had control of your drug use, it would never have come to the attention of your parents

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[pitohui]

68. it's assholish behavior to force other people to breathe your crap

smoking even tobacco in somebody else's home is a shitty thing to do, smoking something illegal which could expose his own parents to losing their home in civil forfeiture is just beyond shitty and, yes, such thoughtlessness defines the asshole to me

assholes put self above all others -- his post rants about how he will be great, he will show them blah de blah de blah -- yet he can't even "show" them that he can put down the weed for a night

smoking in someone else's home is just as assholish as being drunk and obnoxious in someone else's home

if you're uncomfortable by this opinion, ask yourself why -- have YOU been the asshole in the back room?

if you don't understand that some people do have a psychological addiction to weed, then you need to get out more, because it's very very real -- people are not giving up their families for a drug because they're mentally strong and healthy but rather because they have a problem

[RadiationTherapy]

73. The act of disrespectful smoking is assholish.

The idea that a drunk and a stoner have, IN ANY WAY, similar behavior when high on their respective drug is ignorant and bullshit.

As far as psychological addictions and escape, there are far too many "legal" trips (food, church, power, alcohol, pills, guilt, abuse...) that people are addicted to and will not "put down" for one night that I will not criticize marijuana users any harsher than I do "prayerers" or "moralizerists". The OP is not "giving up their family" for a drug. It is pretty obvious that he/she is coming into that time in life where you HAVE TO (for however long) "give up the family" in order to make their way in the world and learn a bit more who they are. I lived thousands of miles away from my family for a decade. I rejected their lifestyle, ideals, and politics and traveled and lived a novel-worthy life in my 20's. Now in my 30's, I have a family and my parents have moved to my town. During my unsupervised and self-funded adventures, I developed into an interesting and reasonable adult with a Self I am proud to show my parents and family.

So, to recap, smoking in someone's house is assholish, alcohol and pot buzzes are nothing alike, and leaving one's family is a normal, healthy, and temporary step toward a fulfilling and independent life.

[Threedifferentones]

43. Most people who do "great things" create more ill than good.

Except for your lungs, smoking weed harms nothing.

Drug dealers are the fault of our stupid drug laws, not the users.

I will agree, however, that if you have great ambition for "worldly" success, daily pot use will prove a hinderance.

However, if your ambition is to feel good with friends and family, then have at it; it isn't the sort of drug that can become as or more important to you as food and life itself, which is why comparing to alcohol is STUPID. Stoners sit around and talk about silly abstract things, drunks get uncontrollably emotional, fail basic judgement calls, and kill people b y driving out of control.

And BTW, Pitohui, you sound like an asshole, just so you know :). I know plenty of old stoners who have supported families who love them. They tend to be peaceful, easy going, of modest means and environmentally conscious. That may not qualify as "greatness" but it seems like a fine and sustainable way to spend a life time.

So, if you don't approve of weed, please just STFU.

[Missy Vixen]

58. Oh, I see

Your opinion is the only one that matters.

>So, if you don't approve of weed, please just STFU.

No thanks. Again, the rest of us have just as much right to our opinion as you do.

Julie

[ellisonz]

60. Thank You.

I would also object to the blanket category "drug dealers." There is a very clear line between marijuana and your hardcore stimulants and narcotics.

[pitohui]

69. such a clear line that they're sold by the same people EOM

.

[ellisonz]

71. Really?

You believe most of the people who sell pot sell "hard drugs" too? Wow.

[pitohui]

67. exactly none of the old stoners you know achieved "greatness" READ THE OP

this person aspires to greatness but is not willing enough to achieve greatness to do something as simple as putting away the weed

i know functional alcoholics too who are loved by their families and do okay but can they, will they, achieve "greatness" of course not, maintaining the high takes too much of the day

[bobd0]

157. I could name you any number of musicians and artists who achieved greatness

and were all definitely "old stoners". Alcoholics too. Composers. Writers. Scientists. Philosophers.

Over the years I've noticed that, usually, those so dead set against pot are those who are most in need of lighting up and lightening up.
:smoke:

If nothing else, legalize it for medical use as thirteen states have already done. Your doctor can prescribe known narcotics yet pot is too dangerous? Ridiculous.

