Most annoying character on Star Trek, TNG?

[XemaSab]

:shrug:

[Darth_Kitten]

1. That little Tribble........

:evilgrin:

who became one of a million. :)

[liberaltrucker]

11. Ahhhhmmm

Tribbles were in the Original Series. Hereafter to be referred to as ST-TOS

:spank:

[Darth_Kitten]

32. oh, TNG.......eh.

:evilgrin:

[Tom Kitten]

2. I'll let someone else nominate Wesley Crusher

and nominate Keiko...mainly because I didn't her cutesy name...save it for the whales! It also seemed like she was mainly just trotted out from time to time to nag at O'Brien about forgetting to stop off at the store and pick up some milk on the way home after work, or some other sort of "domestic strife" silliness...

[petronius]

23. Any sappiness in Keiko (which I do not admit) was more than made up for by

1. Worf having to play midwife in DS9, and
2. Rosalind Chao's overwhelming hotness.

;)

[Tom Kitten]

34. points taken

I didn't really get into DS9 but can see Worf going in that direction (did his son appear on that show? Remember TNG when they dressed up as cowboys on the holodeck and visited "The Ancient West"?

And yes, Rosalind Chao was hot, but so was Ashley Judd, and she was kinda annoying too...Anyone who'd be Wesley's girlfriend would be!

[petronius]

43. Judd certainly blows away my 'hotness excuses lameness' argument

Worf was better developed on DS9 - most characters were. IIRC, Alexander showed up once or twice, but as a teenager with real issues.

The holodeck cowboy episode annoyed me - I kept wanting Yul Brynner (Westworld) to show up... :)

[Orrex]

61. 'A Fistful of Datas' might get my vote for worst episode of the series

It's certainly much worse than any Season 1 or Season 2 episode because they were still getting their shit together. By the time Fistful aired, they really should have known better.


Horrible. Horrible. Horrible.

[petronius]

62. Looking back, the only redeeming feature of that episode that I can remember

is that it had a ship named Biko.

Naming worsts is treacherous territory, because we tend to lock out the truly bad, but another worst episode that comes to mind is Troi falling for that negotiator...

[Orrex]

63. You mean Lloyd Braun? The wormhole buyer?

I have to confess that I would never in a million years have gotten the Biko reference--good spotting!

One other near-cool thing about A Fistful of Datas is the way they refer to the "ancient" west the same way we refer to "ancient" Greece or Persia. Although the American "wild west" is only a few centuries prior to the TNG timeline, the fact that they refer to it as "ancient" suggests that they're describing not simply a span of time but also the scope of events between the TNG present and its "ancient" past.

It's a clever (and possibly unintentional) glimpse of how a future society categorizes its history, especially considering how much broader that history would be, as compared to ours.

[petronius]

66. Given the rest of that episode, I'd be surprised if the "ancient" was any more than

a missed opportunity, a feeble attempt at being cute that inadvertently hinted at something thoughtful. That's always been my problem with TNG: so many episodes skirted near deep interesting topics but stuck with the surface tale - and I'm not sure the writers even recognized that there was underlying potential in the script...

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

53. Trivia point re: Rosalind Chao

She played the young Korean woman (Soon Li? Soon Yee?) Max Klinger married in the final episode of M*A*S*H.

[cloudbase]

Anybody named

Crusher.

[petronius]

and/or anyone named Troi...

Any episode centered around anyone with one of those names was guaranteed to suck.

It's a strange conundrum, however, that if Wesley wasn't such a thorough irritant, we could not have had the glory that was him getting skewered with a bayonet by that weird French monkey-soldier... :shrug:

[Deja Q]

28. A weird "French monkey-soldier" generated by Q, might I add...

:evilgrin:

[petronius]

35. Damn straight! Q may have had his flaws and annoyances, but that

6" of metal poking out of Wesley's chest put him permanently on my list of 'TNG characters who were vital to the series'.

[Kali]

3. that young teenager guy that was always getting killed off

oh I never watched the spin-offs, missed that

[Tom Kitten]

6. you mean the one wearing the red shirt?

Still had them in TNG but usually the higher-ups wore them. I seem to remember more gold shirts getting killed off, like Tasha Yar, but she's the only crew member I seem to recall getting killed off in that series.

[Kali]

13. yeah, I think so

(been a LONG time) wasn't Kirk's shirt gold? McCoy was blue, Spock too, (the rest of the bridge was blue I think) Scotty red

How am I doing?

[Tom Kitten]

16. Pretty good, except

Uhuru wore red also... Sulu and Chekov wore gold, Nurse Chapel I think wore blue. Yeoman Rand wore red but she was written out of the show pretty early...Weird the things one remembers, eh?

