For the DU ladies. how do you like your "guys"?

[MrScorpio]

Poll question: For the DU ladies. how do you like your "guys"?

[BarenakedLady]

1. All of the above.

:evilgrin:

[LaraMN]

2. Barefoot and pregnant.

Ok, barefoot and cleaning the house in an apron.

:bounce:

[no name no slogan]

3. Surprisingly, Hung Like A Mule isn't doing so well

:shrug:

[Manifestor_of_Light]

18. That is a fallacy, sir.

Let me put this delicately:
I'm a small woman and telephone poles are physically impossible to deal with, not to mention that they are dangerous.

I think the women who would like the generously endowed man, are probably tall, large women.
Just guessing.

[Phillycat]

76. I am neither tall nor large.

Nor large anywhere else, if you get my drift.

But I am definitely a Size Queen. :D

[supernova]

4. Some combo of B, C, and F

That would be just fine with me.

Though, instead of scrapbooking, he'd have to enjoy flea markets, the occasional night at the symphony or ballet, and a restaurant with multi-flatware and glasswawre table service. So he'd better own a suit and tie.

In return, I'd go bowling or to a ball game or two. In good weather. I ain't freezing my ass off in the stadium.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

41. Good thing we don't live in the same town

I think we're looking for the same guy. :-)

[Runcible Spoon]

5. Depends on what I plan to do with em.

:evilgrin:

[Left Is Write]

6. Incredibly smart, honest, and empathetic. A sense of humor doesn't hurt.

[BeachBaby]

7. HONEST. Tall order, I know. eom.

[LeftyMom]

8. My perfect guy would be funny, smart, compassionate, amazing in bed, beautiful eyes, sexy voice,

amazing in bed, 5'11", vegan...

:loveya:

[flvegan]

9. I hope that you someday find that guy.

[LeftyMom]

10. Me too, he sounds like a catch.

BTW, I just noticed I said "amazing in bed" twice. Me and my priorities. :eyes:

[CreekDog]

13. sheesh, get a room

:boring: :rofl:

[LeftyMom]

14. We did!

:evilgrin:

[Forkboy]

92. Well, you had me until "vegan".

Isn't that always the way? ;)

[surrealAmerican]

11. Other. If the guy doesn't have ...

... a sense of humor, any relationship is doomed.

[Angel]

12. Just a regular guy

Not bored by a woman who enjoys staying in more often than going out. To know the simple important things that matter in life..like family ties, music and sex :)

[Missy Vixen]

15. I picked the Cantonese trig in his sleep thing

If he's smart, funny and thoughtful, I'm all over that. Plus, he'd better love football.

[Ohio Joe]

16. For those DU women that like them short and balding...

PM me :D

[Arugula Latte]

17. George Costanza, is that you?

;)

[harmonicon]

19. man, I fail

I wonder how this weekend's meeting is going to turn out. I'm more #3 than anything else, but maybe I'm really just "other" which has even fewer votes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8kj9jLvPq8&feature=related

[Midlodemocrat]

20. Alive. I'm not that picky.

[Kali]

24. ...

:rofl: :thumbsup:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

21. very pretty. thats how i like my boys

[redqueen]

22. Tender and nurturing.

And he must like footie. And have good taste in music and movies. And be sexy. :)

[Starbucks Anarchist]

73. I have good taste in music and movies.

:D

[redqueen]

86. Footy fan?

You have to love the beautiful game, too, remember. :)

[Starbucks Anarchist]

89. I assume you're talking about soccer/football.

Don't watch sports at all, actually. :hide:

[redqueen]

98. Yup!

I loves it... and it being one of my passions... well, I like to be able to share my passions with my special guy. :)

[Starbucks Anarchist]

100. I'll watch a movie about it, but that's as far as it goes.

:P

[redqueen]

101. Hehehehe...

well with you not being a sports fan at all, I'd say that's fair enough. :)

[dynasaw]

23. Medium Rare

with a side of French fires.

[buzzycrumbhunger]

25. Sadly, my criteria are shrinking

I'm not sure if it's more to do with the fact that I'm less picky, I feel I can afford to be less picky, or that I've become such an eccentric old broad that I realize it's going to be damned near impossible to even come close to filling my wish list. Right now, I've got it whittled down to taller than I am (6' and up), smart, funny, and kind (at least to me), with a working penis. Bonus if he can quote Big Lebowski, Firesign, and Monty Python and doesn't mind donning a kilt now and then. Even bigger bonus if he's handy around the house. I'm getting really sick of having to be the man all the time (and really need someone who can help me finish installing the springs on my garage door).