[Ptah]

166. Just think what Louis Armstrong could have done.

[Kithim]

110. Are you stupid?

Drug dealers are the fault of our stupid drug laws, not the users.
Drug dealers dont make laws first of all. And if it is illegal to do DONT DO IT. If a person smokes pot, it is there fault for smoking it, they should never have bought the crap in the first place. Why would it be the drug dealers fault?

And BTW, Pitohui, you sound like an asshole, just so you know . I know plenty of old stoners who have supported families who love them. They tend to be peaceful, easy going, of modest means and environmentally conscious. That may not qualify as "greatness" but it seems like a fine and sustainable way to spend a life time.

Pitohui sounds like an asshole? Boy do you have it turned around. And if you think that the average stoner has a better life than the average anyone else, you are ignorant.

[Threedifferentones]

123. Enjoy your time here at DU kith

[JNelson6563]

96. I think you'd be very sruprised

There are a lot of adults who smoke pot but with moderation. I've known some mighty successful people who indulge but the key is, again, moderation. They would never have made the sort of mistake the OP did of course and very few people have any idea they even smoke the stuff.

Julie

[Kithim]

107. ...

...

[northernlights]

27. I am cut off from my family

but mine were physically and mentally abusive and fucking nuts.

I think that your excuse for cutting yourself off from them is unbelievably flimsy. Not only that it is their house and their rules, but because this particular rule-breaking happens to put your parents and their financial and emotional security at high risk.

Pot laws are stupid. But until they are rescinded and sanity prevails, they are one of the few laws that seem to be enforced these days.

And I don't know how the drug "wars" are fought today, but not all that many years ago if people were caught with pot in their house, even if it wasn't their pot and even if they didn't know their kid had snuck it in, THEY COULD LOSE THEIR HOUSE!

So give it up for a few days. Keep your stash somewhere else and go smoke or have some brownies somewhere that you aren't putting anybody at risk.

Oh, and good luck living your life on "your terms." News for ya. Short of winning the lottery, you'll likely be living your life on other people's terms just like the rest of us.

[KamaAina]

28. See, if they'd just legalize it already, you could just go outside

like any other smoker. Sheesh. :eyes:

[shanti]

104. you can

....here in cali ;)

[cemaphonic]

29. Hey, just be glad your mom isn't my SIL

She would have confiscated it, and then smoked it later with her friends when you weren't around. (Although, probably not to a 23-year old - but that did happen to her 16-year-old stepdaughter.)

Seriously though, the others are right. You should respect your parents rules in their house (really, anybody's rules in their own house) Lots of people are bothered by smoke, and the illegality of it puts your parents at risk.

[conscious evolution]

38. A friend busted his 18 y.o.with bud

At first he was pissed that his kid was smoking pot.Then he was pissed cause his son had better pot than he did!
Should I tell him his son gets good acid also?

[jus_the_facts]

30. Fuck.....

.....man....you got me all parnoid now. :smoke:

[wartrace]

32. It's pretty darn rude of you to do that.

Geez Louise you didn't even invite them to burn one with you? You should have had the common courtesy to invite them to partake. Frankly I can't blame them for being pissed off you Bogart!

[sarcasmo]

34. Oh no, Moral Ruin.

Just watched a documentary called grass and they had one of the ole black and white propaganda pieces. Smoking marijuana will lead to Moral Ruin, that was the best part of the Documentary

[HEyHEY]

36. You're gonna burn in hell, doper!

[CheCheCheCheYerBooty]

37. I had to laugh

I got caught smoking pot by my mother when I was 19. This was 18 years ago and she and my dad were one of those repubby Ward and June types although both functioning alcoholics. They could never make me stop and finally gave up. I still light up in my room when I want. They'll get over it. No big deal.

[graywarrior]

45. I will not comment I will not comment I will not comment

[leftofthedial]

46. could be worse.

they could have caught you being a republican.

[JVS]

47. Next time make brownies. They'll just think you're in the xmas spirit.

[Taverner]

49. Yep

And yes, it works very well for about 4-6 hours

Mirth!