[usregimechange]

4. Troy's mother, reminds me of Mudd on the original series

[ogneopasno]

5. Deanna Troi.

[Skittles]

15. oh, hands down

that gal "felt" everything - didn't she ever just KNOW anything?

[Deja Q]

17. No, she only felt Riker... anything she could "empathically" suss out

was figured out by the audience a good minute before that. :evilgrin:

[petronius]

33. Seriously - I don't think she ever made a useful contribution

Picard: Why the fuck has this bastard been firing torpedoes at us for the last hour and a half!?
Troi: I can't be sure, but I sense something, a feeling of, what's the word, it's hard to get exactly, something like, 'hostility'.

:eyes:

[Deja Q]

40. I think there was an episode from season 2 where she did surprise by being useful

The trouble is, I can't remember it and she's more remembered for stating what's pretty darn obvious (and the 4th season episode where she temporarily loses her powers was extremely grating...)

[petronius]

44. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof

:)

I'll need documented evidence of that usefullness before I believe in it.

I'd say the only times she wasn't grating were when she was 1) absent, 2) possessed by an alien (merely annoying then), or 3) regressed into some sort of fish-beast...

[Deja Q]

45. I loved that story, "Genesis"

(Season 7; she's turned into a fish that Worf uses as makeshift sushi and Barclay turns into a hyperactive spider. Well handled and directed and works without being OTT...)

I'm going to have to re-watch season 2 again; my mind draws a blank. It wasn't "Samaritan Snare" (an overall good story despite a couple plot points, which includes the usually dingy Troi)...

[Lost in CT]

75. LOL

Yup that is her character in a nutshell.

[ogneopasno]

82. My favorite episode was the one where she lost the ability to feel. I cheered.

[Orsino]

72. "Captain, I sense hostility from the ship that just fired on us."

:eyes:

[Sequoia]

81. You bet.

She was always being a door matt.

[LeftyMom]

7. Q

[leeroysphitz]

8. Data followed closely by Wesley.

Brent Spiner is a doosh and a horrible,horrible actor.

[Deja Q]

18. Well, nobody's perfect...

:hide:

Actually, for a while, I thought Data was the most human character on the Bridge...

[elshiva]

21. Data was one of the better characters, IMHO.

[tigereye]

84. I thought he did well in a difficult role....

[liberaltrucker]

9. Q

Although in the end, he turned out to be the good guy.

[Orrex]

60. Hey, how about a SPOILER ALERT next time?

:evilgrin:

[Mojambo]

10. Dr. Beverly Crusher. Followed closely by her fuckwit son. n/t

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

12. Wesley Crusher, hands down.

Saw an interview with Wil Wheaton once and was surprised that he seemed like a real nice guy. But the character he played was a douchebag of the first order.

Picking a few points

Keiko is a perfectly ordinary Japanese women's name. I even met a Keiko once.

And don't be dissin' Data. He was the first character on TV to show people what we Asperger's oddballs are like, though inadvertently. :)

And Q simply ruled.

[XemaSab]

22. Wil Wheaton was awesome in

Stand By Me.

Terrific cast of young actors in that film.

[petronius]

38. Indeed - Wil Wheaton deserved far better than to play Wesley

The ultimate evidence to me that the universe is spiteful and unfair is that Jerry O'Connell ended up married to a supermodel while Wil Wheaton is off explaining Wesley's douchebaggery at Star Trek conventions...

(Of course, that unfairness also makes me chortle like a cretin... :))

[elshiva]

24. I like the name Keiko.

[Deja Q]

26. Actually, Spock was the first... but you're right, re: Data

At the time, people thought I was imitating Data. Uh, I got there 15 years before TNG started, so there. :P :D

Data is one of my favorite characters. He and Geordi made a great double-act too. He stole the show in "Generations" with the emotion chip, but after that movie continuity regarding the chip went haywire...

Obviously I loved Q. He seems to be a parody of Doctor Who (even in "Q Who?" (1989) he has a line of dialogue that rips off the Doctor's phrase from that episode of WHO entitled "Paradise Towers" (1987).) A great parody, nonetheless. A bit blunt at times with a sardonic sense of sarcastic humor, he did put the self-righteous Picard in his place once or twice; which in turn helped round Picard's character. Pity Picard later got assimilated by the Borg, but nobody's perfect...

Wil Wheaton seems cool overall; and in the late 80s, having the save-all nerd dork was the norm. But, like Troi, Wesley Crusher helped make the command crew of the Federation Flagship come across like a bunch of dunderheads for the first year or two... Still, there's a season 1 episode where Beverly puts him out with a sedative and Picard, finding out what she did, retorted that he should be awake to face death like everyone else. For season 1, that scene was a high point and not because of an anti-Wesley stance...