Sadly, men seem fixated on skinny models half their age, but what women find attractive is rarely based on appearance. We're supposed to overlook your paunch, receding hairline, Star Wars obsession, and ear hair, but you think you're too good for a little matronly fluff? Pish.

[redqueen]

26. Oddly, I'm getting even pickier as I get older.

:shrug:

[buzzycrumbhunger]

27. Well, yeah. . .

There are definitely a whole lotta things I'm not willing to put up with, but as far as my ideal man, I think it's the "must haves" that I've realized aren't going to happen.

At this point, I'd just like to have two-person sex again. *sigh*

[redqueen]

32. Aha...

I gave up on ever having two-person sex again years ago... so I'm just fine with it. :P

[yvr girl]

28. How is George Clooney not an option?

Smart, funny, cares about the state of the world, not full of himself, sexiest voice ever, generally yummy.

[GCP]

29. He's got to be able to make me laugh out loud

Been with my husband since 1968 and he can still do it!

[TroglodyteScholar]

30. The women who have voted so far...

...are full of shit.

On edit: Where are the REALISTIC options like "rich" and "arrogant" and "selfish?"

[Missy Vixen]

42. Interesting list you have there

Rich, arrogant and selfish? Uh, no thank you.

[Shakespeare]

43. Wow.

Bitter much?

[redqueen]

48. He expected more of these types to be on DU, maybe?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=8481970&mesg_id=8481970

:rofl:

[TroglodyteScholar]

49. Sure.

Shouldn't I be?

I mean, I guess a guy gets tired of seeing women claim that they like "normal guys" or guys with "a good sense of humor." It's a joke, and if these women aren't lying, they simply aren't in touch with what they're actually after.

On edit: By the way, it's not all just bitterness. I've actually tested my theory. The more I act like a dickhead, the more the ladies are drawn to me. It's pathetic.

[redqueen]

50. And where are you taking your random sampling from?

Bookstores, libraries, political groups, etc?

[TroglodyteScholar]

51. Sorry, I don't recall mentioning a random sampling...

...nor did I claim to be any kind of scientist.

I can only comment based on my own personal experience.

[redqueen]

53. So then I take it you understand my point...

and concede that your little conclusion is bullshit. :)

[TroglodyteScholar]

83. I understand your point...

...and think you are living in fantasy land. What else can I possibly judge reality by except my own personal experience?

BTW, adding smilies to your snarks doesn't make them any more valid or less obnoxious. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[redqueen]

85. You've "experienced" all the women who answered this poll?

REALLY?

:rofl:

[TroglodyteScholar]

91. Thankfully, no!

Really, though, lighten up. My initial comment wasn't intended to spur a flame-war with some strong, enlightened woman with a chip on her shoulder. My gut reaction to this poll's respondents was "oh they're full of shit" until I noticed that some very valid options had been conveniently left out, at which point I edited the post. I'm sorry you've taken this all so personally, and I can only assume that I hit a nerve in you. I promise that wasn't my intent.

On edit: I must point out...there were 53 respondents, and the 3 least innocent-looking options (athletic+dumb, badboy, and indifferent to the woman's needs) got a whopping 3 votes. I'd say this supports the idea that at least some of you are kidding yourselves! Neener neener!

[redqueen]

97. Hah, no chip on my shoulder...

I just won't let a shitty comment like that about the women here at DU slide.

And no, you didn't hit a nerve... it's just that the old "women only like assholes" song and dance is waaaaaay past tired. I'm far from the only woman here who is sick to death of hearing / reading it, and is willing take up an opportunity to school some people now and again. :)

[Shakespeare]

54. Funny. I've always dated normal guys.

When my ex-husband decided to become an abusive alcoholic, I left his sorry ass, pronto.

Your experience doesn't bear out with me, or with any of the women I know.

And to suggest that those of us responding "aren't in touch with what (we're) actually after" is presumptuous and insulting. I'm pretty tuned in to what I want, and by god--I've got it, too.