[Taverner]

48. Dude - as a fellow pot smoker I gotta say...whaaa?

Outside! I don't care if its snowing, get a wind proof lighter and go outside!

Or find an old friend from HS and spark up with him at his house!

Just not in the home - Respect! Respect!

[Fire Walk With Me]

50. If it's not a problem, why are you willing to break their rules

and even your relationship, over it?

[Boudica the Lyoness]

51. My son is home from college

for the holidays and every time he comes home skunks invade the neighborhood. I know because I can smell them. Glad my boy is not a devil weed smoker.

[scubadude]

52. You might do great things in your life....

but will you remember them?

On a more serious note acts of illegality are often rewarded with incarceration. Commercial over.

Scuba

[LeftyMom]

53. As a general rule, it's plain rude to break the law in somebody's house without permission.

Likewise do anything that smells like unwashed ass.

Combining the two is rude as shit. If you were my family member and did that, I'd have kicked your ass.

[bigwillq]

54. You should've went outside.

Went for a walk and smoked.

[Rabrrrrrr]

59. I worry about people who do drugs because they're bored.

Something deeper is going on than just a casual toke.

Especially since you talk about having drive. I don't know any driven people who are "bored".

[ellisonz]

61. "I don't know any driven people who are 'bored.'"

That is such bullshit. Everyone gets bored, even so called "driven" people. I also reject the dichotomy between driven and bored. Shades of gray.

[insanity]

62. Yep

I think I have drive, I made it through 4 years of college, worked for a foreign government, campaigned my heart out. To quote Han Solo, "Even I get bored sometimes"

Also, I smoke pot.

[Rabrrrrrr]

74. Driven people who are bored go find something productive to do to relieve the boredom

I never get "bored". The world is too interesting, and there is too much to explore and do, to be bored.

Being "bored" is a self-induced state of mind, not something that just "shows up" from the aether. Bored people choose to be bored.

[ellisonz]

78. Except when your forced by the state to sit in a classroom...

...in a decrepit, gated in campus in 90+ degree heat. Then it happens easily, almost unconsciouslly...bloody aether.

I'm betting you make well over minimum wage...bloody wage slavery.

[Rabrrrrrr]

79. Of course. It's someone else's fault.

It always is, isn't it?

[ellisonz]

81. I'm not blaming anybody. I'm simply acknowledging the reality.

Or do you reject social anomie as a concept out of hand?

[Rabrrrrrr]

95. Of course it's blaming - you blamed the walls, the heat, the space,

the people that force one into that position...

an evolved mind finds a place of non-boredom, no matter what the circumstances are, because to an evolved mind, there really is no boredom - certainly the evolved mind never lets outside forces dictate what goes on inside the brain. To allow outside forces to rule is just a cop out.

[ellisonz]

122. Internality/Externality

You decide. But I've generally found that the cult of the individual will tends toward injustice...

[Rabrrrrrr]

124. Wow - you've really shifted the discussion.

We were talking about people choosing to be "bored" simply because they decide that they should be; now you're talking social psychobabble about individuality and injustice.

Jesus.

[ellisonz]

145. Ha...

I'm talking about the metaphysics of ethics. I can't help it if that goes over your head. I'm talking about the relationship between your own conception of self and how you experience the world.

Buddha.

[Rabrrrrrr]

158. It's funny watching amateurs try to talk "deep"

:rofl:

[ellisonz]

168. Dude. Belittlement is not a sign of a particularly "deep" mind.

:think:

[RadiationTherapy]

75. I worry about people who do not see the same worrisome symptoms in TV addicts.

church addicts

food addicts

sex addicts

moralizing addicts

power addicts

abuse addicts

sports addicts

education addicts

Why focus on drugs only?


BTW, my drive often results in my being bored on account of all of the slow idiots I endure in my daily grinds.

[Rabrrrrrr]

76. Absolutely - anything done in an unhealthy way, esp. under the rubric "I'm bored"

is a sign of an underlying problem.

Well said!

[RadiationTherapy]

77. High-five! *whooooh-psssh!*

[Danger Mouse]

64. Your OP is fail.

[LisaL]

65. You are in their house doing an illegal activity.

Whether you think it should be legal is irrelevant, because as of now it is not.
So yea they have a right to be upset.

