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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:50 AM
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How were Supertramp ever popular?!
I remember when "Breakfast in America" came out. I bet every track on that album got airplay, and I know several charted.

Also, "Crime of the Century". :wtf: Crime of the Century...Aptly titled.

And "Even in the Quietest Moments"... :wtf: Here's what it should have been: Quiet.

:wtf: What a bunch of pretentious hacks! I mean, I know it was the seventies, but, again, :wtf: !!
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:53 AM
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1. Everyone's entitled to their opinion....
n/t
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:57 AM
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3. Actually, I don't entirely hate "Quietest Moments"...
But Breakfast in America...yeesh! And The one which came after that one...I forget what it was called, but it had a guy on a tightrope on the cover...that one was TERRIBLE!
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 02:05 AM
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6. I was 10 when "Breakfast In America" came out
and the singles from that album are one of the major reasons why I became a fanatic of progressive rock a few years later, along with Yes' "90125". As for the album Supertramp did after "Breakfast In America", that would have been "Famous Last Words...." (released in 1982), and while I agree it was quite lackluster compared to earlier efforts, it was that way because the band had pretty much ceased to function as a whole during the recording process and were well on their way to breaking up (lots of friction between co-writers Davies and Hodgson).

If it wasn't for the "prog-pop" stuff that was so popular during the late '70s and early '80s it might have taken me much longer to discover the REALLY good stuff that never gets any airplay. There will always be a place in my heart for Supertramp, both because of the sentimental value and because, IMO, they were a very good band.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:55 AM
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2. I love Supertramp
Crime of the Century is beatiful. Fool's Overture was their best.

Hey, they're not Styx.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 01:59 AM
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4. Styx, on the other hand, I don't mind at all.
Serpent is Rising, Grand Illusion and Pieces of Eight rocked when I was in Grade Seven!

But they share a common trait with Supertramp...they got progressively worse as time went by. Maybe that's what the "Progressive" in "Progressive Rock" means ;)
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 02:38 AM
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11. Serpent is Rising...
I'll bet I'm the only person on the planet who still possesses a cassette of that one. Krakatoa!!!
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 02:41 AM
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12. YOU'VE CHANGED YOUR WAYS, FROM EVIL DAYS!
Edited on Tue Mar-09-04 02:45 AM by CanuckAmok
Oh, I know what stormy isle, and GENTLE SMILE...
When the dust and lava cooled, you were sterile as the rock from which the earth was tooled...

...Was man's beginning a wind-borne spore, to fly no more?

...Seeds were wafted in the wind, forming heavy undergrowth for creatures winged and finned...

...GROW AN ISLAND IN THE SUN, WHERE THE HELLFIRE BELCHING EARTH HAD DESTRUCTIVELY LEFT NONE!!!


Oh, yeah, baby!

on edit: and then Handel's Messiah. Why not?
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:09 AM
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29. Man, that's impressive!
I never could make out all the stuff he was yelling there. Frick! I gotta put that on the stereo!
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:11 AM
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30. Heh!
That's from memory...I probably haven't hear that in 20+ years...and I might be waa-a-a-a-y off!
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I AM SPARTACUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 02:03 AM
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5. the explanation of Supertramp's popularity...
...there were these drugs available at the time. Drugs that worked really really well - so well that people did 'em all and now there's none left for people today.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 06:18 AM
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18. Ah, the same theory
Edited on Tue Mar-09-04 06:18 AM by NoPasaran
that explains Country Joe and the Fish.
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I AM SPARTACUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 07:03 AM
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19. And it's one, two, three,What are we fighting for ?
Yeah, come on all of you, big strong men,
Uncle Sam needs your help again.
He's got himself in a terrible jam
Way down yonder in Vietnam
So put down your books and pick up a gun,
We're gonna have a whole lotta fun.

And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die.

http://www.countryjoe.com/game.htm#cheer
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:07 PM
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32. Feel like I'm gonna die rag aside
I challenge you to listen to a CJ & F LP with smoking at least half a bag of Mexican Commercial :smoke:

Feel like I'm gonna :puke:
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AngryYoungMan Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 02:21 AM
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7. Those are THREE GREAT RECORDS!
You have to listen to them in the right frame of mind.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 02:24 AM
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8. "Stoned"? Is it "stoned"? Did you mean "stoned"?
Is that what you meant by "right frame of mind"; "stoned"?

