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Vas Liz Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:14 PM
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Forcing someone to sign - what's it called?
Hi all,

Sorry for the stupid question, but out of curiosity, what is the crime called (if anything) of forcing a person to sign something under threat?
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:14 PM
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1. Coercion? Just a guess. n/t
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:14 PM
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2. Duress? n/t
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:14 PM
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3. Signed under duress?
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:14 PM
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4. duress?
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:15 PM
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5. Damn, we're good!
:toast:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:15 PM
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6. Marriage?
j/k :evilgrin:

I too say it's duress.
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:27 PM
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11. Ouch!
Ba-dum-bum!
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:15 PM
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7. Fraud, bribery, extortion, coercion... depends on HOW they were forced
to sign something.
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Vas Liz Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:28 PM
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13. Forced via threat
i.e. Sign this or X bad thing will happen.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:55 PM
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21. Forced via threat = extortion
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:15 PM
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8. It's called a mortgage.
Or "duress".

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Limbought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:18 PM
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9. Welcome To The DU, Vas Liz!
:hi:
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:23 PM
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10. Coercion or duress
They are both appropriate in this case
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Vas Liz Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:27 PM
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12. So "duress" would actually be the name of the crime?
I suppose I'm trying to find a single word for what the crime would be called. i.e. you get charged with "trespassing" if you are on someones property when you are told not to. So with this you would be charged with "duress"?
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:32 PM
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14. Why are you asking,
if you don't mind my wanting to know?
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Vas Liz Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:36 PM
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18. Well
The thought occured to me that I don't know what the term is for it, and I don't see any reason not to learn it.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:32 PM
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15. I don't know if it's a criminal offense
But courts can invalidate anything they rule to have been signed under duress (a marriage certificate, enlistment papers, a contract).
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Vas Liz Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:34 PM
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16. Hmmm
Well that may be why I haven't been able to find a name for it.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:54 PM
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20. Sorry for the ambiguity
The legal term for the crime would seem to be coercion. Duress is defined as "compulsion by threat", which would seem to fit this case, although I've never heard of anyone arrested for "duress". And the term "signing under duress" would seem to apply to the victim, rather than the perpetrator.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:36 PM
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17. Walking a picket line
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 06:41 PM
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19. The crime is the type of coercion.
If they threaten bodily injury, it's assault. If they threaten with revealing damaging info, that's blackmail.
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