[hedgehog]

66. Just to be nosy, i have to ask - are you self supporting or do you

still get money from your parents? In other words, did you use their money to buy pot?

[TK421]

70. Wrong place, DEFINITELY wrong time! You will NOT get a lid in your stocking this year!

HO HO HO!!!!! MERRRRRRRYYY CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!

[Z_I_Peevey]

159. Lid! You said lid!

:hi:

[Name removed]

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[IdaBriggs]

80. Let me get this straight --

You are a college student at age 23 (not uncommon). Your parents are paying for a good chunk of your support, if not all. You normally live at college, where you are not subject to their rules, but are home visiting for the holidays.

And you bring illegal drugs into their home, obviously planning on indulging, even though you are fully aware this would upset them.

You sir, are a selfish, immature, spoiled brat. You should be 'cut off' financially, and your threats of cutting them off EMOTIONALLY are simply blackmail attempts.

My opinion of you is low, especially as I am confident you have pretty much ruined the holidays for your family. They must now live with the fact they have obviously done a poor job of raising a decent human being, because instead, they've got you -- someone who cares more about being 'bored' (planned in advance, obviously) than he does RESPECTING them or their rules.

But that is the gist of it, isn't it? You don't RESPECT them; you USE them for their funds. The more they give, the STUPIDER you think they are. And, if they STOP giving to you, or say anything you don't want to hear ("We are worried you are going to be a complete loser, since illegal drug use is a great way to get a criminal record/end up in jail!") you threaten to stop being a loving son.

Of course, you aren't a loving son, being a selfish, spoiled brat, but you just had to shatter their illusions, didn't you?

Merry FUCKING Christmas.

(End Spanking)

[golddigger]

85. Bravo!

:applause:

[TK421]

88. Christ....that is a most excellent response there...

:thumbsup:

[WildEyedLiberal]

93. This 24 year old says

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Genevieve]

94. excellent. ,nt

[LostinVA]

99. I believe pot should be legal -- and I wish I could k&r your post

[Neshanic]

102. Oh, that's gonna leave a mark. Most definately.

[tigereye]

105. while I agree with some elements of this post, it seems pretty over the top...

You never did anything in your parent's home that they wouldn't have wanted you to?


Yes, I know marijuana is illegal, and one needs to respect one's parent's rules- but aren't you assuming a bit too much about the OP?


:shrug:


apologies if this was intended as sarcasm...

[slay]

114. Way over the top

Some people are hardline assholes. I don't think it was meant as sarcasm at all. I wish.. I mean I hate to see that kind of intolerance for a young man trying to be free and be himself. I'm shocked so many people are judgeing him so harshly. If some of these peeps replying were my parents, I would stand up for my right to smoke weed and if they still wanted to be dicks about it, I would just move away. Assholes.

[skygazer]

120. Oh, please

Yeah, these poor young people love "trying to be free" as long as the parents are footing the bill. And you think "just moving away" is some kind of threat?

:rofl:

Have at it, kids! You want to "be free" and do your own thing? Do it in your own house that YOU pay for.

Tell you what, if I had a 23 year old kid spouting off about how he was going to just move away because I wouldn't let him smoke weed in my house, I'd even help him pack. :eyes:

[slay]

125. Ah yes, another know it all

Have fun rofl'ing while being a jerk. Glad you're not my parent and I pity your kids if you have any. Heartless.

[Danger Mouse]

130. What are you, 12?

[Alexander]

136. Certainly mentally, if not physically.

[ellisonz]

147. Dude, good tactic.

<snark>

[skygazer]

141. I'm glad I'm not your parent too

And yes, I do have kids. Who did their fair share of smoking and drinking and every other stupid thing when they were kids - as did I. And when they got caught, they sucked it up and took it instead of getting all dramatic and threatening to cut me off (which would have had me laughing as much as I am here). Which is what I did when I got caught.

You act like kids have some god-given right to do whatever the fuck they please in their parents' house and that their parents have no business getting pissed. You're in for a rude awakening if you ever grow up enough to procreate.

