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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:14 AM
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Any Lounge Cowboy fans ready to abandon ship?
I was listening to NFL radio this morning, and they had former Dallas fans on. Seems they decided they had enough with the pain and heart ache.:evilgrin: Any Lounger Cowboy fans ready to throw in the towel?
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:15 AM
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1. .
:popcorn:
I doubt the fucking nun will though..:rofl:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 11:32 AM
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19. TZ is still carrying that torch for Romo, though ...
:rofl:

Bake
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:11 PM
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31. STFU Bake!
:grr: now look what you did, I'm having to use my madinmaryland insults on you...
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:16 PM
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35. Oh you know it's true!
Just admit it, and you'll feel so much better, LaShaun.

Bake
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BeachBaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:15 AM
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2. Dude.
Flamewars this early in the day? This should be interesting. :spank:
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:14 PM
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32. What's that avatar?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:24 AM
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3. Those were bitter Eagles fans pretending to be Dallas fans.
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BeachBaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:28 AM
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5. Yo!
Impersonate Cowboys fans? Are you crazy????

We would slam Santa Claus with snowballs, before we'd do something THAT crazy. :hide:
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:37 AM
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9. Roh Roh!
:hide:
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TieDyedDad Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:25 AM
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4. cowboy fans
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 10:26 AM by TieDyedDad
dont know pain...Try being a Bills fan..Better yet...Try being a Everton FC supporter..
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ipfilter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:32 AM
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6. I stopped following them this year.
Too much drama. The NFL passed by JJ the same year he had is face stretched.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:36 AM
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8. I stopped following football years ago.
45-50 minutes of action crammed into 3 hours?

Pass.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:37 AM
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11. DVR or NFL network recasts (which condenses the games down to the action).
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:49 AM
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15. If I missed it, I'd bother.
As it is, throwball's boring for me now that I've discovered the beautiful game.
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:36 AM
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7. No. eom.
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:37 AM
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10. and water is wet!
;)
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:51 AM
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16. I'm surprised that the...
two-headed du'er in the sports forum has not checked in!!

:evilgrin:

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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:40 AM
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12. What does EOM stand for?
Extinction of Mankind?:shrug:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:41 AM
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13. As much as you folks want to believe it, it does not stand for
Extinction of madinmaryland!!

:rofl:

eom=end of message.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:42 AM
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14. Of course not.
I've been a Cowboys fan all my life--not a fairweather fan.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 11:16 AM
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18. Do you think things will get any better, as long as Jerrah is running the team?
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ipfilter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 11:34 AM
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20. JJ is the new Al Davis.
This might improve if he would hire a real GM, stay in his owners box, and do nothing but write checks. However, that's not going to happen. As long as he has complete control and the fans keep showing up he's not going to change a thing.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 11:37 AM
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21. That's very true, it seems JJ's biggest concerns are generating revenue
Edited on Fri Feb-06-09 11:38 AM by NJmaverick
not fielding a winning football team. JJ is differnt than Al Davis in one respect, there was a time when Al knew what he was doing and was quite successful in the league (although now it's clear the game has passed him by), JJ never knew what he was doing. His only success could be attributed to Jimmy Johnson and a really stupid Vikings team (that traded away their franchise for Herschal Walker).
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:39 PM
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38. Jones has done a prety good job overall.
He's just picked shitty coaches the last few years. Phillips needs to GO.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:37 PM
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39. And Romo
This team needs to get serious about finding a franchise quality QB.

Romo has his good moments, but by and large he makes way too many mistakes. 3 turnovers/game just from the QB is too much for any team to overcome.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:52 AM
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17. Absolutely not!
Abandoning the Cowboys is the realm for apostates and heathens only-- to be burned at the stake (actually slow grilled over a mesquite fire) during the half time show of the first game next year, their ashes purified with Barb-B-Q scented incense, and finally dumped into the Trinity river to feed the fish.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 11:44 AM
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22. It's like I always tell my daughter...
It's easy to be a fan when everything is going well. The REAL fans are fans. The ship-jumpers could well learn something from the Green Bay fans!

Go Cowboys!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 11:59 AM
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24. How about them Cardinals? Their fans could teach us all a thing or two.
All eight of them.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:08 PM
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29. I have two cousins that have been season ticket holders since the Cards got to Phoenix
They stayed loyal fans through a lot of crap. Kudos to them!
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:39 PM
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40. Yeah, my in-laws (future ex inlaws, whatever) are big fans, too. My poor FIL
He moved from Saints territory to Cardinals territory, and now back to Saints territory. It's just not his year. Or lifetime.
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:43 PM
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41. Yikes....
Maybe he can pick a nice college team to follow?
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:00 PM
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25. I'll agree with that
My avatar is proof of this!:rofl:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 11:58 AM
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23. Pshh. I followed them when they were 1-15, I'm still on board. They are one
click away from getting it together. What that click is... :shrug:
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:07 PM
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28. The click would be for Jones to sell the team
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 01:50 PM
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42. I think his three Super Bowls prove otherwise. Firing Garret might do it.
Both TO and Romo complained about Garret's lack of an offensive scheme at the end of the season, but for some reason the comic-book media only mentioned TO and went along with their fiction of how TO destroys teams and can't get along with Garret and all that. Jones isn't the problem, except in that he is too loyal to his coaches and hangs on to bad ones too long. Jones likes to find hidden talents, and that is what gave the Cowboys three Super Bowls in four years, and it is what has kept them from winning in the playoffs since then.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:03 PM
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26. As someone who has been a Cowboy fan for over 40 years
Let me put some real perspective on this without all the hyperbole and the bullshit that goes on here when talking about the Cowboys.

