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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 12:49 PM
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Seattle Snowpocalypse - The Story Continues (Pictures)


Outside my office window.



Somewhere down there is my car.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 12:54 PM
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1. What part of town do you work?
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 12:55 PM
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4. Actually, "office" in this case is my spare bedroom.
I'm in Newcastle. The actual office is in Renton.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 12:54 PM
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2. Nyah, nyah! 68° and the sun is shing in Austin
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 12:57 PM
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6. Yeah well. When it's 80 in August here, I will be smiling.
This snowfall is very rare. Rain I signed up for; this is craziness!
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:17 PM
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Lot easier to stay cool than to get warm.
And even when it's hot you can go to the lake.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:19 PM
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17. My lake is bigger.
;) And closer. Just down the hill. Don't know that I'd SWIM in it, but it's pretty. :D

Hey, if it weren't for the promotion and being closer to my SO, I'd still be in Austin. :)
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:22 PM
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19. Wonder what the water temperature is.
Turn you blue and make your weewee shrivel up is my guess.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:23 PM
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20. Hahaha! Very true.
:)
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 12:55 PM
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3. It doesn't look like that much snow
Not by mid-western standards, anyway. Are you just not used to it out there?
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 12:56 PM
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5. We have had over a foot of snow here this winter.
It does not normally snow in Seattle. At all. This is very rare.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:07 PM
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12. Ah, panic when faced with the unfamiliar
I witnessed an incredible scene in Durham, North Carolina a few years back. It had started to snow. Everyone instantly panicked and got in their cars to rush home. An hour later the snow had stopped and the city was gridlocked.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 05:27 PM
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60. Hills. We have hills out here. What is called a mountain in the midwest.
And many places don't use deicers on the road either. It snows. People drive on in and slush out the tire tracks. It freezes and turns into ice. Faced with a hill with ice and cars twirling down it, many of us (even we transplanted flat landers) chose to not go out.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 03:18 PM
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49. Forgive my correction, pls.
Normally does not..or did not, from 1945 to 1986, when I lived there, it
did not snow in Seattle often. About every 3-5 years a 3-4 inch fall.
Every 10 years or so, 8-10 inches,
"normally" washed away within a week when the rains came back, temps came up.
twice I can remember long cold spells, frozen snow for over a week.

This snow fall is longer, you are getting more accumulation, esp. in the outlying areas.
usually being so close to Puget Sound keeps it too warm to snow much.

Hope it is an aberration.
Meanwhile, the "fun" part is watching the demolition derby down the steep hills.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 12:57 PM
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7. Seattle is not used to it and is completely unprepared for it
It's sort of ridiculous out here these days.


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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:38 PM
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45. Typically, it snows maybe once or twice a year in Seattle,
accummulations of an inch or less, and it doesn't stick around for more than a day. It just doesn't get cold enough for that. For that reason, the city didn't feel it was a wise use of city funds to invest in snow plows, so there might be one or two old plows around somewhere, but we don't have a fleet of them. We have sanding trucks, and under most local conditions, that's all we need. These are unusual conditions for us. The city is unprepared to deal with it. Drivers hereabouts are unused to driving in snow and on ice and the terrain is very hilly. Many side roads are simply closed owing to the hazard. Malls have been dead and some have shut down so as to not lose any more capital. All this in the week leading up to Christmas. I firmly believe in its own way, it's a disaster.
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 04:39 PM
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59. Nope
Just because we're as far north as Fargo doesn't mean anything. Eastern Wa gets tons of snow, but the Pacific and Puget Sound keeps Western Washington relatively warm.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 12:58 PM
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8. I just read that they're refusing to use salt on the roads
due to the run-off hitting Puget Sound. And they're using sand instead.


SAND! It makes it worse!
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:00 PM
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9. They can do whatever they want.
I'm staying off the roads until this shit melts.

I don't know that it's sand; I always thought it was that kitty litter type stuff.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:13 PM
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14. It's the most asinine thing ever
The Seattle Times has a big story today on how bad sand is vs. salt.


"Instead of clearing major roads, Seattle aims to create a "hard-packed" snow surface suitable for all-wheel and four-wheel-drive vehicles, and front-wheel-drive vehicles with chains. The packed snow is then sprinkled with sand and sprayed with de-icer."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008554976_roads24m.html

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:17 PM
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16. I have no AWD, 4WD or chains.
Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 01:17 PM by GOPisEvil
Hence, I am at home.

Now, on Monday when the roads were hard pack snow, I managed just fine. :shrug: Until I tried getting up the hill into my parking lot at home. Now I'm out on the street. x(
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:33 PM
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24. I saw that on the news last night!
Dumbest. Idea. Ever.
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:03 PM
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10. Frankly, I think all of this
snow that we're (and you of course) are getting is simply beautiful. Then again, this year my commute to work is only 1.3 miles versus 22 from last year.

Here's a most beautiful street that I take to work every day. Taken about 1/2 hour ago.