Most men I've known who complain that women just don't like nice guys are missing the point. We LOVE nice guys. What we do NOT like are whiny, bitter, boring guys--and I'm not saying YOU are (hell, you might be Mr. Wonderful & Perfect), but most self-described nice guys might want to ask themselves why they might not be so appealing to women.

[abq e streeter]

57. sadly, while far from all women are like you describe

more are than would admit to it, or maybe even aren't consciously aware of it. But the sad truth is, every day I see and personally know, countless cases of genuinely nice guys ( and no, not doormats either) who can't get a woman to think of them as anything but friend material, while macho, arrogant jerks can't fight 'em off fast enough. My guess is that this scenario doesn't apply to politically progressive women quite as much as the general population,as they tend to, by the very fact of being progressives, be more "evolved". Which is good ( hopefully) for me in my search because being a conservative or even a middle of the roader, is a deal breaker for me; only interested in hip, aware women. Not that I haven't thought of trying to become more of a , as you so poetically put it, dickhead, in my lonelier moments, but just don't even know how to be one. But I suspect a lot of men, even progressive DU types,if they're being honest, would have to agree with the 'women are turned on by assholes" theory to at least some extent.

[redqueen]

58. "more are than would admit to it, or maybe even aren't consciously aware of it"

Sweet Weeping Jesus!

ANOTHER one!

[abq e streeter]

62. I wish with all my heart my observations and experience didn't lead to that conclusion

And if you noticed, I said that this didn't apply to truly "evolved" women, which by definition generally means progressive women have moved beyond being turned on by jerks. But I'd be willing to bet that if you were able to get an honest answer from even many progressive men, they'd admit that troglodyte and I have a point, one which, again, I wish were not true. And again, I only speak from experience and observation, no empirical data etc whatsoever.

[redqueen]

65. It's completely a glass-half-full / half-empty situation.

Just as you can sit there and say that... women can sit there and say that most men only want tits and ass.

If you prefer to focus on the idiots... well... enjoy, I guess! :hi:

[abq e streeter]

67. Absolutely agree with you

Plenty of ignorant shallow men out there (I like to call them republicans) who'll pass by ten nice women for some "flashy babe". But its not just "focusing on the idiots" either, just noticing throughout my life the disparity between how many women claim to just want a "nice sweet guy" yet end up , by their own choice, (and being aware that in many cases this is an un or subconscious choice), with one macho controlling jerk after another. I think the men going after "tits and ass" are at least more upfront and honest about what they're looking for , not that it makes them any less shallow... Not trying to be involved in a flamewar or whatever its called here; I really meant no more than to have an honest discussion of the points troglodyte brought up .

[redqueen]

68. Well everybody knows that the world is full of stupid people...

but to claim that the women who responded here are full of shit?

No, I don't think such tripe deserves an honest discussion... and I think calling it a 'point' is quite a stretch.



Oh sorry... you were addressing his "you don't know what you want, but I know what you want" point.

Yeah, same deal, sorry. I'm aware that there are some who fit that description, but... context. This ain't the DABA blog.

[abq e streeter]

71. I never claimed any thing about the "women here" except to say

they're much more likely to have their shit together and to NOT fall for abusive jerks. With all due respect, please do not put words in my mouth that I never said or wrote.

[redqueen]

72. I never claimed you said that... I said that was the "point" ...

which you thought warranted discussion:

"if these women aren't lying, they simply aren't in touch with what they're actually after"

Whom do you think he's referring to there?

[buzzycrumbhunger]

70. Criminy

It seems the aptly-named Trodlodyte needs to sample something besides the demographic he claims to disdain. Once we get old enough to lose all those lame expectations society heaps on us, the majority DO like the nice guys. Kindness gets us more than a fat wallet or some lame badass act. I'd prefer a geek or a working stiff who will volunteer to massage my feet or change my oil over some high-maintenance arsehole any day, a socially awkward guy who can talk string theory or thinks a clean flannel shirt is dressing up over a guy who picks a woman as a fashion accessory. Just because the media is always all about rich and pretty doesn't mean the majority of us actually desire that IRL.

Insecurity abounds. What I'm seeing is that there are a whole lot of nice women sitting around bemoaning the fact they can't meet any nice guys and a whole lot of nice guys sitting on their hands because they don't think they stand a chance with the women they find attractive. Quit feeling sorry for yourselves for being stuck in "just a friend" mode and open your mouths, dudes.

