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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:19 PM
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*** Official 2009 Academy Awards Thread 2 ***
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 10:20 PM by charlie and algernon
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:20 PM
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1. Wow!
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 10:23 PM by PBS Poll-435
Another Hyundai commercial...

(Thanks for the new thread!)

:-)
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stewartcolbert08 Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:22 PM
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2. Okay who is?
the black guy w/ the teeth laughing at bill maher??
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:25 PM
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7. He was one of the nominees
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 10:25 PM by bigwillq
for documentary.
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stewartcolbert08 Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:57 PM
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95. I have never seen him before!
Kind of reminds me of little wayne!
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:23 PM
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3. The Tom Cruise/Jimmy Kimmel ad was pretty funny.
Now Hugh's back on.

Hugh....:loveya:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:25 PM
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6. Cruise looked very handsome there! (And I usually can't get past the whacked.)
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:25 PM
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9. Agreed on both counts!
:fistbump:
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:24 PM
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4. I was in the bathroom. Are they talking about editing? nt
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:25 PM
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11. Oh. Action movies. Never mind. nt
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:24 PM
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5. another genre tribute? wtf?
when do we get to the In Memoriam tribute?
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:25 PM
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8. I've been waiting for that. Usually it's on fairly early.
And a lot of really significant contributors to film died this year.

They better not have dropped that segment. It's important.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:26 PM
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12. yeah, i sure hope these genre tributes aren't the new thing
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:25 PM
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10. If Peter Gabriel doesn't get the song Oscar
I will yell really loud.

I'm sure Slumdog will win.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:26 PM
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13. He won't be performing, unfortunately.
They didn't have time for him to do the whole song, apparently.:eyes:
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:27 PM
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16. But Beyonce could get up there and harp for 10 minutes.
They should have let Hugh do it on his own.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:28 PM
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17. I think he was in the right.
It doesn't do any of the songs justice to do these little snippety things. Some of the previous Oscar ceremonies have scattered the songs in their entirety throughout the show. It helps people who haven't heard the songs before get a better grasp of what's out there and make their own decisions about who should have won.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:29 PM
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22. Humph. After Gabriel throwing a hissy fit
because he would "only" get one minute for his performance, and pulling out rather than taking his minute like everybody else, I don't particularly care to see his immaturity rewarded.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:30 PM
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24. He's back in?
I hadn't heard that.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:32 PM
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28. He's not performing.
He's still a nominee.
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Scooter24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:26 PM
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14. Visual Effects...
I predict Benjamin Button!
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:27 PM
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15. Visual effects: Benjamin Button
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:28 PM
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18. so the academy thought a man aging backwards looked more believable
than batman diving off a Hong Kong building? boo!
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:28 PM
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19. and BOOM goes the dynamite
:rofl:
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:33 PM
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31. That was great.
I love Will Smith.
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:29 PM
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20. totally agree about the genre tributes
I don't enjoy rapid fire editing, it emphasizes everything that is wrong with movies. I enjoy seeing what I am supposed to be paying attention to.

As you say, they had better not of dropped the in memoriam.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:29 PM
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21. Sound editing: Dark Knight
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:30 PM
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23. Finally a category Slumdog or Benjamin Button can't steal.
I swear, every year they decide 1 or 2 movies are going to win every single freaking category...
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:31 PM
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25. I have The Dark Knight.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:32 PM
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27. And I missed!
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:31 PM
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26. Sound mixing: Slumdog Millionaire
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:32 PM
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29. Oh for the love of....
It's SOUND! Slumdog isn't THAT great that it even has to win in the SOUND department. WALL-E is totally getting the shaft this year.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:33 PM
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32. It won Best Animated Feature.
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:34 PM
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35. Not enough I say!
Of course it's sci-fi, and sci-fi is usually ignored by the Academy.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:39 PM
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49. It was my favorite film of the last year.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:34 PM
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33. So is Milk, sadly.
:(
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:35 PM
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36. It got Original Screenplay
And I think Sean Penn will win, too.
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:35 PM
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yes , and i am also surprised that
frost nixon hasn't won anything (unless I missed it)
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:38 PM
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47. I like Langella for actor.
But he probably won't win.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:41 PM
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54. This is a HARD year for actor.
You've got Langella, who is one of the lions of the art; you've got Penn, who's, well, Sean Penn (and this was by far the best thing he's done IMO); you've got Rourke, who showed he's still got what he had (although as Tony Danza pointed out there are a lot of people kissing him this year who would have spit on him last year) -- how do you decide? They were all incredible.

