Bizarre list of top 25 conservative films - Brazil, Ghostbusters?

[NewJeffCT]

Now, I can see "Red Dawn" and several of the others, but Brazil is about as anti-RW as you can get, I thought? Isn't it a parody of big brother fascism? I haven't seen the movie since the 80s, but that is what I recall? Is my memory that bad?

http://www.comcast.net/slideshow/entertainment-conservativefilms/25/

[Deja Q]

1. Maybe they saw Dan Akroyd and thought "Ah, yes. 'Doctor Detroit'. Great movie, that one..."

:hide:

[leeroysphitz]

2. This list is crap.

LOTR? The Incredibles? Please.

[petronius]

21. They view LOTR as a cautionary tale - duly constituted authority overthrown

by a band of raggedy peasants. Same with Braveheart...

[NewJeffCT]

33. good point, but

also, I believe Tolkien was very conservative, but his beliefs were so conservative, that they were later considered more liberal, which was why LotR was so popular in the 60s and 70s with the left of center crowd

[RoyGBiv]

36. He was more libertarian ...

He was *that* kind of conservative, and he bent toward anarchy in his latter days.

"My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning abolition of control, not whiskered men with bombs) - or to `unconstitutional' monarchy." -- JRR Tolkien.

Many people misread, especially, LotR as various forms of an allegory. As he himself said, this is dangerous and will compel the reader to completely miss the point. The stories are so vast and deep that one can take away from it pretty much anything one wants to. For example, Marxists have used The Hobbit as an allegory that favors Marxism. Others Marxists and socialists have claimed Tolkien's representation of the English countryside shows him to be a fascist.

Generally speaking, in my view, when two groups so totally polar opposites both claim an individual as their ideological partner, I become quite certain they are both wrong.

In any case, Conservatives like Tolkien because one can find conservative (little "c") thought in it. He was a devout Roman Catholic, after all.

[Lavender Brown]

3. Heh... a lot of those movies undermine and poke fun at conservatives

They are so dense.

[alphafemale]

6. They apparently weren't aware of the fact that Stephen Colbert wasn't one of them.

At least not until he was well into that 2006 WH Correspondents Dinner.

:rofl:

[JVS]

4. You'd have to be pretty stupid to view Ghostbusters as how the EPA unleashed an ancient Sumerian God

[Rabrrrrrr]

5. It merely proves how fucking dumb conservatives are. Lord of the Rings as conservative?

Narnia as conservative?

Brazil?

Gran Torrino?

Forrest Gump?

The Incredibles?

Conservatives are dumb as fucking hell.

[TZ]

8. To be fair the Narnia BOOKS

are Christian parables. Even though that was NOT evident in the movie. I wonder how many of these movies the person who put this together actually SAW. For one thing Team America, poked a lot of fun at conservatives.

[Rabrrrrrr]

11. They're Christian parables, but they are not conservative.

[TZ]

14. Yes but remember in these guys world view

Christian=conservative. Plus I think they picked movies that had strong good vs. evil themes and thats how they view the world--no shades of gray.

[Rabrrrrrr]

15. Oh, sure - I totally agree with that.

They just assume that if it's Christian, it must be conservative. No matter how much it isn't, and no matter how much in the history of Christianity is actual liberal.

As to the "good vs. evil" thing you mention, I think you are correct on that one, too. Sadly, the conservatives are too fucking dumb to realize that in the majority of the movies it is THEY who are the side of evil.

[XemaSab]

28. The series as a whole is conservative

It's very Tory/status quo apologist.

[TheMightyFavog]

22. Didn't C.S. Lewis hold socialist political beliefs?

I thought I heard that somewhere.

[DarkTirade]

41. Team America did what those two guys do in all their work...

they bring up a hot-button topic... and make fun of everyone involved in it. Including the people who get bothered on either side of the topic. :P

[Tommy_Carcetti]

19. I think they tried to co-opt "The Incredibles" by claming it repesented Ayn Rand ideology.

Which is dumb as hell, but sadly sort of ruined the movie for me subliminally after hearing it.

[Chan790]

7. I really really want to...

write the NRO an email explaining that as a freelancer in the film industry, I've worked with a great many of the people responsible for these films and 20 of the 25 films they've listed are directly criticisms of conservatism.

Brazil is the funniest one of all as Gilliam's criticism is not of a liberal state but Reaganism carried to an absurdist extreme. Likewise, Gattaca is a criticism of the growing eugenic tendencies of the right...their analysis is made funnier by their citation of Aldous Huxley's Brave New World as Huxley was a critic of the growth of conservative values in religion, religion in the state and a mystical humanist. If they actually understood what Huxley wrote or the massive influence his grandfather, Thomas Henry Huxley, the noted English Biologist known as "Darwin's Bulldog", had upon Aldous...well, it'd be amusing to watch them backpedal.

[fishwax]

9. not quite as bad as their list of 50 conservative rock songs a few years ago, but

has plenty of silliness. With some of them I can see where conservatives could get some satisfaction, but only by employing that lefty technique of reading against the grain. :)

[Radical Activist]

10. Brazil was basically about the Bush administration.

[RoyGBiv]

37. Figuratively, you mean?

Sorta in the way 1984 was about Bush II?

