A question for any sailors in the audience Re:"Latest Try to Free Ship Grounded at Hawaii Fails"

[Ptah]

How many careers have been curtailed because of this grounding?
Just the captain?
Maybe sonar operator?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=6829389

Latest Try to Free Ship Grounded at Hawaii Fails

Navy fails in latest attempt to free warship that ran aground off Honolulu coast
By HERBERT A. SAMPLE Associated Press Writer
HONOLULU February 8, 2009 (AP)
The Associated Press


The Navy says its third attempt to free a $1 billion warship that ran
aground off the coast of Hawaii has failed.

Tugboats and a salvage ship tried unsuccessfully for four hours early
Sunday to pull the USS Port Royal off a rock and sand shoal. The guided
missile cruiser ran aground Thursday about a half-mile south of the Honolulu airport.

Pacific Fleet spokeswoman Agnes Tauyan says the Navy is reassessing its options.

The Navy had removed fuel, water and some personnel from the
9,600-ton vessel on Saturday in an effort to lighten it.

[dgibby]

1. This is definitely a career ender for the CO.

The captain always goes down with the ship (or aground, in this case). Will probably get shore duty riding a desk until retirement, unless, of course, he/she is a McCain-then all bets are off!

[Ptah]

3. One of the reports I remember reading stated that there was an abundance of Brass onboard.

Is this similar to the sub surfacing under the fishing boat?

[Rabrrrrrr]

2. Morons. They're trying to pull a ship from the earth. They should pull the earth away from the ship.

Excuse me, but that's what NASA is for.

Stupid people.

:eyes:

[Ptah]

4. Rockets away my boys!

[Career Prole]

5. Navigation's in a pickle along with the skipper and the OOD

Whoever was OOD (Officer of the Deck) if the skipper was off the bridge, the skipper (because the skipper always takes a hit for what happens under his command as mentioned up-thread), and definitely those in Navigation who had the watch at the time of the grounding ( unless the ship was put in hazard on the previous watch and it was too late to correct course) because the waters around Hawaii are well charted.
I'm guessing of course, because although I was a sailor I was in the air wing on a carrier and never even visited the bridge. :)

[Ptah]

6. Thanks for the perspective.

:patriot:

Thank you for your service.

[Career Prole]

13. Oh, gosh...you're welcome!

I'm still making my living from what the Navy taught me thirty years ago and raised a family with that living so I guess I can say we're even...but you're certainly welcome just the same!

[sarge43]

10. And of course just before it got ugly some chief said, "Sir,

excuse me sir, but that doesn't look right out there. Sir .......... (under breath), Fuck this shit. I'll be in my bunk."

[Rabrrrrrr]

12. Look, obviously the military has paid a lot of money to train you to drive, so drive this thing

[Career Prole]

14. And I hope he got there!

A skipper more or less won't change a thing, but everyone knows chiefs run the Navy!
:toast:

[sarge43]

16. If nothing else, they know everything that's going down on their

ship and it is their ship. They just let the officers play with it.

[trof]

7. The captain who ran the U.S.S. Enterprise aground did OK.

He made admiral.
He also just spoke to our Ancient Aviators group, and he founded Enterprise Rent A Car.

In 1982, the carrier underwent her 10th WESTPAC deployment. In April 1983, Enterprise ran aground on a sandbar in San Francisco Bay while returning from deployment and remained stuck there for several hours.<10> Ironically, George Takei, who played Mr. Sulu, helmsman of the fictional starship USS Enterprise was aboard at the time.<11> Takei was a special guest of Navy that day. He and several other VIPs were flown out to the ship via helicopter from Naval Air Station Alameda. Even though groundings and collisions are usually career-enders for U.S. warship captains, the captain at the time, Robert J. Kelly, who had already been selected for promotion to commodore, eventually became a four-star admiral and commander in chief of the U.S. Pacific Fleet.<12>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(CVN-65)#1980_to_1989

[Ptah]

8. I love this stuff.

Thanks.

:thumbsup:

[sarge43]

11. Punish the innocent, promotion for the guilty - a grand old tradition n/t

[Career Prole]

15. That dude must have been holding some serious markers!

Day-um!
:wow:

[flvegan]

17. My dad served on that boat.

He spoke of it fondly and often.

[Fire Walk With Me]

9. I say to consider it an opportunity

and reconfigure it into a Chuck E. Cheese's.