Who were the other two? (I'm not being an ass. I honestly don't remember.)
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:37 PM
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42. Milk isn't the kind of film that gets postproduction awards.
Those tend to go to the flashy stuff (unfortunately so do Best Director and Best Picture...... :()
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:39 PM
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48. Tell that to "Good Night and Good Luck"!
Oh wait...

*sigh*
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:42 PM
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56. We'll watch 'em side by side sometime.
It's completely different. It's not about the political statement, really.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:43 PM
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58. Oh, I know. I'm just fondling old resentments.
Kinda like how I'll always hate "A Beautiful Mind" for beating LoTR: Fellowship. I'm totally biased and unreasonable like that. :P
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:45 PM
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62. Oh, hell. On that one they were just waiting for the whole trilogy to be out
before they handed something out.

Which was stupid, ultimately, because the last two were not NEARLY as good as Fellowship.

Says this LOTR nerd. :rofl:
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 03:27 AM
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196. This LOTR nerd says
ROTK, theater edition, had some crappy-ass editing. WTF, PJ cuts out the whole interaction of Eowyn and Faramir in the Houses of Healing for some lingering endless CGI bullshit of Orlando Bloom on a giant elephant? We know you love your monsters, PJ, but this story is about characters, thank you very much. Don't turn into George Lucas on us, kthxbai.

The Extended Edition, collectively, all 12 hours of it, deserves truckloads of Oscars because they did an amazing job of the impossible. But yeah, theater-version wise, ROTK was the weakest of the three (and this is coming from someone who loves the TT movie, except for the fucking endless Helm's Deep battle, which I fast-forward every time until we get to Bernard Hill reciting Tolkien's poetry.)
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 03:18 AM
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194. I can forgive that, I suppose. (WTF, Ron Howard, that hack)
Edited on Mon Feb-23-09 03:20 AM by Withywindle
What I can't forgive is Sir Ian McKellen getting shafted.

Even though he should have won two years before for 'Gods and Monsters,' and I was hoping for him to get his make-up Oscar WHICH HE IS STILL OWED.

He was Gandalf, and that is not, in fact, an easy role. :(
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:40 PM
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53. although it certainly deserved its nomination for editing
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 10:40 PM by fishwax
And I would have liked to see it win that. But slumdog was a deserving winner as well.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:44 PM
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61. The Academy seems to go for flash and jump-cuts
over what makes something a visually complete film. I don't get it, but I'm not an editor.

There are some ACE members on DU. What say you, ACE members? Could you edify us non-editors, a bit?
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:33 PM
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30. F*ck this, let the other movies get the technical awards
the so-called oscar movies can get the acting awards, let the rest fight it out for the technical awards.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:34 PM
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34. What does it say about the Best Picture category
if its postproduction isn't considered topnotch?

Some of this gets confusing to me.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:39 PM
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50. it's because there are some movies who will NEVER be nominated for Best Picture
no matter how great the acting and directing was, (a la the Dark Knight, Iron Man, WALL-E) just because they don't fit the typical Oscar "model" so at least let those movies get the minor awards, give them their due for being great.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:48 PM
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69. So true. nt
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:36 PM
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40. Slumdog Millionaire for technical? Really?
Editing and sound? Meh.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:35 PM
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37. Film editing: Slumdog Millionaire
I wanted Frost/Nixon.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:37 PM
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44. Me too, just not Slumdog.
I didn't think it was a technical wonder.
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:46 PM
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65. Did you see the chase scene through the Mumbai slum?
Incredibly well edited and exciting. There were a few scenes like that in Slumdog, I thought.
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:35 PM
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38. This is bullshit. nt
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:35 PM
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39. Grr
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 10:43 PM by PBS Poll-435
Jeez, I wonder what best picture is going to be...


:eyes:


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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:36 PM
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41. The underdog that is not an underdog.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:37 PM
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43. Tropic Thunder!!?? HAHA.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:38 PM
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46. They must have taken all their profits
and invested them in the Oscar Pimping Fund.

