Are MTV's Days of Being The Vanguard of Youth Culture Over?

[Yavin4]

Most would say that MTV's golden days ended when they went with programming, like The Real World, over music videos. However, even after they switched their programming culture, MTV remained the place to be when it came to defining youth pop culture.

Today, two new entities have stolen MTV's crown: the internet and Disney.

Facebook, MySpace, and Youtube are far more effective at connecting with today's youth. Heck, even one of MTV's biggest show, "A Shot of Love with Tila Tequila", is based on Tila being a MySpace sensation.

As for launching pop phenoms, look to Disney, not MTV. Miley Cyrus and the Jonas Brothers were born on Disney, not MTV, and they're the biggest pop stars going.

[TK421]

1. I miss MTV for their music videos, which they seemingly have no more

interest in showing...instead they are ( have been for many years ) feeding us this plastic shit with Reality shows and talk shows but no more videos! I NEVER see a music video on MTV no matter when I tune in! THEY FUCKING SUCK!!!!

They started to REALLY suck in the mid-90's

[LeftyMom]

2. Let us hope so. MTV has sucked since I was a kid. nt

[Initech]

3. MTV has sucked for a long time now.

Of course Disney sucks, too, but I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better off for NOT knowing who the fuck Tila Tequila is.

[pitohui]

4. mtv? they still alive?

i guess i didn't even know they were still on the air, tee hee

[MilesColtrane]

5. Empty V was never the Vanguard of Youth Culture.

[RevolutionaryActs]

6. Hey, there's still MTV2!

:P

[Danger Mouse]

7. Yes.

[LynneSin]

8. VH1 is a joke - their whole programming is based on 2 concepts

Six Degrees of Separation from Flavor Flav or Countdown lists (top 100 kid stars, top 100 one-hit wonders, etc. etc.)

Where's the fucking music???!!

[Danger Mouse]

9. It's all a joke. Pop culture has rotted from the inside and all that's left is its corpse.

[HughBeaumont]

10. Vh1 = Reality shows, D-list comedians talking about reality shows and countdowns.

[JCMach1]

15. VH-1 Europe... it's almost all music new and old

[LynneSin]

16. VH1 classic USE to be all music, even no commericial

now it's the burial ground for the bad reality TV shows from years past

:grr:

[JCMach1]

20. Yuck! Both MTV and VH1 Europe actually play music... more so on VH1

[HughBeaumont]

11. I wasn't aware they ever were, post-1986.

Seriously, what's the point of MTV OR MTV2? Neither one show anything that's worth a flying shit: just a bunch of upper class suburbanite dickboys and princesses bitching at each other. What exactly do I need either channel for? I have YouTube. Any 80s video I want to see. Any 70s. Any 90s. Any metal. Any punk live performance. Lots and Lots of obscure prog. Tops of the Pops. Old commercials. Fake commercials. I don't even care that the quality isn't that astounding, I can still see and hear it.

Who the hell is MTV's audience? Does their head cause them all to float when they walk? When you think about it, all MTV consists of is their audience . .. filmed overdramatizing completely mundane life events. This is a network?

I'm in the wrong business.

[XemaSab]

12. I don't know what people watch on there anymore

:shrug:

[Initech]

13. There's that shitty "Hills" show and that's about it.

[Mojambo]

14. The internet killed the MTV star... n/t

[Orsino]

17. I don't know whether they're still any sort of vanguard...

...but I guess all those YouTube videos have to come from somewhere.

[carlyhippy]

18. it was over when they started showing reality shows instead of all videos

I watched a shot at love and that was about it. I watch VH1 classic channel.

[Javaman]

19. MTV died about 2 weeks after it started.

when they started refusing to run "controversial" videos. since then, it's been more about melodrama, crappy music videos (which they never play anymore), fart jokes, lame ass programming and what ever it is they call that is supposed to pass for comedy.

[MrCoffee]

21. Remote Control was the beginning of the end of MTV

Blame Ken Ober, it's all his fault.