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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:23 PM
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Funny thing about Star Trek II
Khan died thinking that he'd won, defeating Kirk and avenging the deaths of his crew and his wife.

So in the end everybody's happy.


Except that kid from Engineering, I guess...
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:26 PM
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1. That kid from engineering can blame Scotty for his death
Scotty decided to bring him to the bridge when he was critically injured instead of taking him to sickbay like a normal person would.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:27 PM
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3. When I saw it in the theater, my friend said the same thing.
We were eleven, so you'd think that a seasoned officer would have been able to figure it out.
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 11:22 PM
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6. He just figured Bones was hangin on the bridge as usual!
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Bill219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 10:49 AM
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10. The kid from engineering...
was Scotty's Nephew
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 10:51 AM
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11. All the more reason to think that Scotty would have hied himself to sick bay
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Bill219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 10:53 AM
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12. he was already dead
Edited on Sat Feb-07-09 10:53 AM by Bill219
this topic has been talked about for years in the Trek community
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 10:56 AM
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13. No not at that point...
The kid asks Kirk a question and then dies.
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Bill219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 11:30 AM
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19. After much discussion fans came to the conclusion
that Scotty knew from the degree of damage to Peter Preston's body that he was a goner. He had remained at his post and suffered fatal injuries. Because he was Scotty's nephew, it lent to Scotty's state of mind at the time. Peter Preston was proud of the Enterprise and called it the finest ship in the fleet. Scotty already knew that Peter was going to die and wanted to bring him to the bridge one last time.

In the expanded for TV broadcast there is this scene

Kirk stands near to Scotty's nephew. Seconds tick by until finally the young midshipman can no longer contain his pride about the state of Engineering and says, "I'm sure you'll find everything is in ship shape, Capt'n". "Oh do you?" Kirk reponds incredulously. "Do you have any idea, midshipman Preston, of the ribbing I get in the officer's mess about the Enterprise, and that it's nothing more than a flying garbage heap?" Stammering, the boy responds, "Oh no sir, the Enterprise is the finest ship in the fleet." At this point Kirk and Scotty have already locked glances and are smiling about their inside joke.

also Peter Preston has a relationship with Lt Saavik which is why she shows emotion when she sees Peter's mutilated body in Scotty's arms

My pet peave had always been...Why did it seem like Scotty was the only one in engineering with an oxygen mask?
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oedura Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 11:18 AM
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17. ...
Edited on Sat Feb-07-09 11:19 AM by oedura
...
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bluesbassman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:26 PM
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2. Well, Chekhov probably wasn't too thrilled about that bug in his brain either.
:puke:
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:27 PM
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4. Nah, he's Russian. They love stuff like that
It's the original earworm!
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 10:28 PM
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5. I suppose he put his point across, though...
and in space movies, extras and minor characters who die usually die a cold, sterile but instantaneous death...
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-09 11:31 PM
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7. They aren't known as "redshirts" for nothing.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 07:10 AM
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8. Kirk is caught with his pants down (figuratively) and is rewarded in later movies as a hero.
At least in terms of being taken off guard by the Reliant, not saving the Genesis device, et al.

Still, he's only human.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 11:00 AM
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15. What do you expect from a "no win" scenerio?
Things could have turned out worse.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 01:47 PM
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23. Good point.
:)
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 09:46 AM
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9. There are lots of funny things in Star Trek II...
...none of them intentional, I think.
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 10:57 AM
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14. OT hijack...
Isn't it weird that Uhura has no memories before the age of 30? Nomad wiped them clean.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 12:22 PM
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20. The ball is bloo-ee
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 11:14 AM
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16. I think it's funny that "Mr." Savik has a hell of a rack. nt
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oedura Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 11:21 AM
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18. The funny thing about Star Trek II was...
...that Khan recognized Chekhov, seeing as how Chekhov wasn't even in the TV series episode that set up the movie.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 12:43 PM
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21. Khan saw Chekhov's 'Employee of the Month' picture on the wall in the staff lounge.
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Tommy_Carcetti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 01:03 PM
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22. Well, Spock did wake up in the next movie with a hell of a hangover.
Kinda sucks for him.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 01:48 PM
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24. Anybody stuck inside of McCoy's head would have to be!
:rofl:
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-07-09 03:38 PM
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25. Nah, the funniest thing is the implication that Kirk is a Great White Whale.
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