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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:12 AM
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I wonder if that old stereotype about truckers is still alive and well
You know, the one that says truck drivers drive trucks for a living because they can't do anything else.

I've applied for a light construction job with the state; at a large retail grocery store; at the public library; at a real estate company for an accounts receivable position; at UPS as a package handler; and at a local military base for a civilian, apprentice, plumber position.

Not even a little nibble. The library was kind enough to send me a post card saying that they are now reviewing all applications. That's it. I have some experience as a printer and I've got 2.5 years in at a 4 year college, but almost all of my work experience is as a trucker. How badly do you think that is hurting me in my quest to switch careers?
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:37 AM
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1. I doubt it's the trucker background. I think it's just the economy in general.
Lots of people out of work, so all those jobs that normally might not have a large number of applicants are likely getting flooded.

I've been seeing in the papers that even college graduated professionals who have lost their jobs are applying for retail jobs, restaurant work, and so on, because that's all that's available.

I assume by this that you lost your trucking job? Sorry to hear it, and i wish you well in finding a job!
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 06:54 AM
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2. No, I haven't lost my job
My job is killing me and it's time to get out. Someone told me that I should be glad that I have a job at all right now. I bet they'd think a little differently if they had to hang out with me for a while at work.
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Callalily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 07:00 AM
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3. Rabrrrrrr is right. Please don't get
discouraged. There's a lot of people looking for work and competition is fierce right now. Just keep applying to jobs that interest you and something will eventually come along.

You may not like your job, but it makes the search less stressful when one is still employed.

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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 07:49 AM
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4. It's probably easier to find a job as an employed trucker than an unemployed trucker, anyway.
I'm guessing it's the economy.
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Blue Diadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 08:03 AM
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5. I think it's the economy Droopy.
Don't let it get you down, just keep looking and something will come along. Right now, there are so many unemployed and not enough jobs to go around. I've heard there are hundreds of applications for any one position available.




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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 08:36 AM
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6. I guess so.
Edited on Mon Jan-26-09 08:38 AM by Iggo
As long as simpletons are alive and well.

And seriously, I'd never heard that one about truckers. Just the one about their being assholes who think they own the road...lol.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 09:11 AM
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7. It's not about your trucker experience.
Trust me. I can't get a call back on anything either.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:37 AM
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8. that's a good question
My Dad had other skills. He was a brilliant offset pressman,pilot and fitter/welder. But somehow, every time he said he was hanging up driving big rigs OTR, he always wound up driving again.
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:43 AM
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9. I've been trying to get out of trucking for 7 years
It's kind of like the mafia. You may find yourself in the profession fairly easily, but then find that it's almost impossible to leave.

I'm not an OTR trucker anymore. I just drive in Ohio and I'm home every day. I really want to get out of this business. It's looking like my only option might be college in this economy. I have no idea how I'd work that, though. I'm my household's only source of income.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:51 AM
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10. godspeed to you
I watched Dad go at it for years and years. He did the best at union LTL freight carriers, but was hit by deregulation in the '70s and wound up getting laid off and driving non-union again until he finally got on with Roadway in '83 to finish out his retirement. Most folks will never realize what kind of man-killing work trucking is, but I watched him work 70 hours a week and can attest to the way it aged him before his time.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:52 AM
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11. My brother told me old truckers never die
they just get a new Peterbilt. :-)

more a sign of the times than a reflection of your experience.

Best wishes.
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 10:59 AM
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12. Hey wait! My trucker stereotype is askew
I thought drivers were pill-poppin' cowboys that always have hotloads! ;)

Hope you get into another job if that's what you want.

:hi:
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:07 AM
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13. I guess there's lots of stereotypes about truckers :)
I'm a pill popper and my load is always smokin' but not so much on the cowboy part. But, yeah, I haul that just-in-time shit and choke down 4 caffeine pills a night plus a bunch of coffee. I'm 36, and I feel 96. My body aches after I get off work because I also have to unload the truck by hand. On days like we're going to have here in Ohio until Thursday I get to play in the ice and snow and try not to get killed or kill anyone else. I can't sleep when I get home because of the stress even though I'm dead dog tired.
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Inchworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:17 AM
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15. I forgot the stereotypes within stereotypes
"Look out he's backing up!"