[rug]

12. Where's Dumb and Dumber?

[ghostsofgiants]

13. Nah, Harry and Lloyd are too good-hearted.

:P

[Rabrrrrrr]

17. And they probably think that Idiocracy is a sensitive and warm documentary about conservatism

[cherish44]

16. I'm suprised Napolean Dynamite wasn't on there

I love that movie but it was set in a pretty conservative small town. Plus there was that bigot Principal that was giving Pedro a hard time...

[Rabrrrrrr]

18. It's like Hitler's obsession with Siegfried, as though he (Hitler) never stuck around for the end

when Siegfried dies because of his own hubris, stupidity, and lust for power.

[JTG of the PRB]

20. Team America: World Police?!?!

TEAM AMERICA: WORLD POLICE?!?!

:spray: :rofl:

Oh. My. Gods. You have GOT to be kidding me! Did they even WATCH the movie? :rofl:

[rcrush]

26. Wouldnt surprise me

People think South Park is conservative to. I've seen people on here say that. I just dont get it.

[conturnedpro09]

34. Team America is actually extremely anti-Liberal. Big time.

The evil villians are Kim Jong Il and his companions from the Hollywood Left. Sean Penn and Alec Baldwin are out to kill "the flag waving American, a dying breed." Hans Blix and the U.N. are portrayed as delinquint jackasses. Michael Moore is called outright "a giant socialist weasel" and portrayed as a suicide bomber who destroys Mount Rushmore. Yeah it takes some stiff jabs at the Right, but it's mostly cover for Trey Parker and Matt Stone's admittedly conservative views.

[RoyGBiv]

38. Libertarian/Contrarian views ...

They're not conservatives.

I personally view them more as nihilists, but if one must parse down their "art" to some sort of expression of political ideology, it fits pretty well with libertarianism, which is what at least one of them claims he is.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

46. Tre and Matt = ignorant assholes

who try to stereotype anyone from the left with passion as a hysteric, but give the right pass after pass. It's the theme in about every piece of work they've produced

They told people they shouldn't criticize the Bush White House because we don't have the info they see.

As if two cartoon makers knew stuff retired generals, diplomats and UN officials opposing the war didn't know

[EastTennesseeDem]

23. Movies that should be there:

Forrest Gump, Red Dawn.

Movies that you could make a case could be there:
The Dark Knight, The Incredibles, Juno

Apart from that...seriously.

[XemaSab]

31. Rambo

n/t

[Urban Prairie]

35. The Green Berets??

Any John Wayne or pro-war movie, "Ice Station Zebra" for another example, IMO.

A drama remake of "The Russians Are Coming, The Russians Are Coming" with Tina Fey portraying Sarah Palin, watching Putin rearing his head...LMAO!!

[baldguy]

42. Texas Chainsaw Massacre

White Mischief
Triumph of the Will

[RFKHumphreyObama]

24. Harrumph!

Groundhog Day, the Incredibles, Ghostbusters, Chronicles of Narnia?

I just knew Forrest Gump would be in there

Where's all the wingnutty favorites like "An American Carol" and Fahrenhype 9/11? Don't tell me that they've been deemed of such low quality that they have been shunned by their own audience?

Note to the editors -when compiling these types of lists, please do so when sober.

[Initech]

25. Dark Knight? Really?

[rcrush]

27. I guess cause its "Violent"

Any violent movie and some people will claim it for the conservatives. I've seen people on here call it a right wing movie just cause it has violence in it.

[EastTennesseeDem]

29. Some RW nutjob wrote an essay on it

comparing Batman to Bush, defending the country at the expense of lives and popular opinion. I think Harvey Dent was the equivalent to Democrats, losing all sanity and reason when lives were lost. It was an asinine argument, but Republicans are asinine people.

[rcrush]

30. Gattica?

What?

[XemaSab]

32. Why is "Flight 93" on this list?

:banghead:

[Pushed To The Left]

39. Here's the list with an explanation for each movie:

http://nrd.nationalreview.com/article/?q=YWQ4MDlhMWRkZDQ5YmViMDM1Yzc0MTE3ZTllY2E3MGM=

At the bottom, "Knocked Up" is listed under "25 more conservative movies!"

[baldguy]

40. Just proves that the National Review film critic is insipid & shallow

And understands absolutely nothing about the society he lives in.

[Kat45]

43. They sure like those war movies. I also noticed a couple of weird things,

Actually it's all weird when it comes from their lips, so I guess I should say particularly weird.

In the comment on "Gattica": "the progressive fantasy of a eugenically correct world" HUH?

"The Dark Knight": They compare the hero Batman to W! A double HUH? HUH? on that one.

Their comment explains why they liked "The Lives of Others," but I'd like to comment that it was a really good movie.

I'm also amused that one of their honorable mentions is "Thank You for Smoking" because I wouldn't expect them to "get" that kind of humor.

[Adsos Letter]

44. I actually LIKED Forrest Gump...

go ahead; flame away...

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

45. "Groundhog Day?"

I guess that makes sense when you realize wingnuts have been trying to relive the 1980s over and over 'til they finally get it right.