[InvisibleTouch]

37. Q is hands-down my favorite character in the series.

I always laughed when the episode previews would say somethiing like, "Next week, the eeeevil Q is back...!" - because it was clear to me from the start that he wasn't "evil," just had a whole different outlook than the Federation's rather narrow viewpoint. Though he may have toyed with and tormented the crew, he was provoking them to grow beyond their limitations. And in the end, he and Picard learned a lot from each other.

One of my favorite Star Trek novels showed him as the older brother to Trelane from TOS. One must admit, the family resemblance is pretty unmistakable.

I met the actor once. In person, he is very much like Q. Highly entertaining on TV; not so terribly agreeable in person. None the less, it was a cool experience.

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

49. Technically correct, Deja Q!

"and that's the best kind of correct!" - The Number One Bureaucrat

When the local independent was stripping ST-TOS every night at 6 back in the early 1970s I watched every night and was amazed to see, for the first time in my life, someone I could identify with and who acted/behaved/thought the way I did. It was a revelation.

But Data was deeper. Spock was perfectly content to embrace his Vulcan heritage in full. Data strove to be more human, sometimes succeeding, sometimes failing, like we Aspies do. The single most touching thing I've ever seen on any television show was the ending of the TNG where Data created a daughter. Guaranteed complete blubbering breakdown every time I see it.

[NJmaverick]

73. +1

[Deja Q]

14. Troi.

She can sense things that no other character can.

Which is unfortunate.

Because the audience figured it out long before she figured it out to tell Picard about it. :D

[friendly_iconoclast]

19. Captain, I'm sensing some hostility from the DUers!

[Deja Q]

27. Yeah. Some of them hate Q.

:P

:rofl:

[Danger Mouse]

20. Troi, no question. At least Westley occasionally did something useful.

[Pryderi]

25. Wesley Crusher and Cmdr. Riker

[GinaMaria]

70. +1 here. Hated Riker and Wesley was just irritating

[InvisibleTouch]

29. Dr. Pulaski.

I absolutely and utterly could not stand her. Glad she only lasted one season!

I never actually found Wesley annoying. While he wasn't my favorite character, I liked seeing a kid portrayed as smart and inventive, rather than a clueless urchin or a cosmically-powered brat.

[petronius]

46. Are you kidding!? I loved Pulaski - and she's one of the few characters I

think I'd have liked in real life.

Most of my favorite moments in and Trek were the few times when we had a glimmer of true scientific uncertainty and curiousity, and Pulaski accounted for a lot of those. I saw her as a real doctor and scientist, unlike Dr. Beverly 'Lets ask the computer then use the little magic buzzing thing' Crusher...

[InvisibleTouch]

56. I just saw her as someone who was needlessly persecuting Data.

Her speciesistic "human is best" arrogance and her contempt for Data because he was an android turned me off completely. Not to mention I'd never have wanted to be the patient of a doctor with her manner.

I think the producers were somewhat trying to duplicate the McCoy vs. Spock dynamic with Pulaski vs. Data, but it didn't work - because while Spock could handily hold his own, Data was a "child" in many respects, and so his "opponent" just came across as a bully. Furthermore, McCoy had a certain irascible charm, which Pulaski, IMO, utterly lacked.

[petronius]

57. Those are very valid points. I tended to look at her views on Data as

addressing the really interesting question of what is sentience/humanity, which was pretty much ignored in Trek (except for that one episode with the trial). We were clearly intended to accept Data as 'human', so Pulaski's intransigence came off as cruelty, but it could have been so much more.

You're 100% correct with the Spock/McCoy parallel, however, and they should have realized that that was irreproducible...

[Deja Q]

79. Ditto.

Fans had a backlash at the time because she was "the McCoy ripoff(tm)". Then came Bashir and, more poignantly, the hologram and that little rat dropping critter from that pointless prequel series...

Crusher had her moments of acting like a doctor/scientist ("True Q", season 6) but more often did the buzzer thing routine and, apart from Troi, was the most boring character. Not "underutilized", but actually "boring". Mind you, in the same story ("True Q"), Q turns her into a barking dog, so maybe she wasn't so boring after all... :evilgrin:

[tigereye]

85. yes, I liked that actress - I liked how "cranky" she was

kind of like the EMH doctor was later on...

[3.14158675309]

67. Correct!

Jesus, she was annoying! I think the original idea was to recreate the Spock/Bones antagonistic relationship with Data-- FAIL!

