Former American Gladiator 'Nitro' Says Steroids Ruined His Sex Life

[Blue_Tires]

Here's a great way to keep teenage boys off steroids and other performance enhancers. Boys, if you take steroids, sex will hurt and you'll grow giant man-boobs!

Honestly, I think that needs to be in some sort of commercial. What 16 year-old boy would try to labor through the work of obtaining illicit substances, evading drug tests -- and all the other trouble it would be to juice -- in order to forego his adult sex life and grow female features?

Dan Clark, the American Gladiator formerly known as "Nitro," is coming out with a book about his life. In it, he says that he eventually had to undergo breast reduction surgery, in 1996, to free himself of the dreaded man boobs. On the bedroom performance ... uh ...

(Steroids) also took their toll on his private parts, so much so that he embarrassingly had to explain to women what was going on. "My b- - -s never really regained their size. They're kind of shriveled," he sadly told one bedmate. In addition, steroids subjected him to a "dull throbbing pain" every time he had sex.

http://backporch.fanhouse.com/2009/01/05/former-american-gladiator-nitro-says-steroids-ruined-his-sex-l/

Barry Bonds' mistress also had some fun stories about their sex life, too...

[flvegan]

1. The "man boobs" is called gynecomastia.

Very common among heavy abusers of steroids, though not as severe as can be from body abnormalities.

For the record, Major League Baseball started airing anti-steroid ads that allude to the testicle issue.

[Fire Walk With Me]

2. Dibs on "gynecomastia" if Skinner ever offers name-change amnesty.

[trof]

3. You crack me up.

:rofl:

[Deja Q]

8. What, "Peak" doesn't speak for itself already?

:spray:

Just jivin'. If you really want gynecomastia, I won't interfere... (and it's your sense of humor:

:yourock:

)

[Fire Walk With Me]

12. That would be "Twin Peaks"

and no one would know that I really meant Moobs. :shrug:

"Say what you mean, and say it mean." -Foetus

[LeftyMom]

4. People get that from hormones in meat too.

Meat: Not so manly if it gives you bitch tits. :rofl:

[Kali]

5. citations please

[LeftyMom]

6. Sure.

The dangers of hormone additives were signaled by an epidemic of premature sexual development and ovarian cysts in 3,000 Puerto Rican infants and children from 1979 to 1981. These effects were traced to contamination of meat and were reversed by dietary changes. Using research techniques, meat products were found highly contaminated with estrogens, and Zeranol and excess estrogens were found in the blood of afflicted children. This epidemic also was associated with increased uterine and ovarian cancers in adults.

http://www.preventcancer.com/press/editorials/march10_92.htm

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/88620?dopt=Abstract

"Accidental gynecomastia in children"
(APMIS 109-suppl.103,pp 203-9, 2001)

Let me know if you want more, this was quick and dirty.

[flvegan]

9. Dr. Harmeet Narula (sp?) wrote a piece in the 90's, too.

[LeftyMom]

10. I read a more expanded treatment of the PR thing somewhere

The link I posted doesn't really explain, but they had a very pronounced uptick in grade school aged girls getting periods and boys showing up at the doctor with boobs.

[flvegan]

13. Anyone with two eyes that can look at todays youth

maturing more quickly, and discount the possibility of hormones in food ushering that along, is a fucking idiot.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

17. That's a "damn kids won't stay off my lawn these days" type statement.

Average age of menarche, for instance, hasn't changed in forty years. It changed in the decades before the sixties, but only due better diets, lack of malnutrition.