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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:04 PM
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11. Oh, it's freaking lovely.
I get to work from home, so I'm just sitting in the heat and enjoying it all.
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:12 PM
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13. LOL! You work from home?
Then why the griping about the weather? ;)

Many times I wish that I would work from home.

Actually, I took today off, but am checking my work e-mail, and am having an interesting tete-a-tete with the big boss.



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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:15 PM
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15. I do not normally work from home.
However, since I am in management, I have the option to work from home when the weather is inclement. Our hourly employees have to show up, use vacation, or be docked pay. :(

I am not griping, per se, but I'd rather have the weather I was promised. Cool, gray and wet I signed on for. The white stuff is for those people out east over the mountains. ;)
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:30 PM
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22. Well, you'd best take up your
weather concerns with upper management. I sense some type of completion is required.

Management - LOL (I'm middle). When upper management e-mails us saying that they are working from home we just chuckle.

Hell, when I want a day off, I just call in sick. I've got a brazillion hours of sick pay coming. ;)

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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:33 PM
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23. Actually, I am at the lowest management level in this huge corporation.
I have to give my manager credit. She and her Land Rover are in the office today.

I have my work computer with e-mail and actual work open alongside my desktop computer. :)
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:39 PM
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27. Okay, with those definitions
I am working too. I'm going to have to tell the big boss that today is not officially a vacation day for me. Oh hell, I'm on the payroll today. :rofl:

And just as an aside. He e-mailed everyone that that he's cleaning his office and has found some interesting stuff that we should all read. I asked him when he's done with his office, if he could please saunter down to mine and start cleaning too. Alas, he said he does not have enough time. My office (ahem) is a bit of a challenge.

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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:41 PM
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29. Office?
Like 4 walls and a door?

I have a fancy cube with windows. And, it's along the outside wall which also has a window. :)

I have only been here 6 weeks, not enough time for my mess to accumulate. ;)
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:55 PM
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31. Ahhhhh . . .
only six weeks. Well, you're just feeling your way around. Here's a pic that I took a few days ago. It's a view outside my office. I look at that every day. I am truly blessed. Must update it though, b/c there's a big, huge snow pile now on the "what was once green" space. You can not see the picnic table, and snow is, ummm . . ., well, I'm guessing half way up that tree.

In the spring/summer there's beautiful flowers planted througout.

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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:57 PM
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32. I have a lovely view of the parking lot and the 405.
:D
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:04 PM
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35. 405? Highway?
This?

Ohhhh, sorry to hear that. My view, no matter what weather is great.

When I got my promotion, (they split my position) my first (alright second, raise question - lol) was if I had to move from my office. The answer was "no". "Whew"

I do have a lovely view, not matter what season.

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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:06 PM
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37. Yes, Los Angeles isn't the only city with a 405.
We have our own. :)
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:11 PM
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41. Ohhhhhhh . . . LA . . .
Well, I'm from the Midwest. We only have little roads. :rofl:

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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:14 PM
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43. This is ours.
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:31 PM
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72. And the traffic on BOTH sucks greasy goose turds
I have had the displeasure of being a regular commuter on western WA's 405 and West L.A.'s 405, aka the San Diego Freeway.

x(
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 03:59 PM
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54. Working from home too (when I have work), and it's 81 degrees here today!
I went to the grocery today and a pretty young woman was pedaling by me on the street wearing skimpy shorts, a tank top, sandals and Ray-bans. I thought "now THAT doesn't look like your typical Christmas Eve attire"! lol!
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 04:02 PM
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55. I've worn shorts on Christmas many times.
Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 04:59 PM by GOPisEvil
Those days are over for the present at least. :rofl:
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:21 PM
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18. Wait, you moved to Seattle?
When did that happen? Where have I been? :D :hi:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:24 PM
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21. I moved here last month. I arrived on election day.
Got a promotion, sold the house and moved on up. :hi:
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:35 PM
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25. i missed the big move, too
happy happy for you! :hug:

lovely pictures, btw.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:36 PM
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26. Hey!!!
It's good to see you! :hug:

Yeah, I'm closer to a certain someone, which is the icing on the cake for me.
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:41 PM
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28. sweet!
i am delighted for you both. Merry Merry! :)

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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 01:42 PM
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30. You too! Have a great holidays!
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Phillycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:00 PM
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33. Movin' on up! To the...west side!
Congratulations! :hug:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:07 PM
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38. Thanks, I appreciate it!
:hug:
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 04:35 PM
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58. No, Renton is the East Side
(even though parts of it are basically directly south of Seattle)
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 04:08 PM
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56. Welcome to the Great Northwet!
Yes, Northwet :) If you're a mind to, tune into www.kser.org
A great little community radio station up in Everett...
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 05:29 PM
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61. Welcome to the northwest.
It is a nice place out here.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:00 PM
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34. We're in Duvall
One of our friends measured the snow on her patio last night before it started snowing AGAIN. She had seventeen inches at that time. We're supposed to get another six inches today.

To say that I was over this a week ago is an understatement. We're housebound, due to the fact we can't get our hands on chains (can't drive to get them; the roads here are insanely icy.) As a result, it's almost time to start baking. We'll be doing the family Christmas on Saturday -- that is, if everyone can get here.