[TroglodyteScholar]

94. Hahahah

I love how you start your post with a personal attack and then round it off with the pep-talk for the guys who aren't confident. I particularly like the "once we get old enough" bit...in my experience, the "old enough" you describe tends to be much older than me and only occurs after a few kids and/or failed marriages to assholes.

Plenty of assumptions have been made about me from that single post, and it's very revealing. I assure you that I'm not shy, self-pitying, under-confident, etc. I don't hate women, as redqueen clearly believes from my two-liner. I may be a touch bitter, but show me someone who isn't and I'll show you someone with very low expectations. It was a pretty innocent comment on a poll that was mostly based on the assumption that women only choose their mates for good reasons.

[buzzycrumbhunger]

95. Aw.

Sorry the pep talk got mixed in with the personality assessment; I had seen several guys bemoaning their bad luck with women lately and got my sympathy mixed into the wrong thread. :hi:

[TroglodyteScholar]

96. I like you...

Apology accepted :crazy:

[redqueen]

99. Where the hell did you get that I think you hate women?

:rofl:

Dude...

[TroglodyteScholar]

102. And the award for overuse of :rofl: goes to........................

:evilgrin:

[fizzgig]

52. broad brush much?

jesus christ, the last thing i want is a man who is selfish or arrogant. i've dumped men because they are too selfish and arrogance (not self-confidence) is a HUGE turnoff for me. humility is a must, regardless of whether it's a plutonic or romantic relationship. as far as being rich goes, if he's rich it would be a bonus, but i don't care a whit about money. until i lost my job, i was always the one making more money.

[TroglodyteScholar]

88. And my point...

i've dumped men because they are too selfish

And my point is that loads of women are drawn to such men (even if only initially, like yourself)

[Phillycat]

77. Oh, good, this again.

[SarahB]

31. The ones without the macho bullshit pretense

who don't know how fabulous they are. (And a cute butt.)

[blogslut]

33. I'm a sucker for beautiful hands

and square jawlines.

Other than that, hell, I don't know. I've given up on men. Too much work.

[arcadian]

34. As a tie down in hurricane or gale force winds

Guys should be made of galvanized steel

[JitterbugPerfume]

35. breathing--

at my age that is important ya' know!

[Forkboy]

93. You're so silly.

:hi:

:loveya:

[Shakespeare]

36. I found him already, and hit the boyfriend lottery.

Tall (6'3"), handsome (like, makes your knees buckle handsome), frighteningly smart, well-read, funny, sexy, built (which was a "meh" category before, but damn...it's pretty nice), liberal, good in bed, plays anything with strings (very talented musician), and treats me better than I've ever been treated before.

No, I'm not sharing, and no, I'm not letting him go anytime soon. :loveya:

[Redstone]

39. Jesus, describes me perfectly 18 years ago when Mrs R moved here from California

to live with me.

I've lost some of those characteristics since then because of medical issues, but I'm fortunate that Mrs R has stuck with me even though she misses my lost musicianship very, very much.

That's how you'll know if that love will last: If he loses one or mor of those characteristics you describe, and you still love him, it will be for real.

Redstone

[Shakespeare]

40. Hey, I've seen your pic. Mrs. R is a lucky woman!

And neither of us is perfect, but we each think the other is. :thumbsup:

He's handy in the kitchen, too. I came home tonight to a Tuscan white bean, sausage and kale soup that was almost too beautiful to eat. Good boy.

[ThomCat]

87. Good for you.

And good for him too. :)

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

37. At my age I'd be satisfied if he had a pulse and no recent felony convictions.

[Chemical Bill]

38. The only Cantonese I know is Bok Guey.

I remember a National Lampoon poster, with a nude woman prancing on a beach, saying "I dig guys who do calculus". That's why I learned it.

Bill

[mcctatas]

44. Rich and Terminal?

No, actually, funny and caring and sexy and a little rough around the edges. Goatees and big forearms, graying hair and funny accents. Passionate (kind code word for a little bit of the crazy) and loyal to a fault. It also helps if they are called Paddy ;)

[Manifestor_of_Light]

45. An engineer with musical ability and a personality.

Smart as hell, nice, sweet, kind, warped sense of humor, musical ability, able to fix things(the nice part about engineers). loves to solve household problems and make things functional.