[flvegan]

19. Like I said...

[TZ]

25. I would say its more likely due to water supply contamination

I don't know if you've seen the studies that show hermaphroditic fish in many water ways, including the Potomac River. Its thought that various pollutants contribute to this,including speculation that human hormones have been released into the river, since there is no good way to screen for them during purification..
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/05/AR2006090501384.html

[flvegan]

26. Or water supply contamination from hormones from feedlots?

http://www.innovations-report.com/html/reports/environment_sciences/report-24374.html

[TZ]

28. Possibly.

I will say that the livestock industry has a terrible record around here with pollution. I believe a terrible PFisteria outbreak on the eastern shore of Maryland was associated with chicken farms (most likely Purdue..whom even though I LOVE chicken I never buy) dumping into the Bay.
BTW, I heard today that our local environmental group, the Chespeake Bay Foundation is sueing the EPA for lack of effort in cleaning up the bay...even though they obligated by law to do so..

[flvegan]

30. Good for the Chesapeake Bay Foundation.

I hope they rip them a new one.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

35. Whaddaya mean there's no good way to screen for them?

LC-MS works perfectly fine for hormones.

[TZ]

68. Not in the waste water sewage treatment systems..

They screen for bacteria and such but thats WAAAY too sophisticated and expensive for normal processing. Same for a lot of drugs..Thats why you are told to NOT dump pills in the toilet.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

70. Not for routine daily testing, no.

But you wouldn't need daily testing.

[Kali]

39. also many hormonal disrupting chemicals/compounds

especially laundry brighteners and fire retardents

[Kali]

40. anyone who doesn't understand that what you see can be caused by any number of things

and automatically attributes it to one reason is a fucking idiot. Especially considering the OP!:rofl:

[flvegan]

43. Any number of things that en masse, people in all locations

all races/genders/classes all have the same reactions. So...

breathing air? Probably not.

How about consuming a diet that has, as stipulated by the FDA, been compromised as to having levels of chemicals that induce those very same reactions?

You'd have to pay a jury off for them to find otherwise.

[Kali]

46. or drinking water, but

where exactly did you get those "facts"?

"people in all locations all races/genders/classes all have the same reactions".

[flvegan]

49. I knew you'd say that.

Drinking water has many sources, none of which have conclusively been linked to the addition of hormones (short of water tainted by feedlots, but whatever, right?). However, en masse, they eat the same shitty, chemically tainted meat and dairy.

I'd love nothing more than to see a double blind test where folks ate all the meat and dairy they wanted. One side, grass-fed, organic dope-less meat, milk and cheese against the average American diet of frankenburgers and pussjuice.

Like I said, to which you responded, the youth of our nation are maturing faster and earlier. If you don't have eyes, maybe you don't see it.

Send it back to the jury all you want.

[Kali]

52. I knew you would say you knew I would say that.

Observation of a phenomenon does not equal proof of a cause. Show me the literature. (In fact while you're at it, show me something proving your observation that maturity rates are earlier, cause honestly I don't see it AND I have been around kids for oh the past 20 years)

Now there IS some work beginning on endocrine disrupters in water and some of the most prevelant are in your fucking laundry detergent and other ubiquitous pollutants. Nevermind actual hormones DIRECTLY ingested by women, and yes along with crap implanted in livestock. I am pretty god damn sure nobody has the proportions worked out or even proved a link, despite your magical observational skills.

[flvegan]

55. Well, being in the sticks may be the reason.

Google it. You'll find that I'm not the only observer. And like I posted, the EC shows that there's concern. Sorry that you can't see the smoking gun for what it is.

[Kali]

64. Google it? No links?

There's one.

[flvegan]

66. No dear, that isn't one.

I'm making an actual point that I'm not the only one saying this. I'm just not offering it up as fact as you falsely did in your post about me.

[Blue_Tires]

67. for the record, i had the condition growing up, too

but in my case it was probably hereditary, seeing the other men in my family(corrected with surgery when i was in my early 20s)

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

11. I'd like more, please.

The first link's disreputable.

The second's inconclusive.

[LeftyMom]

16. Be a bit, I have to dig around in books.

[flvegan]

18. You'll call this inconclusive, but the EC write up is a good read.

http://ec.europa.eu/food/fs/sc/scv/out21_en.pdf

If you read the whole thing, the evidence is there. Again, you'll call it inconclusive.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

20. How about some page numbers?

[flvegan]

22. You said you wanted more, so read.

The entire report has validity in the discussion.