Seriously. Academy Awards are pursued incredibly aggressively. Sometimes it's about who ran the best campaign to convince people to vote, not about what's really the most incredibly artistic/whatever criteria film out there. It's like running for class president with a zillion-dollar budget, in some ways.
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:37 PM
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45. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Everyone was saying SDM was going to win
and lo and behold...it wins. God forbid there be any competition or suspense.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:40 PM
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51. Definitely takes the anticipation out of things. When the presenters start saying all but,
"oh, what'dya know? Slumdog Millionaire wins again," everything loses a bit of excitement.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:40 PM
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52. I'd like to see The Reader or Benjamin Button win.
Fat chance.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:42 PM
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55. The Reader gives me the creeps.
If it had been a man and a young boy, I don't think it would have gotten nominated.
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:46 PM
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64. I don't think Seth Rogan and Judd Aptow liked it either (hope I spelled the
names right), and there may have been hint of a political statement in that short.

I could be wrong, I often am.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:49 PM
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72. I still picked Kate Winslet for Best Actress,
because I think she'll win.
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:56 PM
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91. I absolutely adore Kate
I haven't seen the Reader, but have been reading the articles about the movie, simply because i admire her so much as an actor. I will definitely see the movie.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:44 PM
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60. Exactly
The smart money, at this point, must be on "Acting? What the Hell is That? Millionaire."
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:46 PM
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63. Slumdog was highly overrated.
I haven't seen many of the others but Slumdog was just ok. It was very overrated, imo.
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:46 PM
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66. Honestly, I'd never even heard of it before the lead up to the Oscars...
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:52 PM
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78. self delete
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 10:53 PM by Phoonzang
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:47 PM
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67. It's just a fantasy about poverty, isn't it?
Real poverty isn't uplifting or entertaining. I've been there.
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gblady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:52 PM
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76. I totally agree....
not my cup of tea, for sure.

I'm much more of a Milk or Ben Buttom kind of gal.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:43 PM
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57. That asshole Jerry Lewis
won the humanitarian award?

Tell that to all the people in "menial" jobs who've had to work with him. :puke:
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:43 PM
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59. Tell that to Jerry's Orphans.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:48 PM
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68. A lot of disability advocates don't like the way he infantilizes
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 10:50 PM by leftyclimber
people with disabilities. He raises a lot of money, but at what cost to people's abilities to get jobs, be seen as human beings, little things like that?

Edit: spelling
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:50 PM
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73. OFGS, like anyone else is taking up the slack?? HE is preventing MD sufferers from working??
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 10:54 PM by WinkyDink
Well, when he croaks, they can all feel relief from his oppression.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:02 PM
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109. Some people complain for damned good reasons.
Dignity is not only a province of the normally-abled. My older sister is disabled, in a wheelchair, and she thinks Lewis is an insulting prig who contributes to the view of the disabled as childish and incapable people who should be pitied and coddled like babies for their whole lives, and never treated as equals in our society. But yay for money, 'cause that's all that matters, right? Not actual equality or anything. And that doesn't even get INTO Lewis' gay hate and misogyny.

Some info on what people within the disabled community think of Lewis:

http://www.cripcommentary.com/revisionism.html
http://www.cripcommentary.com/jlquotes.html
http://julian1st.wordpress.com/2009/02/04/jerry-lewisprotests-controversy-over-humanitarian-award-pickets-at-oscar-ceremonies/

“Regarding your blog about Jerry Lewis’ receiving the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award, you and your readers should know that many of us object to it. He frequently calls people with disabilities, whom he supposedly helps, “cripples”. He refers to gay men as “fags” and has said that women are nothing more than baby-making machines. Moreover, his annual telethon exploits kids with disabilities to garner pity as a fundraising tool, despite the constant entreaties of the disability community to stop the pity campaign. It does more harm than good. But Lewis and his organization have refused to work with our community. Instead, Lewis has threatened to have his critics killed. Lewis is no humanitarian and does not deserve this prize. It is an insult to people with disabilities, the gay rights movement and the memory of Jean Hersholt.”


http://thetroublewithjerry.net/

Your shitty tone was unappreciated. This is a REAL issue within the community of the disabled, whether YOU accept it or not.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:48 PM
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70. And what of them, that you know? Because you must not have heard the part of the $2 BILLION his
MDA telethons have raised.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:49 PM
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71. See #68. YMMV. nt
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:51 PM
Response to Reply #71
74. I don't see the connection between complaints of "workers with him" and "infantalizing."
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 10:52 PM by WinkyDink
Seem like disparate groups to me.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:52 PM
Response to Reply #70
77. That he is contributing to stereotypes that prevent such things.
I'm not denying that he's raised a lot of money for research. I'm glad somebody's doing it. I just don't agree with the way he goes about it, because it doesn't help disabled people, who have the lowest employment rate in the country, by promoting the stereotype that disabled people are helpless and incompetent.