[Rabrrrrrr]

127. I agree - children need to grow up at some point, and I think 18 is a good age for it

An ungrateful 23 year old child giving me grief in my own home?

I'm with you - "Let's go get some moving boxes and get you the hell out of here. You can come back when you've turned into an adult in attitude, not just in age."

[Danger Mouse]

131. POT IS FUCKING ILLEGAL RIGHT NOW LIKE IT OR NOT.

Yes, I hate that it is, but it's downright stupid of him to be risking getting his parents in legal trouble to indulge himself.
Stupid and selfish. And judging from your idiotic posts, you're every bit as stupid and selfish as he is.

[Zavulon]

119. Applause, applause.

This is the best post I've ever seen in the Lounge.

I wrote a post against the OP earlier myself, and you should see the idiots defending the OP. It never ceases to amaze me how someone with no leg to stand on can try to argue a point anyway.

[Shell Beau]

148. I agree with your post BUT I also remember being

that selfish kid. I would have NEVER EVER brought pot to my parent's house though. EVER.

[woo me with science]

82. This is a joke post, right? nt

[Javaman]

84. Their house, their rules.

suck it up and grow up.

man, you got off lucky. if my dad ever found me with anything that even remotely resembled something illegal, he would have kicked my ass so fucking hard, I would still be hurting today.

I really hope you enjoyed how you made your parents feel.

23 years old. You are so fucking fortunate, do you have any idea? Honestly, do you? fuck, I had to pay my own college. take out my own loans and pay them myself. I had to support myself. I didn't have a gravy train.

This is how you thank your parents for giving you an opportunity that millions of other young people in this nation would die to have?

[TK421]

89. My parents couldn't afford college for me....I don't regret it now, but

shit! I don't think this person has any idea how fortunate they are to have parents that could!

[Mojambo]

86. The only times I would get in trouble is when I wouldn't invite my dad in to smoke.

My mom would knock on the door and chastise me in that mom voice.

"You know, you COULD share with your father..."

[mdmc]

90. time to quit bro

or at least tell them that you quit...wanted to quit...wake up call..
If that don't work then let em know you smoke and go it alone..

peace and low stress

[WritingIsMyReligion]

97. You act like a petulant 15-year-old.

Such a fucking rebel you are, eh, smoking pot? In your parents' house? Against their will? Yeah, you're goddamn Che Guevara.

:rofl:

[LostinVA]

100. My wife respects me enough not to smoke cigarettes in the house

And, she OWNS half the house and contributes equally monetarily to our family and household.

I never smoked pot in my parent's house when I was in college, because I know they didn't like it. Because it was THEIR house. You're an adult. Act like one and practice some control. And, NO drug,including alcohol, should be taken because of A"BOREDOM." READ A DAMNED BOOK.

[shanti]

103. the respectful thing to do in someone else's house

is to just go outside to smoke or "for a walk" if you know they won't tolerate it. lesson learned, huh? unfortunately, they'll now always think of you as a pothead because of that one incident. ask me how i know this...

[Zavulon]

106. If you were my kid, I'd cut you off too.

Because you were BORED you risked fucking up everyone's holiday? Were you bored when you left your own house and brought drugs into theirs? Was it non-stop, hours-on-end boredom?

You get caught bringing drugs into their house and somehow make them out to be the bad guys, and manage to compare pot to tobacco and alcohol as if safety were the issue here. Incredible. On principle I hope your parents do cut you off, and I seriously doubt anyone with your lack of judgment will do great things in life. Grow up, seriously.

Edited to add that I wish your parents were cops or had called them.

[skooooo]

108. Jesus, it's not meth.

:eyes:

[Zavulon]

115. Don't care what it is.

His parents didn't want it anywhere near their house. Pot, meth, C4, whatever. This was the act of a selfish and stupid person.

[skooooo]

117. Then you lack judgement. nt

[Zavulon]

118. And you lack intelligence.

There's no excuse for bringing an illegal substance to your parents' house for Christmas, for fuck's sake. None. And to suggest otherwise is much more of a lack of judgment than you're accusing me of.