;)
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AngryYoungMan Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 02:30 AM
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9. I did not mean that.
Edited on Tue Mar-09-04 02:30 AM by AngryYoungMan
I just meant, somewhere in that murky 70s vibe partially inhabited by Pink Floyd (overblown concept albums) and partially by Fleetwood Mac (grandiose pop) is the area where Supertramp reigned.

On edit: if you're stoned
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 02:32 AM
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10. LOL!
n/t
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HydroAddict Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 02:47 AM
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13. Ah Man...
Yes I've always got to be,
Living in a fantasy,
It's you for you and me for me,
From now on.


Damn, I love that tune, much more than any Styx.
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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 02:53 AM
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14. The Tramp man
You want pretentious hacks? Try Styx, try Journey, try Cheap Trick.
Supertramp was super duper clean the seeds out of the weed in the fold of their double album BONG MUSIC MAN! " Take a Jumbo 'cross the ocean, breakfast in America" God I miss Pot... and God help me, the '70's!
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 03:00 AM
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15. Welcome to DU, Hippie!
:toast: :donut:
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Itchinjim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 03:26 AM
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17. the tramp
Geez, ya had to be there, everthing about the seventies was pretentious. I mean we had what? ABBA? the BEE GEES? Frigin DISCO?! And you're bitching about Supertramp?!Supertramp was a great group and just around the corner was The Flock of Seagulls, et. al. and the eighties. Ah the eighties, the decade were I finally got laid and had to stop smoking weed. Darned wife. Frigin' kids. I can still drink though as this post proves. The TRAMP!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 09:59 AM
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24. Cheap Trick? Bite Your KEYBOARD!
Those first 3-4 albums were power-pop oases in a sea of bloated, pompous AOR crap.
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Sufi Marmot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 03:02 AM
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16. Those are fighting words...
I have a soft spot in my heart for Supertramp, as they were the first band I was really into, circa junior high school. Yeah, they didn't age well, like most mainstream 70's music, but for the mid/late-70's pre-punk era they were unusually politically and socially aware. Their lyrics weren't very profound, but some of their songs are pop classics ("Take the Long Way Home", "Bloody Well Right", etc.)

-SM
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 08:22 AM
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20. Hey, man, don't be dissin' Supertramp
Compare Supertramp to your most popular groups today:

1) Their lyrics were often very philosophical (yeah, well, maybe a little bombastic SOMETIMES, but they still made sense).

2) They could actually play their fucking instruments. What a concept that is, huh?

3) They produced well-crafted tunes that actually had hooks and that stayed in your mind for days. That's also a concept that, for the most part, is a thing of the past.



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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 10:52 AM
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28. It's great cover art, I'll give them that.
And for bonus points, the waitress' name...can you remember what it is?
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 04:25 PM
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35. LIBBY
I know this because I have I friend named that, and I'm always reminded of that cover!
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 08:24 AM
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21. Forgive him, Father, for he etc, etc... (nt)
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 08:47 AM
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22. Drugs and foolishness.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 09:51 AM
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23. Hey! I like Supertramp. Plus BiA had the best album cover.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 11:15 AM
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31. I like BIA, and agree about the cover
I also like old Styx and Kansas, too.
That music is so nice compared to Marshall Mathers rants about killing his wife and sodomizing his mother.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 10:01 AM
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25. Ugh! I'm so ashamed to have BiA
in my vinyl library. x( I don't know what I was thinking.

They sound like the Bee Gees trying to do metal. :P
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 10:07 AM
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26. You don't have to be a genius to make popular music.
I love Breakfast in America. I just like the sound. Sometimes I feel like listening to something deep and meaningful; other times I just want ear candy, and Supertramp fills the bill!
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 10:09 AM
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27. Their first several albums were great.
Breakfast in America was mediocre to say the least. After that, they blew. I saw them live and they were excellent.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:15 PM
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33. The Logical Song makes it all worthwhile
plus, Take The Long Way Home!
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-09-04 12:22 PM
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34. good question...never understood that one. guy's voice just bugs me.
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