Happy Holidays to all, and it would be nice if the people of Alaska would come on down and pick up their snow. :woohoo:
Julie
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:05 PM
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36. No kidding!
Call Gov. Palin to come get this snow! :D
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:39 PM
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46. Hey Julie!
I was thinking about you two, wondering if you'd been buried out there. Sounds like it. It's pretty bad here too. It's beautiful, but dang, driving conditions totally suck. I've been working from home for a week!

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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:08 PM
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39. Is it the wet, heavy kind of snow?
When I lived there back in the 90's, we had a real dumping. Roofs were caving in. A houseboat down on the lake was about to tip over from the weight of snow on the roof. People living on boats were evacuated, because the marina shelter roofs were sagging. And up on Capital Hill, the other Safeway, up the hill, had its roof collapse.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:10 PM
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40. It's the fluffy type.
At least that is what it has been so far.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:13 PM
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42. As long as rain doesn't follow.
Then the fluffy stuff turns into sponges.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:15 PM
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44. Er, yeah....rain is forecast for this weekend...
Lovely.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 05:30 PM
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62. That is supposed to happen starting about now.
NWS warnings include extra stuff about people with flat roofs and fluffy snow sucking up rainwater. Then, next wk, it will turn into floods.

Sure has been pretty though.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:55 PM
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47. Spokane County just declared a State of Emergency
We've just been upgraded to a Winter Storm Warning from a Storm Watch.

There's another 6-10 inches on the way tonight/tomorrow morning followed by another 1-3 tomorrow afternoon. Which at over 50" total will shatter our record for December snowfall.

And all 50" will have fallen since last Wednesday.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 02:56 PM
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48. Check, please.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 03:26 PM
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51. Now roofs are beginning to cave in
Fun times.
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 03:25 PM
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50. How is Pend Oreille County looking?
My dad lives there and I went to High School in Newport.
What they get in Spokane is usually half of what P.O. County gets.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 03:49 PM
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53. It's been a strange series of storms
I think they have about the same. The one that hit two weeks ago hit all the outlying areas and avoided Spokane for the most part. Last Wednesday's just hovered over Spokane.

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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 04:10 PM
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57. OMFG.
I'm 60" tall. I CANNOT imagine trying to get around in that depth of snow.:scared:
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 06:12 PM
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68. You can't
It's even impossible for XC skis unless a track has been established. I think snow shoes would just sink. The local meteorologist said the moisture ratio was about 25:1 which is about as dry as snow can possibly get though this next dumping is supposed to be a lot heavier.
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 03:33 PM
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52. delete
Edited on Wed Dec-24-08 03:36 PM by yvr girl
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 05:32 PM
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63. Are you kidding me?! It's snowing AGAIN!
Big, white puffy snowflakes are falling now. I thought this was supposed to switch to rain.

x(
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 05:41 PM
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64. I thought you lived in Texas?
:shrug:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 05:43 PM
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65. I moved up here last month.
Got a promotion and made the move. Got here on election day.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 05:44 PM
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66. good for you!!
:)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 05:48 PM
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67. This place has been asshole-free since Zomby left.
That had to be addressed. Now matcom has to move to Austin, Then Zomby to Boston. :D
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:23 PM
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71. Ha!
You can't make me choose between Austin and Boston (hey, they rhyme!). :P

But if forced, I would take Austin (as the only place in Texas I could tolerate). But matcom has to move to L.A. :rofl:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 06:26 PM
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69. First I heard of it!
Congo-rats, but I'll miss you in Austin. :)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 06:28 PM
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70. Holy Carp! What's all that white stuff? It looks like ash, but scarier!
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:34 PM
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73. The "Metro mystery bus challenge" is killing me in West Seattle.
Which buses are running? What routes are they taking today? How many full buses will pass me by before I can finally get on? Oh, it's a puzzler, I tell ya.


Yesterday, after 4 full buses passed by, I walked 2 miles up to the Junction, the first stop on the route--there were about a hundred people waiting there. After almost an hour, one small empty bus arrived. Luckily, I got on, but a lot of people didn't. Who knows how long those folks waited.

There are reports of three-hour waits for buses home to W. Seattle. Every bus in and out is packed solid, even this morning, a semi-holiday. My average commute one way has gone up to about two hours...and I work 6 miles from home.

Seriously, I know Seattle winters are kind of a joke, but conditions have been very bad. Traveling has been dangerous, particularly for older people and families with kids.

I can't wait for our plain old gray and drizzly winter to return.

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:36 PM
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74. You and me both!
I managed to bring some files home from my office last Friday (the day between snow storms), and can access stuff at work on the computer. Well, that is, until today. I have a ton of reports that need to be done, and I can't get on the server for my office! GRRR!


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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-08 09:57 PM
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75. Another 2-4" tonight, too.
At least I have tomorrow off and don't have to worry about commuting. I think I'll probably have to work Saturday again this week to get caught up, though.

Wah.

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