He won my heart when he made a color coded diagram of the breakers in my house and plotted all the light switches and outlets on a floor plan.
:loveya:

Oh and did I mention shorter than six feet?
That's because I'm short and I don't like to feel intimidated by big guys.

I already found him. Five foot eight, gives me speeches about nuclear physics and relativity and the Fitzgerald-Lorenz transformation.

Today's spontaneous lesson was a diagram about asymptotes.

Sometimes goes off on voltage and radio transmitters and why we should develop a rocket using a gamma ray laser for propulsion. And why it was such a tragedy for Congress to stop funding the supercollider they were starting to build in Waxahachie.

I give him speeches about classical music, law and biology.

We wish we had found each other a lot sooner, but we are 9 years apart in age, so it would not have happened when we were young. C'est la vie......





I found the ultimate gift for a mathematician on alibris.com: A first edition in French of Pierre Simon Laplace's Celestial Mechanics. A bargain at a mere $15,000. :D

[SeattleGirl]

46. Other:

I like my guy to be smart, funny, sexy, tender, nasty, and interested in a number of things.

Six-pack abs are NOT on my list.

[trashcanistanista]

47. Democratic n/t

[sister taoist]

55. My man works with his hands and reads Proust for giggles...

Has only a GED edumacation. Smart as hell but not dry and arrogant. Kind.

[fizzgig]

56. book and street smart

fun and silly with a good sense of humor, able to do at least minor repairs around the house or on his car, compassionate, liberal. i think being good in bed goes without saying.

physically speaking, i like guys with big, rough hands and strong, muscular arms.

[redqueen]

59. With a huge cock and a strong back.

;)

Just evening things out... somebody has to. Or maybe not, but I have this obsession with balance.

[fizzgig]

60. both of those are great

:D

[Shakespeare]

63. HAHA.

:yourock:

[redqueen]

64. No no no... I'm changing my answer to... two at a time.

I mean at least WE can actually pleasure two at a time!

:evilgrin:

[Shakespeare]

66. Even better.

Actually, three, if you can stay focused. :evilgrin: :hide:

[RadiationTherapy]

74. If you don't know how a man can please multiple women simultaneously...

[redqueen]

75. Well...

Erm... how do I put this?

I think I should send you a PM. :)

[TieDyedDad]

78. Really

I mean we do have ten fingers...and toes! :evilgrin:

[redqueen]

81. The stuff in the movies is pretend.

I know it's nice to fantasize, but trust me...

[TieDyedDad]

82. check yr pm

:rofl:

[Phillycat]

79. HAHA! Brava!

:rofl:

[TieDyedDad]

80. only one tongue though

thats kind of sad..:(

[Tikki]

61. I'm going with the sharp sense of humor...

smarts and common sense...


Tikki

[Z_I_Peevey]

69. Net worth at least as much as mine, no crazier than me,

Democratic, funny, willing to go away when I want to be alone, open, generous, able to play gin rummy, old hippie type. Cooking skills a plus. Carpentry skills double-plus. Straight. Non-psychopath.

[Lorien]

84. Smart, talented, handsome, funny, compassionate, and LIBERAL

neither rich nor dirt poor. Not arrogant, selfish or abusive (I've know plenty of those). And , although the "bad boy" thing gets old quickly, the "boring guy" syndrome is equally painful. Like the ones who talk about TV, sports, their 401ks and little else that involves an opinion or original thought. If everything he says comes from the TV or talk radio, then it becomes a painful date pretty quickly.


These two are good examples of what so many of us are looking for (and their paychecks are of little to no importance here):

[raptor_rider]

90. I voted regular guy

That is how my husband appears. However behind closed doors, he is the funniest and silliest and oh so damn cute! Guess that is why I married him.

[Stevenmarc]

103. R & T

Rich & Terminal

[Dystopian]

104. Intensity. Integrity. Passion.

A man who doesn't care what others think about him because he knows who he is...feels no need to impress. Not into monetary stuff...just living simply. Knows what's priceless...A man of the earth...a humanitarian....free spirit...rebel.
Someone who would love to read to me....poetry and philosophy.
A skewed sense of humor...quirky....crazed...real.
Music......always living in a song...

The superficial things I like.... jeans, leather, and hair...long hair.
And he shouldn't scream too loudly in bed...when I put my cold feet on him.
oh well....


peace~