He also has a reputation for treating his crew, hotel staff, and so on like crap.

This, however, is a discussion for another forum and probably another time. Let's watch the Oscars. :hi:

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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:51 PM
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75. Button better win for score.
What a wonderful score.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:53 PM
Response to Reply #75
79. I like Wall-E
but I picked Slumdog.
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:53 PM
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80. Come on...at least give WALL-E best soundtrack....assholes. nt
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #80
83. Ok...that's it....I'm going to cut this off....I don't think I can take this anymore.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #80
84. Sorry.
And, to add insult to injury, we have to sit through those Disney kids again!
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:55 PM
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87. The music in Wall-E was great!! Slumdog is just running away with this. They should just hang a
huge banner that says, "Slumdog pwned all of you, no point in staying until the end."
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:54 PM
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81. Shit is rigged
:eyes:
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #81
85. I'm confused.
Did they all vote according to what Meredith Vieira wanted or something? :wtf:
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #85
88. Seriously
AND....


I was just about to say that Regis is pulling the strings of the Oscar puppet!

:P
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:01 PM
Original message
Best original song: Jai Ho/Slumdog Millionaire
Enjoyed the Bollywood dancing. There's some inexplicable joy in the energy and the precision of the movement.

I wanted Peter Gabriel, but for all the wrong reasons (I'm a fan).
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:55 PM
Response to Reply #81
86. For Chrissakes, WallE, Button AND Milk were better.
I may as well not even watch for Best Picture.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:56 PM
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90. You know whats coming
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:57 PM
Response to Reply #86
92. WALL-E's score is gorgeous
this is just getting ridiculous
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #81
89. Gabriel will probably lose song to this as well.
Grripes.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:57 PM
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93. I hope not.
I picked him to win.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:00 PM
Response to Reply #93
103. The songs from slumdog are just like every other bollywood songs
like all country songs and most r&b now. It will probably win.

Argh.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:01 PM
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105. Maybe the two DoucheDog songs will cancel themselves out?
:shrug:
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #93
132. Peter Gabriel and one of the Newman family are not good enough.
This year.

YUCK.
I refused to go see Slumdog after someone on DU pointed out that it has child abuse in it.

:cry:
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:58 PM
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99. Throw someone else a bone at least. Make it a contest.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:02 PM
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110. I've missed 5 now!
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #89
115. He did.
Ooh, categories they can't win. Here they come. :evilgrin:
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:10 PM
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141. Check in!
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IGotAName Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:26 PM
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180. Something is definitely wrong here.
I'm beginning to wonder if it's not something geopolitical with India.

They just gave away the typical "runner-up" Best Picture Award, Best Director, to Slumdog.

The only thing, in my mind, that can save the night now and give some people who deserve it their due is if Milk wins Best Picture and Rourke wins Best Actor.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:28 PM
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183. That's what I am thinking
nt
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:54 PM
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82. Score: Slumdog Millionaire
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:57 PM
Response to Reply #82
94. Who's the girl in the pretty pink dress..? (presenting)
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:57 PM
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97. Alicia Keys
:)
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stewartcolbert08 Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #94
98. Are you talking about
Alicia Keys? She is beautiful!
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:58 PM
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100. She looks so grown-up and polished
Gorgeous!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:58 PM
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101. Yes she is:)
and her dress is perfect:)
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:57 PM
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96. My official "FUCK YOU OSCARS" COmment for not nominating Bruce Springsteen.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:03 PM
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116. agreed
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #96
120. agree! What was up with that?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:05 PM
Response to Reply #120
127. Well obviously that wouldnt have fit into their cheesy musical number!
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:04 PM
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121. Seeing as Slumdog had a lock since day one, why the hell didn't they at least give him a nod?
Did they really need to nominate TWO songs from Millionaire?
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:04 PM
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125. agreed.
they made the Peter Gabriel song that was nominated sound just like the 2 Slumdog Millionaire numbers. They used the same drum players, very little change in the two other SDM numbers. I don't get why Bruce Springsteen's 'Wrestler' song wasn't at least nominated? And why can 2 songs from the same movie be nominated for Best Song? Seems like one song per movie should be the norm.
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IGotAName Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:26 PM
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181. I know. nt
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 10:59 PM
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102. Another fucking boring production number!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:01 PM
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106. again, I agree
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:03 PM
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118. They just don't translate to television.
At least not the way the Oscars do them. I don't know why they persist in doing them.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #118
140. Heck, that first "the musical is back" conglomeration
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 11:10 PM by merh
didn't even utilize some of the best numbers available from musicals.

