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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:06 PM
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So, Michael Phelps smokes fucking dope. Why should anyone fucking care?
It happens that I don't smoke that marihoochie myself - but that's just a personal preference.

Anyone else wants to smoke it? Have at it, and I have no right whatsoever to criticize anyone for doing so.

Just don't drive stoned, OK? That's just like driving drunk.

Redstone
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:07 PM
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1. I couldn't agree more. I don't like pot at all (tried it in college) but this has to be
the world's smallest story ever. Who gives a shit?
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:08 PM
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2. Point of order
"That's just like driving drunk."

While it does effect everyone differently, I think that's a blanket statement that's not exactly true for everyone. YMMV.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:12 PM
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6. People say the same thing about alcohol
"I can handle a few drinks, unlike some others. In fact, I'm more careful."

Okay, so it affects everyone different. Let's not experiment on a public road to see how much different is all I think he's saying.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:13 PM
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7. Sorry, BB, I can't agree. I've been driving for almost 40 years, almost 2 million miles,
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 06:14 PM by Redstone
and have NEVER gotten a ticket or had an accident (except when people hit me when I was sitting still).

And the reason for that is that I understand that driving is an activity that needs to be taken seriously, and done with a clear head.

No drinking, no dope smoking, no cellphone, no eating lunch, and NO TEXTING!!!

Redstone
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 12:10 AM
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35. I don't think it's advisable to drive stoned, but there's a reason why alcohol is more dangerous
Fatal car crashes tend to happen at high speeds (this is obvious). Out of all of the distractions/inhibitors you've mentioned above, alcohol is the only one that tends to cause people to drive 40 or 50 miles over the speed limit and thus kill people in the process. Most of the drunk driving fatalities that I've hard of occurred when the driver was going 80 or 90 in a 30 MPH zone.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 12:21 AM
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37. Amen.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:19 PM
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10. well i know someone who is an excellent drunk driver (no, i am NOT joking)
however its not the norm nor should it be encouraged
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:09 PM
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3. I didn't care when this guy was swimming either
The guy looks like a dope, sounds like a dope, and what a shock, he smokes it too.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:10 PM
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4. A tragically bad decision
not Phelps-the guy gets high big deal- I am talking about anyone letting him near their weed... that guy has got to be able to take a trmendous pull on a tube

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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:15 PM
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8. Oh, yeah, imagine that lung capacity: Your stash is GONE!
Redstone
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:07 PM
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30. Now We Know Why Someone Outed Him
Fucking Bogart.
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MajorChode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:10 PM
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5. If a coke freak can become president, and a fat junkie can be king of AM radio...
Phelps will go far.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:16 PM
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9. I agree
Why is what Michael Phelps does in his private leisure time any of my fucking business.

And why is marijuana illegal in the first place. Legalize it, regulate its sale and collect the tax revenue. Might solve some of our economic problems.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:37 AM
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41. +1
all three :patriot:
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:23 PM
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11. A morning radio personality (local) was going postal about Phelps this morning
I don't usually listen to morning radio--radio personalities yammering nonstop so early give me a headache--but I had to run an errand and I was cruising through the buttons on the car radio. Anyway, this radio personality was incensed--just LIVID--that Phelps would do such a thing. It was like she was taking it personally. Her reaction was really over the top. And this was a rock station, not even some conservative talk radio station!

The other person asked her why it bothered her, and she kept saying how it was a betrayal, especially to the companies he did endorsements for, and shameful that he got millions for his endorsements (her implication was that he was living the lie of pretending to be a wholesome athlete--like athleticism and pot smoking can't coexist). Her rant was so disconcerting to me that I switched stations pretty quickly.

I also don't understand why anybody cares what other people do. "An it harm none, do as thou wilt." Life's a lot easier when you're not stressing over other people's life choices, you know? :shrug:
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:32 PM
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12. I'm angry and I have a microphone
This is why radio is in the shitter. They'll do and say anything now (they learned from the master of outrage, BillO The Clown) to get people to listen.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:35 PM
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13. True--and not only that
From what I can discern, morning radio shows (on the music stations) are competing for the "mommies-and-kids-in-minivans-on-the-way-to-school" audience, so they try to fashion their opinions to fit what they expect those soccer moms to be outraged about. (These are the radio stations that always play promos with real moms saying "I know I can put WXYZ on in the car and not worry that there's going to be something on I don't want my precious little urchins to hear!!")
:puke:
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:40 PM
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26. A rock station?!
And what, pray tell, was the musical selection following the outraged anti-pakalolo tirade? :shrug:
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nomorenomore08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:17 PM
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32. Reminds me of Bill Hicks:
"If you don't think drugs have done good things, then do me a favor, go home tonight, take all your albums, all your tapes, all your CD's, and burn 'em! 'Cause you know what? The musicians who made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years? REAL fuckin' high on drugs!"
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:26 AM
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39. I know, right?
Well, they yammer for hours on end each morning--no music breaks. After the morning show is over I think it's just classic schlock rock for the rest of the day. Not worth my time.