Bear in mind, the FDA has already stated that the remainder of estradiol, etc (hormones) in meat consumed by people is within "normal" levels. The FDA openly admits that hormones and steroids are getting into our systems. Guess the trust of others of our beloved FDA is greater than mine.

How much "extra" hormone (both test and estrogen) should we be putting in our bodies? The FDA admits we're getting it, so I stand on my previous statements on quicker maturing in kids/teens that I stated before.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

24. I read the section relevant to hormones in meat.

And didn't see anything.

You made the claim there's something in there, so cite it.

"Bear in mind, the FDA has already stated that the remainder of estradiol, etc (hormones) in meat consumed by people is within "normal" levels. The FDA openly admits that hormones and steroids are getting into our systems. Guess the trust of others of our beloved FDA is greater than mine."

I trust the FDA over anonymous internet users, sure. The FDA says the hormones within meat is within normal levels. The article you posted says the same thing. Seems open and shut.

[flvegan]

27. Nope. Read it.

It's not worth my time with posters notorious for ranting about how orange the sky is when it's actually blue.

Like I said, steroids given to cattle wind up in our system. It's why the EU banned cattle from here in the 90's. Ignore what you like.

Have a nice evening.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

29. Have you read it yourself?

I don't think it says what you think it says.

[flvegan]

31. Few times.

As a vegan and a personal trainer, meat and steroids, when they cross my path at the same time, become of greater interest.

I applaud your ability to read a 100 odd page scientific report so quickly.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

32. As somebody who can read a table of contents and find the relevant sections...

I applaud your transparent claims to have read this a "few times."

[flvegan]

33. Sky is still orange, huh?

I applaud your transparent claim to be able to "read a table of contents".

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

34. Maybe I can't read a table of contents.

But I've taken you to school.

[flvegan]

36. Think what you like, chilly.

I love this last resort declaration of victory. Shame this one doesn't work out for you like it does too often (not that you're the only one here that does it). Blathering on endlessly touting an incorrect or opinionated argument JUST for the sake of argument. JUST to be a dick, until you've pissed off everyone in the discussion and they just forget your sorry ass and move on. At which point, you, full of pride, consider yourself the victor.

To the point that there's a reputation for it. I remember like it was yesterday, laughing hysterically at the posting of a DUer making a suicide run calling out this very behavior and naming names. That was a couple years ago, no less.

Cracks me the fuck up to this day.

Have a good evening.

[Kali]

45. you're lucky to even get a link

he usually backs out by saying he isn't going to do your research for you

[flvegan]

50. Citations, please?

[Kali]

53. hmm do a search for squealing pigs, for a starter

but hey I ain't going to do your research for you :rofl:

[flvegan]

56. You said "usually"

So show me a majority.

[Kali]

57. no, I said

"he usually backs out by saying he isn't going to do your research for you"

irritating isn't it?

[flvegan]

59. So then...you can't.

Meaning you were asked to prove a point you made about me, but you can't.

Not irritating, just inaccurate on your part. Thanks.

[Kali]

63. You are right, I am inaccurate

- because I sure as hell haven't read every post or thread you have been involved in, nor am I going to do that now just to prove a point. I have seen you do it on more than one occasion. And no I'm not going to prove it with links, because as I said I'm sure as hell not going to go reading through a search of flvgan authored posts. Maybe you could do a poll asking if anybody has argued with you and had the response of no links/"not gonna do your research" :hi:

[flvegan]

65. A point you couldn't prove if you wanted to.

Which makes your point and your original accusation nothing more than bullshit.

Have a nice day.

[Kali]

37. First is an editorial with no citations and even your quote fails to mention gynecomastia

Your second link is to an abstract and I can't seem to find the whole paper in a quick search, but going by the wording in the abstract is seems to have been some kind of isolated incident, especially since there doesn't seem to be much else out there and no cause was fully determined.