"Passin' a pumpkin, ..again"

"That driver is always in the picklepark! Who me...BEEP"

:rofl:

I can't remember them all.

:hug:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 11:13 AM
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14. Might be your resume or application.
If you've got a lot of diverse, unrelated skills for a job, HR might focus more on someone focused on that specific field. Sounds like the jobs you are trying for are entry level, so you're probably filling out an application, and that means all they'll see is your age and your previous work experience. When I used to hire entry level, we went for young and barely experienced people.

Are you speaking to anyone when you apply, or just turning in an application, or do you turn in a resume? You have to stand out for the job enough for them to put yours on top. Apply in person, looking your best, and try to speak to an owner or manager when you turn in the application. Drop a little about yourself when you do. Don't corner him and badger him into boredom, don't sound desperate. Just say "I'm driving a truck, but I really want to get into (whatever you're applying for)." Don't make it corny, don't make it desperate. They hire you for what you can do for them, so avoid saying anything like "I really want to get out of trucking, I don't care what I get into." You can say that in an interview, maybe, after you've established what you want to do for them. Say "I've always felt I had management potential, and I would love to learn retail (or whatever) from the ground up. I've always been good at sales (or numbers, or hard work, or organization), and I'd love the chance to prove it." Or something like that, but in line with your personality. When you turn in an application, though, don't tell them too much, unless they ask. Just ask for a manager or owner, turn it in, smile confidently, and keep it short. "Just wanted to make eye contact," or even something brutally honest, like "I'm hoping meeting you makes you remember me." Quickly say something to tie you to the resume, and maybe creates a question or two. "Not everyone sees how trucking is related to (whatever the job is)." That might make them ask a couple of questions, or it might just stick in their mind. At that point, you'll see in their eyes whether they want to hear more or whether they are trying to get back to work. Don't overstay, or that's what they'll remember. Leave them wanting more. Smile, not phony, and not desperate. Confidence sells, arrogance repels.

The only knock anyone would have against trucking is that it's not related to their line of work. There may be a stereotype or two about cleanliness or education, and that's why you want to meet whoever is looking at the applications. Let them see you to dispel the stereotype.

And if you apply to jobs with resumes, tailor your resume for each job, if you can. Write a clear objective--"I want to work up to management from this position," or "I want to learn a career in construction from the bottom up." In other words, convince them that you want more than a temp job between driving gigs, or that you are more than a job hopper just trying for a paycheck.

And stretch your imagination. Think about any skills or talents you have, even vague stuff like "Good at following directions, good at scheduling." Try to match job descriptions to what you do, and work that into the application. For instance, if the job requires scheduling or following orders, under previous work history, make a not of that as your job description. That might help relate your experience to their requirements. You may find that you don't even have to aim at entry level.

Last thing: applying for state jobs or through state data banks will give you a high rejection rate, because of the sheer number of applicants, and because a lot of these jobs aren't real in the first place. Agencies have to advertise jobs, but sometimes they already plan to hire from within, or to hire a friend of another employee, and so the listing is just a requirement. Don't get discouraged, just flood the market with your resume. Also, use Craigslist and the local paper, and consider trolling--just walking down a street looking for help wanted signs, or visiting several businesses you'd like to work for even if they have nothing advertised. Since so many other people are doing this, some companies don't even bother advertising. And email resumes to large companies from their websites. Also, ask friends about their jobs and whether they know anyone hiring. A lot of people get hired through connections for jobs that aren't even advertised.

The economy sucks, but there are jobs. You have to keep at it, and convince someone that you can help them. You don't have to be the best application they see, you just have to convince them that they'd like working with you, and that you can do what they need. There's a lot of emotion in hiring. People hire someone they like, or someone they feel good about giving a job to, as much as someone who can do the job. Try to be that person.

Sorry so long. No time to edit. Good luck, and reject anything I say that doesn't fit your personality or doesn't apply. Just giving some tips, not any kind of rule book.
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littlebit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-26-09 12:16 PM
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16. I doubt it has anything to do with you being a trucker.
I just think no one is really hiring right now. Have you tried looking into becoming a dispatcher or maybe finding a yard dog position somewhere. I understand you really wanting to get out of the industry but being a yard dog you would have time to go back to school. Plus you wouldn't lose your income.
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