And like you say, they don't translate to television - reminds me of the movie "A Chorus Line" *shudder*

eta: Jackman wants the musical to return (as if it ever left) so that he can make more - the action films can be very trying on the body.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:01 PM
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104. I hope slumdog wins for best song
:evilgrin:
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #104
111. It's all your fault!
:D
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #111
119. I'd be happy to take responsibility for that
:)
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:03 PM
Response to Reply #104
117. This should be called, "The Slumdog Millionaire Talent and PR Commercial" not the Academy Awards.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #117
124. Right on.
My only conciliation is that Douchedog is absent from the best acting categories.
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:06 PM
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130. I'm glad it won.
It perfectly captures the energy of the film.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:01 PM
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107. WTF
:banghead:
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AbbeyRoad Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:04 PM
Response to Reply #107
122. I concur. WTF
This is pathetic. Just declare Slumdog the winner of all categories and put this show out of its misery.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #107
142. Check in!
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:01 PM
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108. Bull ass poopy shit crap.
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:02 PM
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112. Yeah well, I don't LOVE your stupid movie. nt
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:02 PM
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113. Come on, throw something else a bone!
For God's sake!
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:02 PM
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114. OK the production number for the 3 songs totally sucked and so did the song
I haven't seen Wall-E or Slumdog Millionaire, but surely there was better music than that in the movies this year.

Bollywood production numbers should really be left to Bollywood.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:06 PM
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128. I agree that the production number sucked, but
I thought the music in Slumdog Millionaire was great, and I'm glad it won for both score and song. I think Bruce Springsteen should have been nominated for song, though.
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Scooter24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:04 PM
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123. "Jai Ho" is an amazing song
and deserved it's Oscar win!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:04 PM
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126. Someone answer me this question about Slumdog Millionaire...
how can this be the movie to beat for Best Movie and yet it did not get one acting nomination. I'm not sure if I'm saying that perhaps some of the actors were overlooked or question why Buttons or Milk aren't stronger candidates for Best Movie
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:08 PM
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134. They show the characters in Slumdog
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 11:09 PM by bigwillq
at three different ages.

Only Dev Patel (the main male character) was in it long enough to really have any chance at a nomination. He was pretty good in it but he was not nominated.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #126
137. remember when the third Lord of the Rings movie won every single thing it
was nominated for, but NO actors were nominated.

I thought it was very strange no actors were nominated for that movie with so many excellent performers.
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #126
154. For what it's worth, it did land best ensemble acting...
at the Screen Actors Guild. After it won that, I really thought it had a chance here at the Oscars. I think no one in particular stood out enough to get a Oscar nomination, though maybe Dev Patel had a chance. I love the film but think its strength was the whole group of actors, young and older.
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:06 PM
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129. "All my life I've had a choice between love and hate... I chose love." A R Rahman
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 11:06 PM by Zuiderelle
... for Best Song for Slumdog Millionaire. Beautiful.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:07 PM
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131. Best Foreign Language Film: Departures (Japan)
Haven't seen it. Anyone?
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #131
136. Me neither.
I've missed 6. I had The Class.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:07 PM
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133. Presenters should act like it's Being John Malkovich. "Slumdog, slumdog slumdog slumdog. Slum Dog."
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:08 PM
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135. can we go to a Thread #3?
this one is getting pretty long...
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:13 PM
Response to Reply #135
150. I'm down with it.
Should you start it, or should I (or someone else)? I don't want to end up with 8 million dupes.....
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:08 PM
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138. WHERE IS THE IN MEMORIAM TRIBUTE?
I realize it's only 8 PM on the west coast, but for all the streamlining they've claimed, this whole thing seems to be dragging out rather badly. Their pacing started out so quick and snappy, and now it's just falling apart.
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #138
143. This is it with Queen Latifah. n/t.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #138
144. now?
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #138
147. Oh. Good. They heard me.
:rofl:
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:12 PM
Response to Reply #138
148. Heath gets the most applause, I bet.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #148
152. Id guess Paul Newman
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:16 PM
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160. I didn't even see Heath. Was he in it?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:18 PM
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170. No, he wasnt.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:14 PM
Response to Reply #148
153. I would have liked more for Paul Scofield and Stan Winston.
:(
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:23 PM
Response to Reply #153
177. Yeah, Paul Scofield, not like he was a master at his craft or anything.
:eyes:

I was thinking the same about Scofield, there should have been more applause.
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 01:26 AM
Response to Reply #177
191. Yeah, that Paul Scofield. What a hack.
:sarcasm:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #148
158. I think they showed Heath last year.
Since he died just before the Oscars in 2008.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #158
164. I remember now. I'm getting old!
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:16 PM
Response to Reply #148
159. Did they not include him? I didn't see him.
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Genevieve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:17 PM
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165. They did not. nt
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:18 PM
Response to Reply #159
172. No.
I believe they honored him last year since he died in Jan., right before the Oscars in 2008.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 03:20 AM
Response to Reply #148
195. No Anita Page?
She was the last living attendee of the first Oscars and shared top billing in "The Broadway Melody," the second film to win Best Picture.
She was leading lady to Clark Gable, Lon Chaney and Buster Keaton.

God, I hate the Academy! History is lost on them.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:08 PM
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139. Anyone know what Will Smith's pendent meant?
It looked like some kind of cross...
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:11 PM
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145. Oh my god she is beautiful
Long live the Queen!
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lifesbeautifulmagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:11 PM
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146. get ready for tears
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:15 PM
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156. Paul Newman
:cry:
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:20 PM
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174. yep I teared up over that one too nt
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:13 PM
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149. This is nice. Retrospective of people who have died.
Queen Latifah has a nice singing voice and she looks gorgeous.
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:13 PM
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151. I always found this kind of distasteful....
How some people get no applause and some get a standing ovation.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:16 PM
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157. It is kind of like a graduation ceremony
nt
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:16 PM
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161. Was Heath Ledger not listed? or did they show him while the camera was zoomed out?
Edited on Sun Feb-22-09 11:17 PM by charlie and algernon
oops, posted in the wrong spot
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:17 PM
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163. I didn't see him... nt
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:20 PM
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175. that's f*cked up
a best supporting actor winner who dies doesn't get mentioned in the In Memoriam?? :wtf:

I also didn't see George Carlin.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:24 PM
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179. You're right about Carlin.
But they honored Heath at last year's ceremony. He died in Jan. 2008, right before last year's Oscars.
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charlie and algernon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:29 PM
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184. ah, i stand corrected then
i forgot exactly when he died.
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:23 PM
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176. Did he die just before last year's oscars?
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:24 PM
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178. Yes.
They showed him last year.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:15 PM
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155. Why are they doing it this way? it's almost impossible to see the names
They should have it full screen.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:17 PM
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162. Really? I had no trouble.
I like the one they do on TCM at the end of the year.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:17 PM
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166. i agree -- that's one of many production elements that have been off tonight
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:18 PM
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169. Attempting to be *modern,* i presume.
That was shite.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:18 PM
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173. yeah it's like they forgot that not EVERYONE has a 48 inch TV!
I had a hard time seeing a lot of it and it was infuriating that they panned out for so many of them.

poor camera work
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:18 PM
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171. I agree
I saw the names, but to me, the tradition for any obit stuff is full screen...
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:17 PM
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167. ****Lets move to part 3 for the "big 4"****
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leftyclimber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:17 PM
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168. Part 3 here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x8546536

Please move on over so those of us on dialup don't have a 7-hour delay updating. Thanks! :hi:
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nytemare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:27 PM
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182. In a suprise move, Slumdog wins Best Actor and Actress!
In fields where it garnered no nominations.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:30 PM
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185. There are way too many ugly people in the audience
They should make sure they're not sitting behind anyone nominated at the least. It was bad enough that Sarah Jessica Parker was sitting behind Marrissa Tormei but they actually put her on stage. What were they thinking!?
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stewartcolbert08 Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:58 PM
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189. LMAO
and did you get a load of the tan lines on Goldie Hawn?
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stewartcolbert08 Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:31 PM
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186. Okay Sophia Loren
looks awful!
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Scooter24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:33 PM
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187. I agree...
My god that face!
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stewartcolbert08 Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-09 11:37 PM
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188. Almost creepy! Poor thing.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 12:03 AM
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190. Perhaps, but she has acting chops.
That should be important.....but no, a woman always has to be picked apart.

Seems to me Mickey Rourke wasn't picked apart......
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stewartcolbert08 Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 01:52 AM
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193. no no! He should have shampooed his hair!
LOL I am an equal opportunity insulter!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-23-09 01:46 AM
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192. she looked embalmed
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