[Threedifferentones]

128. A few grams of weed poses no legal danger to his family

FACT. And for suggesting otherwise it is YOU who is stupid, Zavulon. If by some insane circumstance a cop actually smelled the OP's weed, and called in the drug dog which would be necessary to actually locate a small stash, the OP would obviously just fess up, so that only he would take the MISDEMEANOR possession charge, and end up paying a hefty fine. Of course the chances of cops going on such a wild goose chase to fuck over a college kid and his family during the holidays seem about nil to me, unless you live in the middle of Detroit or something.

Creating an undesirable odor in the house is about as rude as sticking around your guests with a bad case of gas. Poorly done, to be sure, but not so bad as to justify many of the comments on this thread. If the OP had been caught growing pot or with many ounces of the stuff and a scale, the responses here would be justified.

Not only are many posters here vastly overreacting, they seem to imply they never did anything which their parents wholly disapproved of, and that they were making entirely mature and sound decisions at the age of 23. Maybe that's true in a few cases, but I doubt it.

The EXCUSE for bringing a bit of weed in to your folks' home is no "no harm, no foul." No one can possibly suffer other than the OP's lungs and, due to his own foolishness, the noses of the family for an hour or so. If you think that justifies OMG YOU FUCKER YOUR RUINING FUCKING CHRISTMAS I BET BABY JESUS IS FUCKING CRYING, I suggest saving the drama for when the shit actually hits the fan.

In reality all that needs be said is "dude, it's clearly time to move out, and in the mean time cover up the smell you silly boy." The rest of the posters on this thread seem to have some anger and stress issues they need to work on.

Maybe a couple tokes would help ya'll calm down! :)

Edited for poor grammar.

[Zavulon]

132. It IS a problem if the parents don't want it in their house,

and for attempting to whip up justifications to the contrary it is YOU who is stupid, Threedifferenttones. If I don't want pot in my house, no number of excuses will make you welcome in it if you're holding, period, including your "no harm no foul."

In the OP's case, since he's sponging off his parents, he owes them a lot more respect than he's showing them, and yet people like you who think I aam others are "overreacting" somehow can't grasp that anyone who wants pot so much that he'd do that on a holiday in mom $ dad's house has a real problem. Of course, many of the problems are evident in the rest of the OP itself and in the posts of those defending its author.

The parents are financially supporting this weasel and the best you can come up with is "no harm, no foul?" Yes, Threedifferenttones, it is definitely YOU who is stupid.

[skooooo]

133. Don't try to reason with him..

..everything is clearly black or white.

Zavulon, using your "logic," you'd scream for the death penalty if someone punched you in the nose.

[Zavulon]

135. And skooooo, using your "logic,"

I should be able to dump a pile of horseshit on your living room rug - after all, what you want in your own house doesn't count, right?

The OP sponges off his parents and couldn't show them the respect of not blazing up on a holiday, and he actually has people defending him. Incredible.

[Threedifferentones]

138. Zavulon

So far in this thread you have compared a few grams of weed to meth, high explosives, and a pile of shit on the living room floor. I'm not sure why I need to continue critiquing that line of thinking, but I will.

The best of amount of actual harm this has caused is agreed upon. A foul odor, and "disrespect." It seems you feel comfortable knowing this proves a harmful addiction in his life, which is obviously a point you are and anyone else on this thread are unequipped to make, since you know next to nothing about his life other than he smoked weed one time in his parents house on Christmas.

I'd say a sixty minute chewing out would suffice from his parents' perspective; many posts on this board have been quite excessive, such as yours.

Your anger set mine off, which was a small mistake.

To show your are actually as mature and respectful as you claim, you and several other spiteful posters on this thread ought to give the OP an apology and a belated merry Christmas.

[Zavulon]

140. Not a chance.

I only apologize when I'm actually sorry for what I've done, and in this case I'm not. If I'm sorry about anything, it's that I didn't put you on ignore after your first idiotic post to me. I'll rectify that mistake now after your second idiotic post.