There were down times, but the franchise always came back and played in numerous playoff games and superbowls. Even with this incredible drought of playoff frustration, the Cowboys still have been to more superbowls. But that is going to be surpassed by another team soon, and I will tell you why.

Jerry Jones - that simple. It is a purely ego driven thing for him. He has his own television show every week during the season. That's right, every week. He is interviewed about the playing status of players, injuries, etc. He is getting himself involved in every aspect of the team, and that is spelling out a disaster. And it has been a disaster, ever since the firing of Jimmy Johnson.

Jerry Jones is the GM. If you or I had the same track record he has had for the past decade or so, we would have been fired. He is the owner, and he surrounds himself with sycophants. Bill Parcells didn't quite fit the mode of a sycophant, but he still had to deal with Jerry in a lot of the day to day football business. Jerry has no business working in the football operation. Period.

Jones is an excellent entrepreneur. All owners will agree with that. But the man is out of his league when it comes to football operations. It has really showed, especially since the firing of Jimmy Johnson. There was a power struggle there, and after Jimmy left, Jerry was able to do all the things (football wise) he wanted to do. Do you think Jimmy Johnson would have allowed the bullshit HBO show chronicling training camp? Hell no.

Which comes to this - I don't own the Cowboys, but they own a piece of my heart. Jerry Jones came from Arkansas, and essentially he has been involved with the Cowboys a great deal lesser than I have. I have bled, cried, and screamed blue and silver for over 40 years. I have been to games in both the Cotton Bowl and Texas Stadium. I have been in rooms full of relatives watching playoff games and enjoying the camaraderie. Jerry is a business man, and when it is all said and down, it's all about the money. To us die hard fans, it's about winning and being proud of our franchise. It has been a while, let me tell you.

Jerry Jones has cost the Cowboys a place in history. With another year of Jimmy Johnson, the Cowboys would have three peated. Coaches like Mike Shanahan said the Cowboys franchise of the early nineties could have won 4 in a row. But, Jerry gets his feelings hurt one night because Johnson won't invite him to the coaches' table. Jerry is drunk, and very, very stunned. So he calls a group of reporters, and in his drunken state lashes out and says "500 coaches " could coach the Cowboys to a superbowl win. Johnson gets wind of this, and as they say, the rest is history. The incompetent and lax Barry Switzer comes in, and the three peat does not come to be.

I really can't wait for Jerry to pass on. I know that's cold, but the Cowboys will never win, or even get a sniff, of a superbowl while Jerry is running things. His son Stephen is actually well respected around the league, and he doesn't seem to have the huge ego his father has. If Jerry doesn't pass on, then he will need to resign his standing of GM. Then again, there may be a chance. But Jerry has to totally be removed from the football operations.

So there is my spiel. It's long, but you can tell I have followed things around here for a long time. So for all you numerous Cowboy haters, congratulations. As long as Jerry is doing the football thing, you will never see Dallas in the superbowl again.

James
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:10 PM
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30. Going to lots of superbowls but losing is a dubious distinction, just ask the Bills
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:14 PM
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33. This thread was started as some good natured ribbing
from a die hard Giants fan. On a serious note, I feel sorry for teams with really bad owners. It has got to be hard to keep rooting for such teams. As a Giants fan we have had one of the classiest owners in the late Wellington Mara. His sone is now in charge, and how good or bad he will eventually prove to be, has yet to be determined. I find that with the advent of free agency it's much harder to root for a team. Players come and go, to the point that you are left rooting for a uniform or an organization. With that being all that's left, I would imagine it's very hard for fans of the Cowboys, Redskins and Raiders (at least now). Worse yet, the one thing that is special about football is the off season optimism. After all in the off season all fans can dream that their team will be next year's champion. With knowledgeable fans such as yourself, it must be very difficult not to enjoy that fan favorite.

While I may not respect the Cowboys, I respect die hard fans, such as you.

:toast:
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VenusRising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:19 PM
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36. Excellent post!
I partly grew up in Ft. Worth during the early 80's. I remember the reverence shown for The Cowboys and especially Coach Landry. I remember going to see the Cowboys play the St. Louis cardinals. And I always wore my satin Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader jacket everywhere I went.

I've told my husband for as long as we've been together, that I will start watching and cheering for the Boys again when Jones leaves. He has completely ruined the team, imo.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:06 PM
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27. I'll make a deal with all the cowboys fans. I'll keep rooting against them to hold up my end of...
the deal. We're all in this together, through thick and thin.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:16 PM
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34. Hell no.
If I'm out now, I'll never be able to rejoice the day that Jerry Jones turns the team over to his son.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 12:38 PM
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37. Geez, I forget - how did the Cowboys finish out the last game of the 2008 NFL season
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=29778&displayPage=tab_gamecenter&season=2008&week=REG17

And yes, we lost to Arizona in the playoffs but hell we won 2 playoff games more than anyone expected after McNabb was benched by Reid in the middle of the football season
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