I'm getting the impression that the station/producers of the morning show have recently decided to position this member of the team (the female) as the "conservative voice" a la Blondie Bobblehead on The View. Against my better judgment I turned on that station for a few minutes when I was in the car this morning, and she was screeching about how everybody should be armed and that would solve the crime problem. (Discussion sparked by a local murder/suicide.) The other two personalities were presenting the usual counterarguments--countries like Canada and the UK have a low crime rate and nobody owns guns (she actually said, "Well this is America--it's different here--the Wild West, cowboys and indians." :eyes: ), and what if somebody got up in the middle of the night and blew away an innocent person on the sidewalk, etc. One of them reminded her of all the accidental shootings by hunters who mistake a friend for a deer, and she said, "Well, those people are just stupid."

I turned it off after that.

The funny thing is, she used to be normal. I think they're trying to get ratings by having these polar-opposite arguments every morning. It's not working for me, though--I just find it annoying and headache inducing. I won't be listening again.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:44 PM
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14. "That's just like driving drunk."
Alcohol causes a loss of motor control.

Marijuana does not cause a loss of motor control.

I don't think it impairs driving any more than aspirin or tylenol.
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:50 PM
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19. I agree, for the most part.
Although I have noticed in myself when I get high, that I tend to have slightly slower reflexes.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:37 PM
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23. Hence my caution about driving when stoned.
Redstone
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Hanse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 12:48 AM
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38. When I'm stoned, I'm more relaxed and more cautious.
Both of which are preferable while operating a car.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:34 PM
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21. Oh, sure it doesn't. Hey, I'm a child of the 1950s and 1960s, so I know from drugs.
Redstone
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:55 AM
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42. I disagree 100%. It isn't like driving under the influence of alcohol,
but it definitely isn't like taking an aspirin. It does impair.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:53 PM
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15. I think your arguments would be more persuasive if you wrote "fucking" a few more times
My experience is that driving stoned is way way safer than driving drunk. When you're lubed up, your reactions are dulled & slowed down. That's a roadway disaster waiting to happen. When you're fried, you get paranoid and tend to over-react to potential road hazards. That can still cause problems, of course, but it's better to be high and hit the brakes half a block before the stop sign than juiced up and hit the brakes ten feet into the intersection.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 06:54 PM
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16. lol. i think either is not very good but your post is very funny
:)
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:36 PM
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22. ...And have someone hit you from behind because you braked too soon. Sorry, lame
argument right there.

There's no excuse for driving with ANY impairment. Not matter what you, or any other maryjane apologist may say.

Redstone
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:04 PM
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17. At the very least, he has nothing to apologize for.
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 07:04 PM by Mike 03
Your post belongs in General Discussion, where there are other posts on this topic that are too extreme.

The guy has nothing to apologize for except being young and experimenting. I damn sure did the same thing, and so did my sisters, my best friends in college, my girlfriends, and just about everybody I knew when I was in my early twenties.
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coffeenap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 07:47 PM
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18. I don't fucking care!!!!!!!!
(Hi!)
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:39 PM
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24. Hello back to you, sweets. Hope all is well for you these days.
Redstone
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Giant Robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 08:35 PM
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20. But think of the children! He's a role model to them!
What? After all the posts in the thread and no one made a "Think of the Children" statement I felt like I was obligated to do it. I thought it was a DU rule or something...
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:57 PM
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28. I don't like this "role model" business
Somehow we expect these people to be perfect and then are shocked when they aren't. I think it is a mistake to put anyone on a pedestal. Anyone. Phelps, Obama, Mickey Mouse.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:39 PM
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25. To paraphrase Abe Lincoln when he was told that Gen. Grant drank,
"Find out the name of the bud so I can give it to my other swimmers!" :smoke:
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 09:41 PM
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27. a guy who wins 8 gold medals should tell the world to go fuck itself.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 10:05 PM
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29. Is This A Haiku?
So, Michael Phelps smokes fucking dope.
Why should anyone fucking care?
Because, he doesn't fucking share!


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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:04 PM
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31. Total non-story.
Edited on Mon Feb-02-09 11:05 PM by Withywindle
23-year-old jock smokes weed. STOP THE FUCKING PRESSES, MAAAAN.

Had it with that "role model" shit, too. Hey, Michael Phelps smokes dope. He's still the fastest swimmer in the world! Barack Obama smoked dope. He's the fucking President!

Obviously, it DOESN'T necessarily ruin your life, and any time you try to tell a kid that it does, the kid can see right through that bullshit.

That's why it makes people mad, I guess - makes it just a little bit harder to try to control kids with scare stories.
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Sheets of Easter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:33 PM
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33. Even the World Anti-Doping Agency (!) wouldn't care unless he was in competition.
I agree with everyone; it's a total non-story.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-02-09 11:59 PM
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34. Well, if he hadn't been such a lazy cheetos-munching pothead, he could have
won a bunch of golds in equestrian, pole vaulting, and beach volleyball on top of swimming. Other than that bit of unAmerican treason, I don't see any reason why his habits should interest anyone else...

;)
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 12:19 AM
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36. Nobody should care.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-03-09 11:30 AM
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40. I care about as much as I care about Jessica Simpson's weight
But to be fair, there's really nothing else in the world going on for the media to devote its attention to. :eyes:

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