OMG when she kept calling him Daa-tuh instead of Day-tuh I about wanted to scream! So when Data confronted her about the pronunciation, it was one of the best moments in the entire series!

Pulaski: what's the difference?
Data: one is my name; the other is not.

ZING! :rofl:

[merh]

30. Commander William T. Riker

Riker drove me nuts - I can't stand his character.

and Q was terrific.

[wickerwoman]

54. Yeah Riker.

I hate being told who I'm supposed to find hot. Clearly all the female aliens have a lot of free time on their hands.

Also, I loved Dwight Schultz in the A-Team but can barely watch him as Barkley(?) in TNG. I see where they're going with the character but those are a few really, really painful episodes.

My favorite is Lwaxana Troi.

[BarenakedLady]

31. All you Troi haters are DTM

That's all I'm saying.

[Deja Q]

41. "Dinner To Me"? Cool, I've always wanted to be forked...

:spray:

[edbermac]

36. Worf's son.

I hated that little punk.

[alphafemale]

55. And who ever heard of a Klingon named Alexander?

:rofl:

[Iggo]

39. Number One.

[Deja Q]

42. Especially before the beard, "Number Two" seemed more apropos...

:yoiks:

[OmahaBlueDog]

47. I suppose "the whole concept annoys me" is not one of the acceptable answers?

Actually, I kinda like the Ferengi (Ferengue?)

[FKA MNChimpH8R]

52. The Ferengi are "proof" that there are Repukes

even in the far future. :rofl:

Let's see, the Ferengi are ugly inside and out, morally bankrupt, believe in laissez-faire capitalism, outright thievery, deception and worship greed. Yup, there are Republicans in space.

[Orrex]

48. You're wrong! All of you! Horribly, horribly wrong!

The most annoying character on ST:TNG was Alexander Roshenko.

Anyone who says otherwise has never seen an episode of the series.

[leeroysphitz]

58. I liked Alexander. Reminds me of my own son. Whiny but defiant.

[3.14158675309]

78. He was disgrace to the Klingon race and in a fight to the death

Would lose to my choice, Dr. Pulaski.

[tigereye]

86. yeah, you have a point...

[Ikonoklast]

50. Wesley Crusher is the ONLY correct answer.

He must have got beat up a lot before he went off to Starfleet Academy.





By girls.











:hide:

[WildEyedLiberal]

51. How is Wesley Crusher not the overwhelming consensus?

I also agree with whoever said Dr. Pulaski. Thank God Dr. Crusher came back in the 3rd season. I liked her; her whiny stereotypical child prodigy, not so much.

Worf's kid was annoying, too, but as he wasn't inflicted on us nearly as frequently as Wesley, it's Wes for the win.

[tigereye]

87. I liked the Wesley character and his normalcy and nerdiness..

[Mudoria]

59. All of them really..

I usually think of ST:TNG as Star Trek: The Silly Generation. I thought the whole series was terrible. I liked Deep Space Nine and Enterprise a lot more.

[GinaMaria]

71. Enterprise was awesome. So sad it is off the air n/t

[Pierre.Suave]

64. Wesley

any other answer, other than maybe Deanna Troi's mom, is not correct.

[Deja Q]

80. Without my glasses on, I read your subject line as "Weesley"

:hide:

[Pierre.Suave]

88. Could be I guess.

LOL

[Robeson]

65. Seems to be a consensus growing regarding Wesley...

...I find it hard to disagree.

[Angleae]

68. Kill Wesley Crusher..

Kill Wesley Crusher
Kill Wesley Crusher
Kill Wesley Crusher
:mad::grr::mad:

[RoyGBiv]

69. Gotta go with Wesley ...

When the shows were new, my friend and I had a pool going, hoping for the day he'd be killed off.

Alexander Roshenko was a close second.

[baldguy]

74. Reginald Barclay

[annonymous]

76. Deanna Troi's mother

[jeff30997]

77. Agreed.

What a pain in the ass! When I knew that she would be on the next episode I wasn't sure I could

watch it from beginning to end.Q was always good news.

[tigereye]

83. Reg, I think...

followed by Alexander Roshenko - the anti-Wesley...

[azmouse]

89. Wesley "I'm such a fuck up" Crusher

Followed by closely by Deanna "I'm sensing something" Troi.

[Deja Q]

90. Could be worse.

Troi sensing Crusher feeling her up. :scared:

[Parche]

91. janeway

:grr: :hi:

[Zavulon]

92. Geordi.

The way he overacts when he goes into his explanations if what would happen if he did this or that or how they can get out of this or that is Shatneresque.

Wesley is an obnoxious little pissant, though, and a worthy second choice.

Third place goes to Barclay.