My OPINION is that we shouldn't be using this shit on food animals and I sure as hell don't do it, but the science so far has NOT shown much conclusive evidence that is is harmful, and as for gynecomastia I can't find much of anything. Logic tells me if this were a well established scientific finding there would be more info available.

If you can track down something by somebody named Isselbacher (and most likely KJ are the first initials), they got quoted in an unsourced essay that turned up in several places.

[LeftyMom]

41. As I already posted, other reporting on that incident makes it clear that the

"premature sexual development" mentioned was gynecomastica in prepubertal males, as well as premature menarche in girls.

[Kali]

48. ok I'll take your word on that one, got ANYTHING else?

[Tektonik]

42. my mom is convinced her breasts grew due to meat in the us

My mom is french and came here in 85. She was an A cup and now a D.

She has stopped smoking and put on like 50 pounds compared to when she was in france, but she thanks hormone laden meat in the US for her rack.

There is a reason breasts are larger in the US than in Europe, and hormones in meat is one of them.

[Kali]

47. now there is some science!

a woman gains 50 pounds but her larger breasts are because of hormones in meat:rofl:

oh and I love the breasts are larger in the US than Europe:rofl: (clue: whole bodies are larger too!)
(another clue: cars and television)

[Tektonik]

58. I never claimed it as scientific fact

Also women just don't get larger breasts from just putting on weight.

Anyways my example is what it is, and anyhow why would European farmers be banned from injecting their cows with god knows what if those hormones weren't detrimental.

[Lethe]

62. well that's at least a positive side effect of it!

heheh!

but seriously, i read an article a while back that did a national comparison study on breast size and the UK women have the largest breasts by far. It would be interesting to see what stuff they feed their cows there!

[sasquatch]

61. That's why I buy meat from a local butcher, not a Wal-Mart

[Deja Q]

7. And we should care about Shrinky Dink, because...?

I feel sorry their sex lives' weren't perfect. And if that's all they're basing relationships on, I'm hard pressed to have compassion after a certain point. Especially in a day and age where "wham bam, thanks and be sure to get tested every 3 months" is given more spotlight than actually building up something of substance.

And the sports industry being influential in these folks taking these drugs - that's pathetic too. But whatever.

And if some guy with a DD-cup can hawk a book about his sex life, what I endured as a kid would sell thrice as much and become a Lifetime Channel movie of the week too. /ironicboast

[Fire Walk With Me]

14. Do you like films about Gladiators, Timmy?

[Deja Q]

21. No. All they do is chop off each other's heads. I don't need to sit through a doco on circumcision.

:shrug:

[Fire Walk With Me]

23. Do you like films about American Gladiators, Timmy?

[Pierre.Suave]

15. Karma, Stupidity, and Ignorance...

all come back to haunt you sooner or later...

[Taverner]

38. Come on

If the drugs aren't making you feel better - DON'T DO THEM!

[flvegan]

44. They made him money.

It's the reason why 90% of folks in sports/entertainment that use them, do so.

[Taverner]

54. Ahhh this is true

Very true

[MrSlayer]

51. Duh. I thought everyone knew steroids shrunk your nuts.

Great, you're all buff and sexy and can't fuck. What good is it?

[Fire Walk With Me]

60. That's the big difference between being in the public eye

and being in private.

If everyone knew the effects of steroids as a given, how many would continue to take them? That would be an interesting study.

[Rabrrrrrr]

69. Oh, who cares. Anyone empty enough to be part of American Gladiator deserves ruination in life.

[Blue_Tires]

71. wow...70 posts

and only 6 respond to the OP...does this ratio set a record?:crazy:

[alphafemale]

72. !

Not when the vegans and the meatasaurs go at it.

BATTLE!

[Eurobabe]

73. So how did Ahnold have all those kids?

Didn't he do steroids too? :shrug: