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masmdu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 09:36 AM
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Steve Martin New York Times Editorial....Looking for a Link.
Steve Martin's editorial on Bush from a few days ago in the NYT.

I cant seem to find it.

Any help? Thanks
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 09:40 AM
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1. It was in Friday's paper
If that helps. Not sure I got his point. At first he seemed to be making fun of Bush, but then I thought he might be making fun of Dumbo's critics.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 09:43 AM
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2. here
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 09:58 AM
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3. I am so disappointed in Steve Martin
When I read this thing in its entirety it seems to say absolutely nothing. No wonder there is confusion about whom he is knocking. It does in the end seem to be criticizing Bush's critics, or at least very much minimizing the idea that Bush's Iraq war is criticizable. It's just a meaningless play on words that seems to have no point. If I, a complete unknown, had written this, I would have gotten the standard "so sorry we can't use this" form letter so fast it would make my head spin. Apparently being famous gives someone license to have whatever meaningless tripe published, no questions asked.

And just to be sure that it was indeed written by THE Steve Martin, I googled his name and sure enough he did write a book called Shopgirl, which is mentioned at the end.

I do love all of Steve Martin's movies. I will still love them and consider him to be a comic genius, but now I must accept the fact that as a political pundit he absolutely sucks.
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MoonGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:10 AM
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4. Didn't blow me away, but I think he makes his point...
... looks like criticism of the way the media has handled this whole thing.

Asking the wrong questions
Focusing on the "16 words"
Allowing BushRoveCo to obfuscate the truth with nonsense
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:26 AM
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7. He ends up by letting George Bush off the hook!!!
I never cared for his comedy anyway but this piece is not only not funny it is pointless!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:31 AM
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11. Focusing on the *Details* and Missing the Big Picture
Is something both Bush detractors and Bush defenders are doing.

There's nothing to derail an argument like getting bogged down in semantics.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:11 AM
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5. Always thought he wasn't much of a writer
The films he's written never quite gel, if you know what i mean. He's better doing other people's material. I keep thinking about his commment at the Oscars right after Michael Moore was on stage and Martin said something about Teamsters escorting him into the trunk of a car. Could have just been a quip, could have been that he didn't agree with Moore.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:15 AM
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6. I think he was criticizing Bush
But not very well. I'm disappointed that it's not very well done. What you said about famous people being given license is on the nose and this is a distressingly good example.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 11:38 AM
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12. He's clearly ridiculing Bush
The last paragraph can only be from Bush's point of view, therefore the rest has to be, too. Can't see Bush using the word "palindrome," but still.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:36 AM
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8. I consider myself a reasonably intelligent, informed person
and I have no idea WTF he was talking about.

Maybe it was a parody, something Bush might say to defend his outright lying.

But it's pretty weak, even as parody.
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:41 AM
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9. Well
It started out pretty good by harping on the media's giving a pass on the "did" statements but then he petered off in the last paragraph.

Odd.
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baffie Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-10-03 10:42 AM
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10. I like it. Makes the point for me.
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