I'm respectful to the homeowners. The OP deserves no respect whatsoever and gets none from me.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

142. If it were orange juice and his parents didn't want it in their house, he should have listened.

He's 23 fucking years old and doesn't have to be allowed to do anything within another adult's home. Respect the wishes of other adults with their houses, and if you want to do something they do not want in their houses, get your own goddamn house.

[slay]

111. WOW. Way to show some x-mas compassion there buddy

And to the OP - I'm right there with ya. I used to have the same problem. It sucks we have to hide it while cigs and alcohol remain legal. Don't worry about what jerks like Zavulon say. LEGALIZE IT.. YEAAAHHHH. :smoke:

[Zavulon]

116. As far as I'm concerned,

a.) I would have no problem with pot being legal, but

b.) the jerk who wrote the OP brought it to his parents' house and actually has jerks like you supporting him,

c.) and the rest of the OP is the work of someone who needs serious therapy.

If your parents didn't want pot anywhere near their house, are you telling me you'd bring it there on Christmas?

By the way, not writing in detail what I really felt about the OP is all the X-mas compassion I'm capable of extending to that degree of imbecile.

[Danger Mouse]

129. Wow.

[slay]

109. dupe/misplaced

n/t

[ismnotwasm]

121. I remember catching my kids

With a lot of pot, bongs (nice ones) and a big ass bottle of Vodka, and I don't want to know what else.Involved 3 out of the 4 kids, 2 still living at home, 2 over 18 at the time. A couple of friends. God was I pissed. I told them to get that shit out of my house and I'd personally call the cops if they tried to drive impaired. WALK motherfuckers.

Little assholes. After four teenagers, I'm still traumatized, and have paid in full for the sins of my youth (none of my kids ever came close to being as bad as I was)


Like all/most parents, I got over it. What I was pissed about (that time) mostly was not the drug use-- but using my home for an illegal activity and including a couple of underage kids. Doesn't match your situation of course, but it's just one example.

Yes, pot should be legal--of course-- but it wasn't and isn't.

If a little smoking was the worst my kids ever did,(thier ages are now between 22 and 30) I'd be grateful. They turned out just fine BTW.

[nomorenomore08]

126. Listen, I'm a 24-year-old unemployed college graduate living with the folks, and I smoke weed.

And I *still* think you're being a complete dumbass. Seriously, what is so hard about obeying the rules? The fairly rare times I actually have weed at home, I *go outside* and toke - is that so hard either?

And saying you'll do great things in life? I hope you do, but being a little prick and complaining about your own mistakes will likely impede you in that.

And I hope your parents don't cut you off financially, or you them emotionally - either one seems like cruel and unusual punishment in my book, but the second is inarguably worse. It's called *emotional blackmail*, dude, and it's the last refuge of scoundrels. Don't be that way, *please*! I know you're better than that, because most of us ultimately are, even if we don't show it...

[flvegan]

139. Still going.

[Fire Walk With Me]

164. I'm bullish on pot. It's going places.

Pot! I was caught fucking!

[blue neen]

144. You know what? I like pot...I really do. I wish it were legalized.

BUT, it's not. That is a fact. You not only broke the rules of the country, you were disrespectful enough to break the rules of your parents' home.

Here are some other facts for you to think about: 1) If you get convicted of possessing marijuana, you will be ineligible to receive Federal grants and loans for your college education. You are jeopardizing the education that you and your parents have worked so hard for. 2) If you get caught possessing marijuana, you will not receive clearances for many jobs, including teaching and anything having to do with child care, law enforcement, and elder care, and many government jobs. You are jeopardizing the FUTURE that you and your parents have worked so hard for. 3) Many corporations AND small companies do routine drug testing now, including marijuana. If you flunk the test, you do not get a job. That is your goal in life, right? To get a job?

In case you are wondering, my own son is 25, and he respects the laws of the household and of his job. He might not like it, but that's what you have to do when you become an adult--you think about other people in your life and how your actions affect them.

You are not an adult until you realize that.

I will finish where I started...I like pot...I really do. I wish it were legalized. BUT, IT'S NOT!

[Threedifferentones]

165. Your logic only holds true for large quantities of the stuff, blue neen

Possession of small amounts of weed is a misdemeanor, not a felony. Job applications only, in my experience, ask about felony convictions.

When I was in college people routinely got caught smoking. They got citations, but the cases never made it out of my university's (UT Knoxville) student judicial affairs. I am also fairly sure it is only felonious convictions which make one ineligible for federal aid.

If a job you want requires a DT, refrain for a month, get the job, continue as desired.

You have vastly overstated the legal risks of marijuana USE, your post is much more applicable to someone who is selling the stuff.

[blue neen]

167. Au contraire. I have vastly overstated nothing.

1)Many businesses in this area do random, on the spot drug testing. You can't plan for that. The corporation where my son works makes medical equipment, such as MRI machines. There is a zero tolerance policy there.

2)Concerning Federal Stafford Loans: "The student must not have had his or her eligibility for Title IV aid denied when sentenced by a court due to conviction of possession or distribution of a controlled substance, under the authority of the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1988. A student whose financial aid eligibility is denied as part of the penalty for a drug conviction will be placed on the Department’s Drug Abuse Hold File at the direction of the Department of Justice. The student will receive a Student Aid Report (SAR)with no calculated EFC and a comment instructing him or her to contact the U.S. Department of Education if the student wishes to contest the finding."

Hmm. I think that paragraph says POSSESSION.

3)I have personally applied for jobs that required clearances from the state where I reside. In order to obtain that clearance you must have a clean record, including no convictions for possession of controlled or illegal substances.

Look, I hate these laws as much as the next person, but none of us can bury our heads in the sand about what happens to you when you get caught...and ANYBODY can get caught. I sure as heck am not a fuddy-duddy, but in this day and age every job is precious.

Now, put that in your pipe and smoke it...so to speak! :)

[MrSlayer]

150. Simply apologize and go outside next time.

Christ, the way some people are lecturing here it's seems like the "stick up the ass" society. You fucked up, just apologize, make up some bullshit about it not being something you do all the time and don't get caught again. Most parents will let you get off easy if the apology is sincere enough.

[blue neen]

151. "MAKE UP some bullshit about it not being something you do all the time...:

meanwhile--"most parents will let you get off easy if the apology is SINCERE enough."

Sure. Gotcha.

[MrSlayer]

152. Yes, it's called acting.

Put their minds at ease and continue to do as you like. I'm sure this is not a new concept. You just have to make it sound sincere enough to pass muster. You don't actually have to be sincere.

[jberryhill]

153. You didn't offer them any?

Man, I'd be pissed if I was one of your parents, too.

[blogslut]

154. If your parents are threatening to cut you off

I seriously doubt it's all about the pot. Maybe they think it's time for you to stand on your own. Maybe you should.

[bobd0]

155. Cut you off for smoking a little weed?

I'm certainly not making light of your plight but can't you tell them it's just a little weed and see what they say? Avoid "all my friends do it" at any cost. :)

Maybe try to get your folks to check out a few tokes. :D

Just kidding.

Seriously, they should be ecstatic if the worst you do is smoke a little pot. Do they drink or smoke?

[lizziegrace]

160. I don't get it

his parents don't want him smoking pot in their home. Why are they in the wrong because he disagrees?

And whether or not they drink or smoke is irrelevant. It's THEIR home. When he has his own home, he can make the rules.

[bobd0]

161. I'm not saying they are wrong. I'm saying cutting the kid off for smoking a little weed is

rather drastic.

[lizziegrace]

162. I think the OP is being overly-dramatic

he's not getting his way.

[DevonRex]

163. Someday both you and your parents will laugh about this. But not now.

Right now, you broke their rules in their house. You did something illegal in their house. So, yes you disappointed them. They found out that you have no respect for them. They should be disappointed. And you should apologize.

Live your life on your own terms in YOUR house or dorm room or wherever. But not in THEIR house. When pot is legal, it might be okay to smoke it outside at their house. But even then, if they say no pot on their property you will have to respect that. Because they have the right to control what goes on in and around their house. Just like if you bring a girlfriend home, your parents have the right to say you must sleep in separate bedrooms. Sleeping together isn't a crime, but you have to abide by their rules.

So go apologize profusely and maybe the rest of the holidays can be saved.